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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 23, 1987 '--j '---' ,....., ',,-) o 7:30 P.M. o o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 23, 1987-AGENDA 1. Call to order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Colonial Creek Preliminary Plat/Special use Permit Public Hearing 4. Woodland Development Lot Split 5. Ron Smith Lot Split 6. R. Wandersee Sketch Plan 7. Ordinance 8, Sections 3.02 & 4.19 Amendment Public Hearing 8. Discussion/Rezoning Commercial Park, Cont. 9. Adjournment ,--) '''---) r', \~ / '\ o o o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES JUNE 23, 1987 The was 23, MN. regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting called to order by Chairman Maynard Apel at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, June 1987 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Bosell, Jacobson, Perry, Vistad Jovanovich, Rogers Jim Schrantz, City Engineer; Todd Haas, Assistant Engineer; Dave Almgren, Building Official; Byron Westlund; Sylvia Britton; Dave Spalding; Robert Wandersee; others Approval of Minutes June 9, 1987 MOTION by Bosell, seconded by vistad to approve the minutes of June 9, 1987 as written. Motion carried on a 3 yes, 2 present (Jacobson, Perry) vote. Colonial Creek preliminary Plat/Special Use Permit Public Hearinq Chairman Apel opened the public hearing. Chairman Apel stated that the reason for the Special Use Permit is because there are three uses in the plat - residential, commercial and a golf course. Byron Westlund, Woodland Development - noted that they received a copy of the memo from the Andover Review Committee and have corrected some of the items requested. Commissioner Bosell asked if there was a drawing showing the proposed uses of the property. Mr. Westlund stated that one would be provided. Commissioner Jacobson suggested that Woodland Development make sure that Neighborhood Business is the zoning they want for the commercial property and he asked what the access would be to that parcel. Mr. Westlund stated that they understand that office buildings are allowed in a Neighborhood Business district and that is what they would propose for that area. The access would be from Marigold Street. He also noted that the Neighborhood Business parcel is approximately 5 acres in size. Stuart Kinkade, 13781 Quay Street N.W. - asked if the Neighborhood Business zoning would be on that property forever and if the zoning map will show that zoning on that parcel. Mr. Schrantz stated that because it is a Planned Unit Development, the zoning map will not show it as a Neighborhood Business district but will show it as a Planned Unit Development. That NB zoning will remain forever. ~ , ~ Regular Planning Commission Meeting June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 2 \ (Colonial Creek, Cont.) ) u Gene Wehling, 13906 Crocus Street N.W.- stated that he lives on Coon Creek and understands that there might be a question as to the boundaries along the creek. Sylvia Britton, Woodland Development - explained that the boundary problem is going through the Torrens procedure now and it will be cleared through the Courts. Mr. Wehling - asked if Neighborhood Business allows liquor stores and bath houses. He was told that neither use is allowed. Commissioner Jacobson stated that he has no problem with the golf course but questioned the Neighborhood Business zoning because there is the shopping center being built to the west, and there are NB districts to the south and also the one that SuperAmerica is going to build on. Ms. Britton noted that the City Council requested that they put that NB district where it is shown. Mr. Apel felt that the Council feels the area along Bunker Lake Boulevard will all be commercial eventually. \ / Mr. Jacobson questioned that traffic plan for this area. Todd Haas, Assistant Engineer, showed the Commission a proposal by the county for that area. There would be a traffic light on Marigold Street. Mr. Schrantz noted that we are trying to keep the traffic off of Quay Street. Commissioner Jacobson stated that another thing that bothers him is that the ordinance syas if you want to do something like this, you have to have a complete detail plan showing landscaping, driveways, etc. Ms. Britton stated that it's hard to do something when you really don't have any plans; this was something that the Council requested. Commissioner Bosell explained that what has happened is that the Building Department has developed a commercial site plan application that has all of the landscaping, etc. on it plus more items. Mr. Schrantz stated that the zoning ordinance and it's written, this would Planned Unit Development property. we have been making the developers comply the subdivision ordinance. If they did it have drawings for everything on the plat. is not any different than if they rezoned with like The the Chairman Apel read a letter from Jerry Johnson of Big Wheel Auto noting their objections to the golf course because it would take a lot of housing from the demographics for future businesses. Mr. Westlund stated that the golf course is in the floodway and it is one of the few uses allowed in a floodway. Stuart Kinkade - felt that the Neighborhood Business district should be , (), . Regular Plannlng Commlsslon Meetlng June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 