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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN 80ULEVARD N.w, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
AGENDA
ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
March 6, 1986
l. Call to order 7:30
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Tournament Fee Schedule
4. Rosella Sonsteby (parks)
5. Good Ridge Acres (preliminary plat)
6. Grant Information
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9. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w, . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
AGENDA
ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
March 6, 1986
I. Call to order 7:30
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Tournament Fee Schedule
4. Rosella Sonsteby (parks)
5. Good Ridge Acres (preliminary plat)
6. Grant Information
7. A (7;1 - fA./CL-i~:.y _7yS ~--?~~
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9. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
MEMORANDUM
TO:
COPIES TO:
FROM:
DATE:
REFERENCE:
Mayor and City Council
City Administrator and City Clerk
Park and Recreation Commission
Milrr.h h. 1 q86
Hidden Creek Preliminary Plat
The following motion was made at the March 6, 1986 meeting
of the Park and Recreation Commission for your consideration:
MOTION: by Sabel, seconded by STrootman to accept 8.6 acres
as shown on preliminary plat with approximately 1/2 acres
given from lot 30, block 5 for a total of approximately 9 acres
with the remaining 1.9 acres to be given as cash in lieu of land
at the time of the final plat approval. It is understood that:
I. The developer will grade and seed the two parcels.
2. The developer will berm the north edge of the park
along Bunker Lake Blvd. (This berm will be
approximately 3' to 4' high).
3. The developer will install a post-cable fence along
Bunker Lake Blvd.
4. The developer will install two 20' walkways to the
park area to include grading and seeding of the two
walkvlaYs.
5. If the County denies access off Bunker Lake Blvd.,
the developer will give lotI, block 2 as park area.
Items I through 4 upon City Engineer's approval.
Motion carried with 3 yes votes and one no vote.
McMullen stated the he was opposed based on the fact that he
has never been in favor of this park area and the he preferred
2 neighborhood parks and money, due to future maintenance costs
etc.
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CITY of ANDOVER
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
March 6, 1986
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation
Commission was called to order by Chairman Kinkade at 7:30 p.m.
at Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W., Andover, MN.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
Kinkade, McMullen, Strootman, Sabel
LeFebvre
John Peterson, Good Value Homes
Merlyn Prochniak, Andover Athletic Assoc.
Frank Stone, Public Works Supervisor
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ammend motion on Page 2 of 2/20/86 minutes under Scheduling of
Fields to read to include District #ll, Fritz Anderson to use
field #l on Thursday.
MOTION by Sabel, seconded by Strootman to approve the minutes
of February 20, 1986 as ammended. Motion carried unanimously.
HIDDEN CREEK PRELIMINARY PLAT
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Mr. John Peterson stated that this plat was formed with the input
of the Andover City Council, Andover Park Board, Andover Planning
and Zoning Commission, Anoka County Highway Department, DNR, TKDA,
City of Coon Rapids and the Coon Creek Watershed District. He stated
that is impossible to please every agency for every concern. He
stated the the Developer is usually accused of offering lowland and
swampland for park and in this case the area for park is high, dry
and sandy land with no trees to be used for ballfields. In response
to the Park Board's previous requests, this appeared to be the
only land on this parcel that met with the criteria. He stated
that it was presented to the City Council and they liked it and
the Planning and Zoning Commission understood the plans. He stated
the Park Board did not like the plans because they would prefer
scattered neighborhood parks. He stated after evaluation of
all parties concerned, they then presented their preliminary
plat. Mr. Peterson then referred to the memo from the Park
Commission regarding the requests for this park and he stated
that he felt it was unreasonable to expect all that to be done.
He stated that in this case they would give land, berm along
Bunker Lake Blvd., grade, seed and put a post-cable fence
along Bunker Lake Blvd. - not as credit but would be giving
these things. He stated that this would far exceed anything
any other developer has done. He then presented a drawing
showing a possiblilty of layouts for ballfields and small
soccer fields mentioning that it is up to the City as far
as use for the land. This drawing was only showing suggestions
for use of the area. He also asked that the Commission note
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that the distance of the ballfields from Bunker Lake Blvd. is
212'. Kinkade asked when the work would be completed in the
park? Mr. Peterson stated that, for Phase I which includes
the park area, it would appear to be reasonable to expect
that the work would be completed by Fall of 1986. He stated
that the grading would be done as soon as the frost is gone.
Kinkade then referred to the memorandum stating the items
of concern. He also referred to a statement from the November
5, 1985 City Council Meeting which indicated that the Council
agreed that the Park Board has authority to designate where
parkland is desired: and they should be making that decision
based on the preliminary plat, not the sketch plan. The Commission
then went over the memo to the Andover Review Committee which
stated the reasons they did not want the park where it is
situated and what they would like to have done if the park
were to be there. Kinkade asked Mr. Peterson to consider
what they could give to the City in the southern part of
the development for a small tot lot. Also it was discussed
as to lot I, Block 2 to be used for parking and Mr. Peterson
stated that he was willing to give that lot for that reason.
