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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING=~~Y 12, 1987
AGENDA
7:30 P.M.
I. Call to order
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Local Oil Addition Preliminary Plat Public Hearing
4. Steve Johnson Variance, Cont.
5. St. Anthony National Bank Variance
6. Comprehensive Plan Amendment Public Hearing
7. Discussion/Rezoning of Commercial Park
8. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES
MAY 12, 1987
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting was called to order by Chairman Apel at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday,
May 12, 1987 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W.,
Andover, MN.
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent:
Also Present:
Bosell, Jovanovich, Jacobson, Rogers, Vistad
None
City Engineer Jim Schrantz; Herb Perry;
Wendell Lotthammer; others
Approval of Minutes
April 28, 1987
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Rogers to approve the minutes of April
28, 1987 as presented. Motion carried.
Local Oil Addition Preliminary Plat Public Hearinq
Chairman Apel opened the public hearing.
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Herb Perry, CEO Local Oil Company - stated that they are requesting
to plat into two lots the property they purchased from Mr. Chutich
on the corner of Round Lake Boulevard and Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Commissioner Bosell noted that the only outstanding item on the plat
is to show the water stubs on Lots I and 2. The Andover Review
Committee has recommended that the sanitary sewer be plugged so that
when the Fire Department burns the existing structures on the south
end of the property, the water doesn't go down the sewer. The house
located on the north side of the property is proposed to be moved.
It was also recommended that the setback along Underclift Street be
35 feet to keep this structure consistent with the existing houses on
that street. The utility and drainage easement shown on the interior
of the plat should be removed.
Discussion centered on the driveway access to the two lots. Ms. Bosell
noted that when Lot I developes, they might be required to put in
some type of service drive.
Commissioner Rogers felt that when Lot I is developed, a lot of traffic
will be going to Underclift Street and through the residential area.
Jim Schrantz, City Engineer - noted that he spoke to the property owner
on the west side of Underclift to see if he could come up with some-
thing that wovld be more compatible with the Neighborhood Business.
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,-) the neighborhood to the north.
A gentlemen in the audience stated that he felt that there would be
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a lot of traffic through his neighborhood going to the shopping center
across Round Lake Boulevard.
Commissioner Bosell suggested that the city could put up a "No through
traffic" sign on Underclift.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
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MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the pre-
liminary plat of Local Oil Addition being developed by Local Oil
Company, legally described as 'That part of the east 487.00 feet of
the south 360.00 feet of the Southeast Quarter of the Northwest Quarter
of Section 32, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota lying
west of the west right-of-way of County State Aid Highway No. 9 as per
Sheet I of Anoka County Highway Right-of-way Plat No. 14', for the
following reasons: I) The plat is in conformance with the Comprehensive
Plan; 2) The plat has been reviewed by the City Engineer and the
Andover Review Committee; 3) Public Works has recommended a I" water
service for Lots I and 2; 4) It has been recommended that the sanitary
sewer be plugged when the structures are burned; 5) The setback along
Underclift Street should be 35 feet to be consistent with the residential
area to the north of the site; 6) Park dedication of $2,180 in lieu
of land be paid at the time of the final plat; 7) The Andover Review
Committee recommends removal of the interior drainage and utility
easement as shown on the plat and that a 10 foot setback remain; 8)
the plat meets the city ordinances; 9) the SuperAmerica building will
be located on Lot 2, Block I, which is zoned Neighborhood Business.
It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was concern
about the routing of traffic.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on June
2, 1987.
St. Anthony National Bank Variance
Wendell Lotthammer, representinq the bank - stated that they are
requesting two variances based on a letter received from Todd Haas
after his review of the plan. The first variance would be for the
size of the parking spaces and the second to reduce the green space.
Commissioner Jacobson stated that we should probably approve the
variance for the parking spaces because the shopping center was granted
a variance for the same thing. He did have a problem with the second
variance as a need has not been shown for the expansion of the drive
through lanes.
i The concensus of the Commission was that the second request if pre-
mature. They should come back when a need is shown.
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Commissioner Bosell stated that she would like to see the parking
spaces 10' x 18' rather than 9' x 18'. She also felt that because
this lot is a part of the shopping center, the resolution approving
the smaller parking spaces for the rest of the shopping center would
apply to this parcel also.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Rogers that the Andover Planning and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a variance
requested by the St. Anthony National Bank, Andover facility, for
9' x 18' parking stalls. The Planning Commission believes that the
City Council has already granted this variance in prior action,
Resolution No. RI20-86. However, if legal opinion is that it has not
been granted by this action, the Commission does recommend approval
for reasons of compatibility with the parking stalls which have
already been allowed in the adjoining shopping center.
As to the second request to encroach into the 20 foot side yard green
space, the Commission recommends this variance not be granted for the
following reasons: I) The Commission feels it is a premature move
because the bank does not yet know what the volume of traffic will be;
2) It appears as thought the request can not be granted to the extent
as being requested per Ordinance 8, Section 8.04 and 8.08 (B)(4).
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Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on June
2, 1987.
Comprehensive Plan Amendment Public Hearinq
Chairman Apel opened the public hearing.