3 (Colonial Creek, Cont.) u "\ I J rezoned rather than being part of a PUD. Commissioner Vistad felt that because of the increased traffic on Bunker Lake Boulevard, the NB zoning will be a good buffer zone. Commissioner Bosell noted that if this was a rezoning, they don't need to provide a site plan to the Planning Commission. It was also noted that more property owners were notified of the PUD than would have been if it was a rezoning. Bob Pullis (7) - felt that Woodland Development should corne up with some ideas of what they would put in the NB distri~t. He then asked where the access for the golf course will be. Mr. Westlund stated that the access will be from the north end, off South Coon Creek Drive. Joan Harms - asked if there are any plans to do anything with Rose Park. Chairman Apel suggested that Ms. Harms go to the Park Board with that question. Lyle McLaughlin, 3155 Bunker Lake Boulevard N.W. - stated that he has no problem with the PUD. He asked what the berming will be between the NB zone and his property. .' "\ / Ms. Bosell noted that the ordinance protects residential property from a Neighborhood Business district. No buildings will be within 75 feet of Mr. McLaughlin's property line and fencing is required. Mr. McLaughlin questioned what looks like a service road across the front of the property. Mr. Westlund noted that it's part of the right-of-way the county is trying to acquire. Mr. McLaughlin asked who will own the property to the north of him and what it will be zoned. Mr. Jacobson stated that Meadow Creek Church will own that property and it will be zoned residential. Mr. McLaughlin stated that they are basically in favor of the plat. Gene Wehling - felt that the golf course would tend to increase the values of the properties in that area. Stuart Kinkade - asked if the driveway into the Round Barn is going to be put on Marigold Street when this plat is done. Ms. Bosell felt that this plat would give them the opportunity to do that. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jacobson to close the public hearing. Motion carried. \ j MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jacobson that the Andover Planning and zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Special Use Permit requested by Woodland Development for a Planned Unit Development to allow a golf course, residential uses and Neighborhood Business pursuant to Ordinance 8, Section 4.18, for the following reasons: 1) The proposed use , \ \_J Regular Planning Commission Meeting June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 4 , (Colonial Creek, Cont.) , u / will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) it will not cause serious traffic congestion; 3) it will not depreciate surrounding property values; 4) it is in harmony with the general purpose and intent of the Zoning Ordinance and Comprehensive Plan. Approval is contingent upon the commercial site plan being received by the Planning Commission and the City Council for the Neighborhood Business location only and also that the areas be labeled as golf course, NB and R-4. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 21, 1987. Recess 8:37 - Reconvene 8:45 P.M. Chairman Apel opened the public hearing for the Preliminary Plat of Colonial Creek. Todd Haas - noted that a lot of the lots exceed the 11,400 square foot requirement and the whole project is approximately 190 acres. One of the things staff is concerned with is the traffic. Chairman Apel addressed a petition presented by the residents of Quay Street, 138th Lane and 138th Court objecting to the plat because of the expected traffic load. ) / Ms. Bosell noted that the floodway boundary needs to be changed. Byron Westlund - stated that they are tying into existing roads. One of their concepts is to have larger size lots in this area. They have made a lot of the technical changes on the plat that were requested by the Andover Review Committee. The fee owners are now listed; the revision date and date of preparation are shown; the quarter section lines are shown. They are presently working with the power company, phone company, etc. There are no covenants available at this time, but they will be provided. Additional soil borings have been done. The right-of-way on 138th Lane, 140th Avenue and 142nd Avenue have been changed to 66 feet. The basement elevations have also been shown. Variances will be required on Lot 21, Block 12 and Lot 1, Block 13. The pond acreage (25 acre feet) is shown. Coon Creek Watershed approval has been received. The slopes will be four to one maximum. The plat will have city sewer and city water. The plat has been submitted to the Department of Natural Resources and the Corps of Engineers. The Park Board has asked for an entrance into Rose Park wide enough for a car. The entrance to the golf course off of South Coon Creek Drive will be 90 feet wide. Dave Almqren, Buildinq Official - explained that the minimum basement elevation should actually be the lowest floor elevation pursuant to Section 8.04 (P) of Ordinance 10. \ Commissioner Jacobson stated that the easement along Coon Creek needs to I be shown all the way up to the golf course. He asked what their intention is as far as park land. Dave Spaldinq, Woodland Development - stated that they are meeting with the u u Regular Planning Commission Meeting