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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 24, 1987 r~, " \ '-..J /~ "- 1 <-1 " \ o 7:30 P.M. u (j CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-AGENDA MARCH 24, 1987 I. Call to order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. John Fields Lot Split, Cont. 4. 1\1 rarCL.t 'rvY6..J--':"u..u\...t: 5. Randy Pederson Variance 6. Colonial Creek Sketch Plan 7. Rum River Ranch Estates Preliminary Plat, Cont. 8. Kensington Estates Preliminary Plat, cont. 9. Oak Bluff 2nd Addition Sketch Plan 10. MMHI Variance II. Drop-in Facility/SC District, Cant. 12. Adjournment u u /,--, o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - MINUTES MARCH 24, 1987 The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Apel at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, March 24, 1987 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Bosell, Jovanovich, Pirkl, Rogers, Jacobson, Vistad None Assistant City Engineer Todd Haas; Randy Pederson; Larry Stenquist; Lary Carlson; Jerry Windschitl; Chuck Cook; others Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Approval of Minutes - March 10, 1987 MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jacobson to approve the minutes of March 10, 1987 as written. Motion carried on a 5 yes, 2 present (Jovanovich, Rogers) vote. C) Randy Pederson Variance Randy Pederson, 16221 Verdin Street N.W. - stated that he is splitting his 15 acre parcel into a 5 acre parcel and a 10 acre parcel. The frontage on the 5 acre parcel is only 296.50 feet and the city ordinance requires 300 feet. Commissioner Bosell questioned whether the legal description for the 5 acre parcel is written in the correct form and advised Mr. Pederson to ask the surveyor. Commissioner Jacobson noted that the legal description says that the frontage is 296.42 feet and the survey drawing shows it as 296.50 feet. That should also be checked with the surveyor to make sure that the legal description and the survey match. o MOTION by Vistad, seconded by pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a variance requested by Randy Pederson to vary from the lot width requirement on property described as 'The north 296.42 feet of the west 747.79 feet of the south half of the northwest quarter of Section 15, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota. Subject to the right-of-way of County Road 59. Subject to other easements of record, if any.', for the following reasons: I) A hardship is created as Mr. Pederson does not own the property to the north or south; 2) It will not adversely affect the existing or potential use of adjacent land; 3) It is necessary to the reasonable use of the land; 4) It does not violate the intent or spirit of the ordinance; 5) It is not in conflict with the Comprehen- sive Plan. Approval is subject to the proper legal description being provided. , ./ Regular Planning Commission Meeting March 24, 1987 - Minutes Page 2 , (R. Pederson Variance, Cont.) , 'J j Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on April 7, 1987. Rum River Ranch Estates Preliminary Plat Public Hearinq, Cont. Chairman Apel noted that the plat is basically the same drawing the Commission reviewed at the last meeting. One of the things we wanted to know was whether Mr. Smith would plat only 3 lots rather than the four that were shown on the previous drawing. Larry Stenquist, representinq Clyde Smith - stated that Mr. Smith wants to have four lots. Commissioner Bosell noted that in some of the new plats there are odd shaped lots. This allows for the reasonable use of the land. If this plat had come in prior to the adoption of the Scenic River Ordinance, the riparian lot could have been 2~ acres. She felt that three lots make it compliant with the ordinance, but four don't violate the spirit of the ordinance. Commissioner Jacobson stated that when the Council originally saw this plat the size of the lots was different than what they are now. He thought that the Council thought that the lots would be bigger. If the / plat is left as it is, there will be a minimum of 5 variances. A lot of those variances could be eliminated if the plat were three lots. Commissioner Rogers felt that the developer should come back with three lots and then we would only have one variance. Commissioner Pirkl noted that the city map shows a lot already split out of this property. Mr. Stenquist explained that Mr. Smith sold that piece of property to a Mr. Brown and then Mr. Brown sold it back to Mr. Smith. By platting this, they will be eliminating that parcel, which is l~ acres. Ms. Bosell asked what Marystone Boulevard. into the plat. happened to the 12 foot easement that goes out to Mr. Stenquist stated that it will be incorporated Commissioner Pirkl stated that she has no problems with this being platted as four lots. Chairman Apel suggested continuing this item as Mr. Smith needs to provide legal descriptions for the l~ acre parcel and the 12 foot ease- ment. Ms. Bosell stated that on the legend it should say that it's in the Scenic River District. The 100 year elevation should say 100 year flood elevation. Also, the minimum basement elevation needs to be shown. In