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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 11, 1986 G r '\ V lJ CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-AGENDA SEPTEMBER 11, 1986 Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes 1. Comm. #8-86-3 2. Comm. #7-86-3 3 . Comm. #8-86-2 4 . Comm. #8-86-4 5 . Comm. #8-86-5 6. Comm. #8-86-6 7. COffifll. iI9 86 1 0 8 . Comm. #9-86-2 9 . Comm. #7-86-5 10. Comm. #6-86-13 11. Comm. #7-86-6 12. Adjournment Good Value Homes Rezoning Public Hearing Hidden Creek East Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Andover Community Shopping Center Replat Public Hearing T.P. James Company Amended Special Use Permit Public Hearing T.P. James Company Variance Watt's Garden Acres Rezoning Public Hearing IIil13 of Dunker Lake Oketch rlall Raphiel Stifter Lot Split Ordinance 8, Section 6.02, Cont. Transient Merchant Ordinance, Cant. Commercial Pole Buildings, Cant. *PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MEETING IS ON THURSDAY RATHER THAN TUESDAY. , -\ V l~ , '\ \...J :~ CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES SEPTEMBER 11, 1986 The Regularly Scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, September 11, 1986 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel; Vistad Bosell; Jovanovich; Rogers; Pirkl Assistant City Engineer Todd Haas; Roger Nelson; Charlie James; David Solomen; others Chairman Jacobson asked that the following items be continued to the next meeting: Ordinance 8, Section 6.02, Transient Merchant Ordinance and Commercial Pole Buildings. GOOD VALUE HOMES REZONING PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #8-86-3) Roqer Nelson, Consultinq Enqineer for Good Value Homes - the parcel they are interested in developing consists of 80 acres of which 60 are presently zoned General Business. They are seeking to rezone that area to R-4. The property just south of this in Coon Rapids is being .r'\ developed as low density residential. There is also a proposal for one ~ of the parcels to the east of this to be rezoned to R-4. The proposed use for the Good Value property is for 160 lots of single family residential. Chairman Jacobson noted that the present zoning would not allow for construction of residential housing. He asked if Good Value Homes has title to the property. Don Hardle, Good Value Homes - stated that they have title. At this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Roqer Streich, 135th and Hanson Boulevard - asked for someone to show him on a map where this property is located. Don Boekke, 13414 Jay Street N.W. - asked if this rezoning would take care of everything up to the junkyards. Mr. Jacobson noted that it would. Pat Heidelberqer, 15955 Niqhtinqale Street N.W. - asked if there is a possibility of opposing this rezoning. Mr. Jacobson noted that anyone has the right to ask questions or voice opposition. C) Mrs. Heidelberqer - stated that she is opposed to this because it will hurt the people who are zoned commercial or industrial. You're going to end up with an area where you can't have a lot of small businesses. A lot of people will lose their jobs. \.. .J Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 (Good Value Homes Rezoning, Cont.) \.. ) , / Bob Pears, 11511 Flintwood Street N.W., Coon Rapids - asked if Mom's Auto Salvage and the tire property are excluded from this rezoning. Mr. Jacobson stated yes, everything south of that is being considered for rezoning. Mrs. Heidelberger aslced how the people who buy the houses are going to feel about the tire place and the junkyards. Mr. Jacobson noted that when they buy their homes they will be aware of what's there. Commissioner Vistad noted that the application says that they want the property rezoned to R-l and asked if it shouldn't be R-4. Mr. Jacobson noted that it should be R-4 and the application form should be corrected. He also noted that we just lost the M-l and M-2 area along Bunker Lake Boulevard and the Limited Business north of Bunker will be coming in for a rezoning. If you take a look at the zoning map, if all of these are granted we will be limiting the indus- trial type land in the city. The only other property zoned industrial is Hugh's Industrial Park. , / Mrs. Mardaus, 13350 Hanson Boulevard N.W. - asked if ther~ will be businesses mixed in with the houses. Mr. Jacobson said no. Mrs. Mardaus stated that she is in favor of the rezoning. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning requested by Good Value Homes for the property described as the east 60 acres of the South one-half of the Southwest one-quarter of Section 34, Township 32, Range 24, for the following reasons: 1) The land, although it is presently indicated as industrial, is better suited for this type of development at this time; 2) It would not increase traffic in a significant manner to create additional hazards; 3) It would not seriously depreciate surrounding property values; 4) It is in harmony with the intent and purpose of the Comprehensive Plan and the Zoning Ordinance for orderly planning. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was only one person against the rezoning. The only other person who spoke was in favor. Motion carried on a 2 yes, 0 no vote. This will go to the City Council on October 7, 1986. ) HIDDEN CREEK EAST PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #7-86-3) Roqer Nelson, representing Good Value Homes - stated that they are proposing 162 single family lots for a density of 2.15 lots per acre. There are three active park areas as well as drainage areas. .1 , / / \._j Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (Hidden Creek East, Cont.) '\ "--J Mr. Nelson also noted that on the west side of the Hidden Creek plat, Good Value dedicated a roadway from its southerly boundary up to Bunker Lake Boulevard. No lots will be fronting on that street (Verdin). Also, adjacent to Coon Rapids, there is a collector street (133rd Avenue) and they were required to continue that over to the county road. They will not front lots on that road either. To the north there is an industrial area and they are backing lots up to that property to separate the residential as far away as possible from that property. One-third of this property is heavily