June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 5 (Colonial Creek, Cont.) , / Park Board on July 6, 1987 and they are thinking of a combination of things, such as reduced rates at the golf course for Andover residents, money in lieu of land, or some type of programs for adults and children. Ms. Bosell asked how large the golf course parcel is. Mr. Spalding noted that it's 80 acres. Discussion was on the access to the golf course which is through park land that was dedicated with the Creekridge Estates plat and whether we could legally use that property for access into another plat. Mr. Schrantz noted that we will have to get an opinion from the City Attorney. Mr. Jacobson noted that a letter of consent from the fee owners needs to be provided to the city. He asked how this plat will be staged for develop- ment. Mr. Westlund stated that it will probably be done in three phases starting on the west and going east. Mr. Jacobson asked what the intention of the two water level control structures on the grading plan are for. Larry Koshak - explained that they are part of control of the pond levels on the golf course. the Coon Creek Watershed Board. He also noted tied together. the drainage system for They must be approved by that all of the ponds are \ j Mr. Jacobson stated that there will be 230 homes in that area with 190 of them probably going west or south. He felt that if Orchid Street were brought to the south through Adolfson's property, it would solve some of the traffic problem. Stuart Kinkade suggested putting a cul-d-sac on 138th to solve some of the traffic problems. Mr. Schrantz noted that when traffic gets to 750 ADT we consider it a major street. We would like to get the people onto Bunker Lake Boulevard and off of Round Lake Boulevard. Commissioner Jacobson noted that Block 10 is the one that impedes the north/south flow. If you went through Block 10 and made a cul-de-sac on 138th, you would only lose two lots. Commissioner Bosell didn't agree with making 138th Lane into a cul-de-sac; Quay Street will be posted "no through traffic" and that should help. The bubble shown on 138th and Lily was discussed with Byron Westlund stating that it was put on their so that the lots can be larger. Mr. Schrantz suggested leaving the right-of-way there but constructing the street at 32 feet. , j The Commission then discussed the small parking lot in the northwest corner of the plat. Commissioner Vistad suggested that it be a lot for a house rather than a parking lot. Sylvia Britton felt it should be left as a parking lot because there will be cross country skiing in the winter and it will be a shorter way for people living south of the golf course to get there. " \ o o Regular Planning Commission Meeting June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 6 (Colonial Creek, Cont.) , , / MOTION by Perry, seconded by vistad to close the public hearing. Motion carried. Commissioner Perry suggested making 138th a one-way street going east. Mr. Schrantz felt that the big problem is corning from within the plat and the people taking a short cut through Northglen to get to the shopping center. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Perry to table this to the next meeting to give staff and the developer the opportunity to meet to discuss the road system. Motion carried. This will be on the agenda on July 14, 1987. (Commissioner Bosell left at 11:05 PM.) Woodland Development Lot Split Byron Westlund - stated that the lot split is a result of negotiations with the Meadow Creek Church for a property exchange. It was noted that the Church and George Adolfson need to sign the lot '\ split application as they are actually the property owners. J MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jacobson to table this item to the next meeting. Motion carried. Ordinance 8 Amendment Public Hearing Commissioner Apel opened the public hearing. Mr. Apel explained that this amendment will allow for the conversion of two family homes into two separate ownerships. This was in the ordinance previously but was inadvertently deleted. Commissioner Jacobson suggested that the portion of the amendment where it says that the location of the sewer stubs, wells, party wall must be shown should be amended to say 'individual wells or sources of water'. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Perry to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Jacobson that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of an amendment to Ordinance 8 as presented. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 21, 1987. .1 R. Wandersee Sketch Plan Todd Haas stated that Mr. Wandersee would like to plat his property into six lots. (J Regular Planning Commission Meeting June 23, 1987 - Minutes Page 7 , (Wandersee Sketch Plan, Cont.) i , ,; u Chairman Apel noted that the Council asked Mr. Wandersee to talk to Rosella Sonsteby and the Hagens to see if they would cooperate with platting the whole area. The Planning Commission felt that the plan as presented was a good plan. The Planning Commission asked the secretary to have a public hearing notice published to amend Ordinance 8 dealing with the size of parking stalls. MOTION by Perry, seconded by Vistad to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 11:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, u. tJ~~ Vicki Volk - Commission Secretary 1 " ./