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Home My WebLink AboutJanuary 13, 1987 . \ ,-_J ~~J ~~) u o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 13, 1987 - AGENDA 1. Call to order - 7:30 P.M. 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Sonney Lowell Lot Split 4 . Commercial Building Ordinance Public Hearing 5. Ordinance 8 Amendment Public Hearing 6. Lot Split Ordinance Amendment 7. Adjournment o u ,- '\ '--) CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 13, 1987 - MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Apel at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, January 13, 1987 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Jovanovich, Rogers, Jacobson, Vistad Pirkl, Bosell Sonney Lowell; others APPROVAL OF MINUTES - DECEMBER 23, 1986 Page 2, regarding the Ham Lake Winter Festival, should say that the Commission asked that Mr. Jacobson represent them at the Ham Lake Planning Commission meeting. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Vistad to approve the minutes of December 23, 1986 as amended. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present (Rogers) vote. SONNEY LOWELL LOT SPLIT " \ ~ Sonney Lowell, 13990 Flora Street N.W. - stated that he would like to split his 2.3 acre lot. The parcel with the house on it would be 1.75 acres and the other lot would be 20,814 square feet. He noted that he has had it surveyed and neiV legal descrip~ions written. Commissioner Rogers asked if there would be a problem because he only has 70 feet of frontage. Mr. Lowell stated that it is actually 89.49 feet because the legal description goes to the center of the road. The surveyor felt that there would be enough frontage on the remaining lot. Commissioner Vistad stated that if the lot fronts on l4lst, it doesn't meet the 100 foot frontage requirement. Parcel A only has 13,102 square feet. Commmissioner Jacobson agreed with Mr. Vistad, stating that it doesn't meet the criteria for an R-3 district. It was noted that this property has two sewer stubs. Chairman Apel stated that if you went by the strictest interpretation of the ordinance, this is a substandard lot. Whether you can grant a lot split with variances is something the commission needs to decide. If we take the position that the description goes to the center of the road, it would meet the lot width requirement. / " ~~ Commissioner Jacobson stated that the average lot depth would be 124 feet. Commissioner Rogers felt that if we go to the center of the road, it Regular Planning~ )mmission Meeting January 13, 1987 ~ Page 2 (S. Lowell Lot Split, Cont.) \j \ would meet the lot width requirement. J Commissioner Vistad stated that if you go to the definition of lot line, this does not meet the requirements as the definition does not say that you go to the center of the road. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jacobson that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council disapproval of the lot split requested by Sonney and Patti Lowell for the property at 13990 Flora Street N.W. for the following reasons: 1) A hardship is not created by the shape of the land; 2) it will adversely affect the existing use of adjacent land; 3) the lots do not meet the require- ments for an R-3 District, front yard setback and rear yard setback; 4) this lot split would create a butt lot. ~mendment to motion that the Commmission finds under Ordinance 40 criteria that lot splits should not be approved if the lots do not meet the requirements. Ordinance 8 definitions indicate that the lots do not meet the requirements for lot width and lot depth. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on February 3, 1987. COMMERCIAL BUILDING ORDINANCE PUBLIC HEARING Chairman Apel opened the public hearing. J Commissioner Jacobson stated that the original intent was to regulate the buildings so we don't end up with all kinds of metal buildings. He felt that on the second page, the section regarding outside storage should maybe not be in this ordinance. Also, the section dealing with semi-trailers should be taken out. Commissioner Jovanovich disagreed with Mr. Jacobson regarding having those two sections taken out. Mr. Jacobson noted that Ordinance 8 already has two sections, 4.31 and 8.01 which deal with outside storage. Chairman Apel felt that the section dealing with non-conforming uses and structures should be left in. Mr. Jacobson suggested that under Section II, Building Construction Standards, Subsection A, the first sentence should read: 'All buildings, except by Special Use Permit, shall be constructed.....' Also, the last sentence of that paragraph should be deleted. Commissioner Vistad stated that if you allow pole buildings to be built, you are setting a precedent. Chairman Apel noted that Menard's uses pole buildings for storage. ; Mr. Rogers stated that on a main thoroughfare he would like to see some type of facia on the front of the buildings. Chairman Apel noted that the concensus of the Commission is to take Regular January Page 3 (Commercial , . \ I . , Plann~ng'~Jmm~ss~on 13, 1987 Meeting \,J Building Ord., Cont.) Section III, Other General Requirements, out of this ordinance. Mr. Jacobson suggested that those items go into Ordinance 8. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jacobson to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Rogers that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of an ordinance known as "An Ordinance Relating to Commercial Building Construction and Setting Forth Standards and Regulations Within the City of Andover", with the following changes to the draft: 1) Section III, Other General Requirements, will be deleted; 2) Section II, Building Construction Standards, Subsection A, the last sentence will be deleted. Also in Section II, the first sentence will read 'All Buildings, except by Special Use Permit, shall be constructed....' The Commission recommends adoption of this ordinance for the reasons set forth in Section I, Statement of Legislative Purpose and intent. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no public input. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on February 3, 1987. ORDINANCE 8 AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARING '\ Chairman Apel opened the public hearing. Commissioner Rogers asked how the number 500 waste tires came about. Chairman Apel noted that it came from proposed state legislation. Commissioner Jacobson stated that under FFFFF, the definition says 50 waste tires and he would question that, noting that 500 would be a better number. It was noted that the definition came from the State statute. Chairman Apel stated that the ordinance does not affect someone until they have 501 waste tires. Mr. Jacobosn didn't feel that this should be just for the General Industrial districts, it should be for any commercial district. Harold Jellison, Anoka Auto Wreckinq - stated that there are times when he has more than 500 tires but he does not save tires. Mr. Apel noted that some of those would not be waste tires because he can resell them. Bob Pears, Bob's Auto Parts - asked who this ordinance is aimed at. Mr. Jacobson explained that it was originally because of Lou's Tire Town. It was suggested that Section 5.03 (B) 4 should read "Waste Tire collection and processing shall be permitted by Special Use Permit only, in a GI district, subject to the following". () Regular Planning Commission Meeting January 13, 1987 Page 4 (Ord. 8 Amendment, Cont.) u r \ , / MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of an amendment to Ordinance 8 as presented. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and two people were present. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on February 3, 1987. Lom SPLIT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - Commissioner Jacobson felt that the amendment as presented is as the Commission discussed. MOTION by Jovanovich, seconded by Jacobson that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of Ordinance 40E as presented. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on February 3, 1987. MOTION by Rogers, secconded by Vistad to adjourn. Motion carried. r \ , ~J Meeting adjourned at 9:20 P.M. Respectfully submitted, U'{~ Vicki Volk Commission Secretary , \ )