wooded and the balance is open. They have taken advantage of the natural topography and put in active parks. The parks will have walkway systems where required. The lots will be 80' wide: however, generally they are oversized. In the area of the tires, the lots are 250 feet deep and considerably more as we move to the east. Mr. Nelson also noted that they will be providing drainage easements in several low areas throughout the plat and planning around those areas rather than filling those in. Chairman Jacobson asked who will own Outlot A. it a DNR protected wetland. It will be left in The plat will have some water draining into it. Mr. Nelson stated that its natural state. Mr. Jacobson also noted that Verdin Street does not enough right of way: it's 20' short. Mr. Nelson stated that the county is aware of the right of way and seemed agreeable to it. Mr. Jacobson requested that a letter be obtained from the county stating that they would accept 100 feet. At this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Marty Mardaus, 13350 Hanson Boulevard - asked if the width of the lots is 90 or 95 feet. Commissioner Apel noted that it is 80 feet. Don Boekke - asked what the minimum lot size will be for this area. Mr. Jacobson stated that it is 11,400 square feet with a minimum width of 80 feet and a minimum depth of 130 feet. Mrs. Mardaus, 13350 Hanson Boulevard - didn't feel that there is enough park space. Mr. Jacobson noted that the Planning Commission really doesn't have much to say about the parks. The Park Commission decides on what kind of parks we will have. Chairman Jacobson noted the following items that need to be done on this plat: the source of water and the sewage disposal system needs to be put on the plat: there should be a typical lot shown on the plat. Mr. Jacobson questioned the design of l33rd Avenue as our section has 15 foot shoulders and Coon Rapids' has 18 foot shoulders. He felt that if this is going to be built with MSA funds, the state specifi- cations must be met. Mr. Nelson noted that the street has already been designed. Mr. Jacobson also noted that the areas that will be filled need to be shown as shaded. 134th Lane to the east should have a temporary turn Regular Planning'Lornmission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 (Hidden Creek East, Cont.) , ) around for maintenance purposes. Good Value should also make sure that the DNR approves the draining of water into the wetland. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to continue this item to the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously. ANDOVER COMMUNITY SHOPPING CENTER REPLAT (COMM. #8-86-2) David Solomon, Boisclair Corporation - stated that they will end up with four parcels. Parcel is is now vacant but which will have a fast food restaurant; Parcel 2 is the existing Phase I; Parcel 3 is the proposed location of the future shopping center; and Parcel 4 is for the St. Anthony State Bank. Chairman Jacobson noted that they still have a lot on the East side of Quay Street. Wayne Anderson, Rademacher & Associates - noted that lot will be Lot 1, Block 4. At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Allen Koenig, Ramsey - stated that he owns some property adjoining this and asked to see a copy of the plat. David Solomon noted that Parcel 2 is omitted from the Tax Increment Financing District but Lot 1 is not. Don Boekke asked why copies of this were not mailed out to the people who were notified of the hearing. Mr. Jacobson noted that it would be too costly. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Apel to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the replat of the Andover Community Shopping Center for the following reasons: 1) It will not adversely affecting the existing or potential use of adjacent land; 2) It is in conformance with the Comparhensive Plan; 3) the commission feels it will not adversely affect any Tax Increment Financing plans for the existing property; 4) The drainage will not be adversely affected; 5) it is necessary to the reasonable use of the land. A public hearing was held and there was no opposition. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on October 7, 1986. T.F. JAMES COMPANY AMENDED SPECIAL USE PERMIT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. # / 8-86-4) Charlie James, owner - noted that the property involved is located \ ; , ~J J Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 (T.J. James Amended Special Use Permit, Cont.) at the intersection of Crosstown and Bunker and contains a facility (the Speedy Market) which is leased. They have a proposal to renovate, upgrade and expand the facility. There will be an addition to the building, gas pumps and a canopy. Mr. James presented some pictures of a Speedy Market in Brooklyn Park that is the same as this one will be when constructed. Commissioner Apel noted that on the original special use permit we had to grant some variances because of the lot size. Chairman Jacobson noted that the request is also for 3 gas dispensers with 6 hoses. At this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Marty Mardaus - stated that there appears to be some difficulty within the ordinance as they had a variance going in and now they want to expand it. He asked how they are going to come up with the rest of the room for the addition. He also asked what this is going to do with the traffic. Mr. Jacobson noted that the traffic patterns in this area will be changing within the next two years because of the relocation of Crooked Lake Boulevard. Mr. Mardaus asked if they are increasing the fuel storage. Mr. Jacobson said no. Todd Haas - noted that the type of fenc is not indicated on the plan. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vis tad to close the public hearing. Motion carried. Commissioner Vistad asked what they feel the additional traffic flow will be when this is completed. Mr. James noted that it is difficult to answer this. It is hoped that the people who get videos will also get gas and groceries. With all of the activity going on on Round Lake Boulevard they feel their operation is having a hard time being competitive. The Speedy Market feels that their layout is outdated. Mr. James also noted that when this originally was brought to the city, the site plan for the future addition met with the city ordinances. The city would, however, retain control over the phases. J It was noted that the parcel owned by the James Company is only one acre and Mr. James was asked if any attempt had been made to buy the other parcel from Mr. Menkveld. Mr. James stated that they did not consider buying that parcel. They were concerned with enhancing the overall appearance of their own parcel. He also noted that the fence will probably be chain link. \ ! ~ / Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 6 (T.J. James Amended Special Use Permit, Cont.) MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Amended Special Use Permit requested by the T.F. James Company for the property described as PIN 33 32 24 13 0008 to allow for expansion of self-service gas pumps from 2 to 3, to move the pumps closer to the building and to allow for a canopy. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was some opposition. Reasons for approval include: 1) It will not cause traffic congestion or hazards; 2) It will not depreciate surrounding property values; 3) It will be be detrimental to the health, safety or general wel- fare of the community; 4) It is in harmony with the general purpose and intent of the zoning ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan. Discussion: Chairman Jacobson noted that if was voting, he would vote no because they are developing the use on a substandard lot. Vote on motion: Yes - Apel, Vistad; No - none. Motion carried. This will go to the City Council on October 7, 1986. T.F. JAMES COMPANY VARIANCE (COMM. #8-86-5) , / Chairman Jacobson noted that the variance is to have the parking 10 feet from the road rather than 20 feet. He suggested that the handicapped spots be moved up to the building. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a variance requested by the T.F. James Company to vary from the 20' setback requirement for parking stalls on the property known as PIN 33 32 24 13 0008 for the following reason: 1) It will not adversely affect the existing or potential use of adjacent land; 2) It is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 3) It is necessary to the reasonable use of the land. Approval is contingent on the handicapped parking being provided in front of the proposed addition and also that the green area along Bunker Lake Boulevard and Crosstown Bouelvard be landscaped and if necessary, a curb be provided to prevent cars from slipping into the traffic area. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on October 7, 1986. Recess 9:25 - Reconvene 9:30 P.M. WATT'S GARDEN ACRES REZONING PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #8-86-6) Chairman Jacobson noted that Council initiated this rezoning. He then opened the public hearing. / Gerry Weqener, 13425 Jay Street - stated that he owns Lot 11 and he doesn't know if commercial or residential zoning would be better. i , 1 1 '\) .. . Regu ar P annlny Commlsslon Meetlng September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 7 (Watt's Garden Acres Rezoning, Cont.) '\ '--j Charlie Mistelske - felt that his property is more valuable as industrial than as residential. Don Boekke, 13414 Jay Street N.W. - asked when this property was rezoned to General Industrial. The secretary noted that the southern part of the city was rezoned in 1980. Mr. Jacobson explained that if there is anyone who does not want their property rezoned, they can ask that their name be taken off the petition. Mr. Mardaus - asked if the new school had been approved for Hanson and Bunker. Mr. Jacobson stated it has not; there are several sites the school district is looking at. Mr. Mardaus - stated that looking at the development going on in that area, they are being surrounded by residential property. Across Hanson Boulevard there is a county park where they are proposing a landfill. Pat Heidelberger - asked if the main reason for the rezoning is the assessments. If a person looks at the prices that are being paid for land, they would be a lot better off selling their property as residential. , Chairman Jacobson asked if the people still want their properties rezoned. Don Boekke - asked what they would have to do to get the property rezoned back to industrial if they go for the rezoning to residential. Mr. Jacboson stated that it would be extremely hard. Commissioner vistad felt that the people are having a hard time deciding if their property should be residential because of the proposed assessments. Chairman Jacobson stated that this should be continued to the next meeting and that city staff should prepare a list showing what the assessments will be. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to continue this item to the next meeting. Motion carried. RAPHIEL STIFTER LOT SPLIT (COMM. #9-86-2) Dan Christensen - stated that Mr. Stifter would like to split a 87 foot wide strip of property from his lot and then Mr. Christensen would like to join that strip with his 4~ acre lot. Mr. Jacobson asked Mr. Christensen his reason for wanting that strip of property. Mr. Christensen stated that there is a pond ~ ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 11, 1986 - Minutes Page 8 (R. Stifter Lot Split, Cont.) \ ~ J on that parcel that he would like to have. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the lot split requested by Raphiel Stifter for the property known as PIN 12 32 24 14 0003 to split an 87 foot strip of property from said lot and attach it to Lot 1, Block 1, Birchwood Pond, owned by Dan Christensen. This lot split varies from Ordinance 4GB in that it does not create two standard lots. It creates a substandard lot. Approval is contingent upon the 87' strip being attached to Lot 1, Block 1, Birchwood Pond, making a standard lot of record. Approval is also contingent upon the payment of park dedication fees. It should also be noted that the county is acquiring right of way for County Road 18 and the legal description should reflect that right of way. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on October 7, 1986. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to adjourn. Carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~u Vicki Volk Commission Secretary