Strootman stated that he would prefer to see less land and
more money for development of a park. Strootman also asked
what enforcement the City has with a developer as far as
getting the work done? Mr. Peterson stated that the City
has the authority to not issue certificates of occupancy
or to hold building permits etc. and he also stated that
the developer puts 15% in cash escrow. Merlyn Prochniak
stated that he wanted to note that it costs $600 per acre
to maintain a park which has to be included in the park
budget. He stated that with the park situation the way
it is, he didn't know how this would be possible. He
also stated that he felt that there should be a separate
entrance and exit to the park area and that for safety reasons
he felt strongly that the speed limit on Bunker Lake Blvd.
should be 30 mph. Merlyn was making these comments as
a concerned resident of Andover. Sabel then mentioned that
grant monies would be more readily available in the future
for graded, seeded parks in a residential sewered and water
area. Another matter of concern was discussed regarding
access onto Bunker Lake Blvd. and as to whether the County
would grant that. Mr. Peterson stated that if the County
would not grant that request, he would give lot I, Block
2 for use as parking.
MOTION: by Sabel, seconded by Strootman to accept 8.6 acres
as shown on preliminary plat with approximately 1/2 acres given
from lot 30, block 5 for a total of approximately 9 acres with
the remaining 1.9 acres to be given as cash in lieu of land
at the time of the final plat approval. It is understood that:
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I. The developer will grade and:seed the two parcels.
2. The developer will berm the north edge of the park
along Bunker Lake Blvd. (This berm will be approximately
3' to 4' high.)
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3. The developer will install a post-cable fence along
Bunker Lake Blvd.
4. The developer will install two 20' walkways to the
park area to include grading and seeding of the two
walkways.
5. If the County denies access off Bunker Lake Blvd.,
the developer will give lot I, block 2 as park area.
Items I through 4 upon City Engineer's approval.
Motion carried with 3 yes votes and one no vote.
McMullen stated that he was opposed based on the fact that he
has never been in favor of this park area and that he preferred
2 neighborhood parks and money,due to future maintenance costs
etc.
MOTION: by Sabel, seconded by Strootman to request that the
City Attorney inform us in writing in regard to the issue of
allowing park land once accepted as such to be allowed for use
for a fire station. It is the Park Commission's understanding
that it would then have to be designated as an outlot; eg: Woodland
Terrace, pumphouse. The Commission requests an answer from the
attorney by March 20, 1986. The secretary stated she would send
a letter to the Attorney,with copies to the City Council and City
Engineer.
GOOD RIDGE ACRES
This item was tabled to the March 20, 1986 meeting.
WATERING SYSTEM FOR CITY HALL PARK
Merlyn Prochniak presented information regarding the watering
system installation at the City Hall Site on behalf of the
Andover Athletic Association. He presented a bid from Eide
Plumbing and also made reference to the bid from last year
from Toro. Prochniak stated that the Andover Athletic Association
will be doing all the labor for the system. Prochniak stated that
he would like to get bids and get started with this project by
the Spring of 1986. The Commission questioned warranty of a
system if only the parts are purchased with the labor done
by someone else. It was also noted that there is money allocated
in the 1986 budget for this system. In summary it was decided
to get bids from other companies, verify warranty coverage and
date of delivery. The Commission would like this information
to be able to be presented to the City Council at the first
meeting in April.
MOTION: by McMullen, seconded by Sabel to request that the City
Engineer review plans and solicit quotes from other~companies
based on similar plans for early May 1986 installation date with
labor donated by the Andover Athletic Association. Motion
carried unanimously.
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GRANT INFORMATION
Sabel stated that she has been accumulating information regarding
grants and more information will be coming to the City offices
via mail. She stated that the City could acquire planks for
a boat landing from the State free of charge. The PRC stated
that would be a process to take into consideration: however, they
wanted a memo sent to the City Council stating that the Commission
has plans to make Round Lake Boat Landing (acquired from Creekridge
plat) as a public boat landing in the hopes that the City Council
will have no objection to this plan. A copy of that memo will
also be sent to the city Attorney.
It was decided to pursue matching funds for the Rum River South
canoe access. It was noted that $5,750 has been allocated in
the 1986 budget for that area. Sabel stated that she will
get plans and further discussion will be at a later date.
TREE CUTTING PERMIT
It was brought to the attention of the Park Commission that
Ron Roden would like to cut down some dead trees in the
Rum River South Park. Mr. Stone stated that he would meet
with Mr. Roden and mark the trees to be cut down.
MOTION: by McMullen, seconded by Sabel to approve cutting
of trees in Rum River South Park with Frank Stone's approval.
Motion carried unanimously.
PARK MAINTENANCE
Frank Stone stated that he wanted the Commission to be aware
of the fact that he has only one man to work the parks along
with some CETA or JETA help this summer. He stated that along
with the City Hall Site, there are II additional park areas that
will need maintenance this summer. He stated that it would take
one man 16 hours to maintain the City Hall site alone. He said
that with this kind of problem, the park mowing will be done
one park at a time with the summer school program (8 parks)
taking priority. The Commission agreed to work along with
Mr. Stone in setting up a matrix plan in order to assess this
problem and try to arrange some kind of solution for this problem.
TOURNAMENT APPLICATION FORM
MOTION: by McMullen to
(attached) as written.
unanimously.
accept the Tournament Application Form
Motion seconded by Strootman and carried
MOTION: by McMullen, seconded by Sabel that the fees collected
by the tournaments be used in the park maintenance fund. Motion
carried unanimously.
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Lola Linaqulst, Secretary