Jim Schrantz - gave a brief history of the present Urban Service
Boundary and how the proposed boundary came about. Some areas of the
city were added to the MUSA boundary while others were removed. The
trunk will go up Crosstown Boulevard from 140th Avenue, go across the
creek, down the north side of the creek to the Hills of Bunker Lake
plat, and up through the plat to Bluebird Street, along Hartfiel's
Estates and up to Oak Bluff and the new school site.
Ms. Bosell noted that in order to expand our sanitary sewer system,
we have to amend our Comprehensive Plan.
Commissioner Vistad asked if we would be better off if we eliminate those
areas that we know are not going to be served.
Mr. Schrantz stated that the boundary as shown is all the Metropolitan
Council will give us. They feel they have given us more capacity than
we deserve.
Ms. Bosell noted that another problem we have with the Met Council
is that they don't acknowledge 4000 people that we have in the city.
Recess 8:45 - Reconvene 8:51.
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Commissioner Jacobson stated that if there is a motion made on this
tonight he will vote present because he doesn't feel that 20 minutes
of discussion is enough for him to make a decision.
Commissioner Rogers didn't feel there is any justification for sewer
on the property on Bunker Lake Boulevard where the power station is
located. Also, some of the other land along Bunker is not going to be
developable.
Mr. Schrantz noted that we are not going to be able to extend the
boundary that is shown on the map. Without approving this change to
the plan, we are not going to be able to do any developing. The
school site will not be able to be served without amending the plan.
Ms. Bosell stated that the Met Council is not going to change
minds again. It's hard to try to get them to be reasonable.
we don't do anything, we basically are saying that there will
development north of the creek.
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Mr. Schrantz then showed the Commission the conceptual plan for the
Tax Increment Financing Area.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Vistad to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council an amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan as presented; more specifically, amend Page 63B
of the Comprehensive Plan to identify the new alignment of the 2000
Urban Service Area. To further amend Page 64A to adjust the 1990-1995
and year 2000 figures as they apply to residential low density, public-
semi-public and streets in those three categories. Further to recommend
that Page 96 of the Comprehensive Plan be amended to make our thorough-
fare plan consistent with the streets that we presently have in the
city, particularly renaming the streets to minor arterials as opposed
to major arterials as identified in Ordinance 8. Also to bring into
alignment the proposed future development of some of the arterials
and collectors within the city.
A public hearing was held; there was not public input at the Planning
Commission level. The amendment would allow for the development of the
city in the urban service area to provide sanitary sewer and water
facilities in conjunction with the construction of the new school site
south of City Hall and also development already approved by the City
Council. That being the Hills of Bunker Lake and adjacent properties
that have requested to be developed in an urban service type of
development.
Discussion: Commissioner Rogers didn't feel that there was sufficient
input and he will probably vote no on the motion. Commissioner Vistad
stated that it is his feeling that this is all the Met Council is going
to give us. Commissioner Jacobson noted that the Council has gone over
this a lot; however, he did not feel comfortable voting for such a
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major change with not enough input. He stated that he will probably
vote present.
Mr. Rogers asked Mr. Schrantz how soon we can go back to the Met
Council and ask for an extension of our boundary. Mr. Schrantz
stated that as soon as we can show them we have a need for more
development we can ask for a change.
Chairman Apel stated that if he had not been at the council meetings
where this was discussed he would be in the same position as Mr.
Jacobson.
Vote on motion: Carried unanimously.
Mr. Jacobson stated that he really didn't feel he had a lot of input.
He felt that his yes vote might help to get it through the Met Council.
He didn't feel that the Planning Commission was involved enough. There
is a lot that comes by the Commission that they are not involved with.
Mr. Jacobson suggested more joing meetings with the Council might be
helpful.
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Chairman Apel will inform the Council that it is the feeling of the
Planning Commission that they were not involved in the process and
that they were unaware of the conceptual plan for the TIF area.
Discussion/Rezoning of Commercial Park
Commissioner Bosell explained that the City Council has recommended
that we reclassify the Commercial Park property. She suggested having
a joint meeting with the Council before any hearings are held.
Mr. Schrantz stated that they are looking at which district would
allow commercial uses, such as a small tool and die company.
Commissioner Jacobson suggested establishing a new district that
would be like an office park with a movie theater, office buildings,
restaurants, etc. Looking at the size of the proposed lots, 1.5 and
1.8 acres, you can't put major warehousing in that area.
Mr. Schrantz noted that the Council
Blaine where Cat Pumps is located.
want heavy commercial uses.
was thinking of a concept like in
He didn't think that we would
MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Vistad to continue this item to the
next meeting. motion carried.
Steve Johnson Variance, Cont.
Commissioner Bosell stated that the property involved with this
, variance is governed by Ordinance 71, the Shoreland Management
/ Ordinance. He does meet the Ordinary High Water Mark setback; however,
he will have to deal with the cutting of vegetation, filling, etc.
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MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Rogers to continue this item to the
next meeting. Motion carried on a 5 yes, I no (Jacobsonl vote.
MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jovanovich to adjourn. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Victoria Volk
Commission Secretary
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