the setback line area another setback needs to be met - it has to be 150 feet from the ordinary high water mark or 30 feet from the bluff line, whichever is greater. It should also say that there are no '- ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting March 24, 1987 - Minutes Page 3 (Rum River Ranch Estates, Cont.) o " , ) miles of new road being constructed. Lot I needs a side yard setback line. She also noted that the ordinary high water mark needs to be identified. This plat also needs to go to the Department of Natunal Resources. Mr. Stenquist noted that he spoke to the DNR and they said that the substandard lots don't matter as long as the riparian lot is four acres. Ms. Bosell also noted that it should say that the building on Lot I will be razed. Todd Haas stated that the soils report has not been received yet. Chairman Apel suggested that Mr. Stenquist call the Council to get their views on three lots versus four lots. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Pirkl to table this item to the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Colonial Creek Sketch Plan Commissioner Jacobson stated that he is glad that this plat does not have 80 foot lots. He also understood that Mr. Carlson is talking to Meadow Creek Church about trading some land. Lary Carlson, developer - stated that the proposed golf course is under study. There are two people investigating this possibility. They feel it is big enough for a 9 hole course which can be played two ways. There is one other course like this in Minnesota and six or seven elsewhere. The course needs to be self-supporting. Mr. Carlson also noted that the church has some land that is the same elevation as the proposed golf course and if they can acquire this property, they will add it to the golf course. Eidelweiss Street would also be continued to the north. Homes would be constructed around the course. Commissioner Bosell asked what impact the trade-off of land would have on the plat. Mr. Carlson stated that he is going to proceed as though the trade-off is not going to happen. If the golf course goes through, the lots in the northwest part of the plat would not be developed. He also noted that wee links (golf for children) might be a possibility. There would also be a driving range. Commissioner Jacobson asked if they are anticipating a link up to South Coon Creek Drive. Mr. Carlson stated yes, they would be looking at a trade off for park fees or land. Mr. Jacobson asked if the golf course would be public or private. Mr. Carlson noted it would be semi- private, with memberships available. He also noted that they feel the golf course would be used almost entirely by Andover residents. Mr. Jacobson stated that he would object to the commercial mixed with the residential in the southern part of the plat. Mr. Carlson noted that Mr. Adolfson will also be coming in for a rezoning on his property. , , '-/ Regular Planning Commission Meeting March 24, 1987 - Minutes Page 4 (Colonial Creek Sketch Plan, Cont.) / Todd Haas showed the Commission a drawing of what the county will approve for Bunker Lake Boulevard. Commissioner Pirkl felt that along Bunker Lake Boulevard there should only be commercial uses. Commissioner Bosell noted that the property proposed to be used for the golf course is in the floodway and needs to be submitted to the Department of Natural Resources. Mr. Jacobson asked if the titles for the properties along Coon Creek had been cleared up. Mr. Carlson stated that it is in the torrens action right now. Chairman Apel agreed that it's a good plat, but the main concern is the commercial property on the south side of the plat. Byron Westlund, Woodland Development - stated the on the corner lots, the setback requirements are 35 feet on the front and side. Several contractors have asked if there could be some consideration on which way the houses face. Mr. Carlson noted that they plan to do this plat yet this fall. Recess 8:55 P.M. - Reconvene 9:10 P.M. Kensinqton Estates preliminary Plat, Cont. Jerry Windschitl, Developer - noted that the revised plat reflects all of the changes requested at the last meeting. Commissioner Jacobson asked if Outlot C is allowed as it is landlocked. Commissioner Bosell stated that the ordinance allows outlots, but this would never be issued a building permit. She asked if it should be combined with Outlot B. Mr. Apel stated that there is a problem back to the east and Mr. Windschitl is trying to solve it with this configuration. Jerry Windschitl stated that it's being dedicated for drainage purposes, providing the ability for a slope easement. He also noted that Outlot B is for access. Ms. Bosell felt that the notation "See site plan" should be stricken from the plat. Mr. Windschitl noted that the lots on the cul-de-sac on the southern part of the plat all have minimum square footage. A variance would be required for the setback on Lots 34, 35 and 36 of Block 3. If a variance would not be granted, he will have to move the cul-de-sac back to where it was before. If the variance is granted the engineers would like to calculate it out to widen the back out. The Slyzuk's would like to get more than what you see there.