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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
February 19, 1987
AGENDA
1. Call to Order 7:30 p.m.
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Resident Forum
4. Field Scheduling
5. Kelsey Park Update
6. Report from Public Works
7. Report from Park Chairman
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9. Adjourn
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
February 19, 1987
The regularly scheduled Andover Park and Recreation Commission meeting was
called to order by Chairman McMullen at 7:30 p.m., Thursday, February 19,
1987 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN.
Commissioners
Also Present:
Present: Strootman, McMullen, Sabel, Kieffer, Kinkade
Todd Haas, Frank Stone, Don Hanson, Tom Adler, Fritz Anderson,
Brian Budish, Dave Larson
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Strootman to approve the minutes of the
February 5, 1987 meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
FIELD SCHEDULING
MOTION by Kieffer, seconded by Strootman to move all bases to 65 feet for
all softball fields with cemented bases. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: There was a conflict on softball field sizes--all fields will
have official base line of 65 feet. If organizations wish to have shorter
bases they can bring their own and set them in. All teams will be responsible
for putting away bases after games. Public works will install equipment boxes
behind the back stop--keys will be available in about two weeks.
Chairman McMullen asked if anyone has a problem with their schedule--the
schedule worked for everyone. Dave Larson did not know if North Metro Soccer
would need to schedule Forest Meadows. Chairman McMullen requested input from
organizations as to what they see as future needs for the parks department.
Dave Larson, North Metro Soccer, said when the plans are in for the new school,
North Metro would like to be involved and give their comments. Frank Stone,
Public Works, said there will be several additional fields ready for play by
next year. Also discussed--is it better to have several fields in one area or
single fields scattered around the city. The general opinion seemed to be that
although neighborhood parks are convenient for travel etc. it is better for
families who have several kids involved if they all play in the same complex
for organized leagues and a common complex would make tournaments possible.
Public works said maintenance will be difficult for fields when they are
played more than once a day. On a few nights, Andover Athletic Association
will play fifteen minutes after Meadow Creek School. Meadow Creek said they
would prepare the fields after play the best they are able with such limited
time. North Metro Soccer is buying another machine for lining fields.
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Kieffer to approve the 1987 Softball and
~ Soccer schedule(attached). Motion carried unanimously.
All organizations were present for schedule approval except Andover Athletic
Association. All organizations had been notified of the meeting.
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Park and Recreation Meeting Minutes
February 19, 1987
Page Two
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Park Volunteers
Chairman McMullen presented "Andover Parks" hats to Dave Larson and Ken Reed
for their volunteer work on the installation of the sprinkler system last
summer. Larry Strootman was also honored. Chairman McMullen will present
hats to the other volunteers at their meetings. The other volunteers to
receive hats are from the Andover Athletic Association, Boy Scouts of America,
and Public Works Dept. of Andover.
Kelsey-Round Lake Park
Jeff Kieffer reported that he has talked to Lloyd Knutson from the DNR, in
charge of Carlos Avery, and he was very interested in helping with the
planning of Kelsey Round Lake Park. He said if prairie grass was planted
it would need a good fire boundary because it needs to be burned every few
years to maintain its value. Mr. Knutson also said prairie grass needs to
be professionally planted because of its light weight and conventional farm
equipment cannot plant it properly. He also suggested plowing, disking,
and planting a crop of soybeans this year to control weeds and make the ground
ready for prairie vegetation. Mr. Knutson was not available to attend this
park meeting but would come another time. He also had ideas for planting trees
and bushes for habitat Jeff Kieffer also contacted the nature conservatory.
They also seemed interested in helping out with planning.
Gretchen Sabel talked to Rick Ramseyer from the Boy Scouts and he has twenty
scouts working on forestry badges who would be interested in planting trees.
He gave the date of April 11th as a good day for the scouts to plant. The
board was not sure that Kelsey would be ready for tree planting at that time
but there may be other planting to do at other parks. It was brought up that
the property bordering Hawkridge had said they would plant bushes (lilacs, etc.)
along the fence row as a border between properties.
Brad Dillon is the farmer who has been farming at Kelsey Round Lake. Todd Haas
said he would contact him and ask him to attend the 2nd meeting in March. Jeff
Kieffer said he would ask Lloyd Knutson to attend the next park meeting.
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Strootman to request the city administrator to
approve Frank Stone to purchase 1000 seedlings from DNR to be planted at the
property at the end of l53rd at Kelsey Round Lake to be designated as the
nursery for Andover Parks. The order of 1000 seedling should be a variety of
trees, bushes, pines., Discussion: Seedling should be planted at a designated
nursery area until they are big enough to transplant. Motion carried unanimously.
Gretchen Sabel said she would notify the boy scouts of upcoming planting plans.
Park Lights
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Councilman Jim Elling met with the park commission and discussed alternative
lighting that he has been checking out with Frank Stone. He presented some
figures on directional night watch units like they have at Coon Rapids city
hall. These units can be aimed and this high sodium fixture can put out four times
!feater than our present light fixtures but they are not available through Anoka
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Park and Recreation Meeting Minutes
February 19, 1987
Page Three
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Electric. He has talked to Carol Kirsner and asked if the city had their own
poles if several poles could run off of one meter. The city could do that
and he gave some statistics on approximate cost of one pole with meter from
Anoka Electric: 10 hrs./day x 250 watts = 2.5KWH
2.5KWH x 69~ = .1725~/day
.1725~/day x 30 days = %5.18 + $7.50 (meter) = $12.68/month
For poles to be installed it would probably cost about $500 for first pole
and about $13/month. Now each pole has it's own meter and we are paying for
a lot of individual meters. This type of lighting would be good for parking
lots, skating rinks etc. but not good for softball and soccer fields because
of its orange tint. They will also have to be maintained by the city.
Discussed buying poles and fixtures and hire a contractor to install them.
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Sabel to rescind motion of December 4, 1986
requesting the city council to direct Frank Stone to proceed with installation
of lights at Cedar Crest Pond and Prairie Knoll. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: Other methods of lighting are being evaluated at this time. No
lights should be ordered until the park board completes their evaluation.
Councilman Elling also told the park commission that it has been proposed for
lot splits that park dedication be changed from $100 to $200.
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Sabel to adjourn at 9:30 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
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CITY OF ANDOVER
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REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION
DATE
March 3, 1987
Parks Department
APPROVaR
AGENDA
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AGENDA SECTION
NO, Staff, Committee, Commission
ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT
ITEM
NO, S.c. Park Board/Rescind Motio
BY: Jane Peterson
MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Sabel to rescind motion of December 4, 1986
requesting the city council to direct Frank Stone to proceed with installation
of lights at Cedar Crest Pond and Prairie Knoll. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: Other methods of lighting are being evaluated at this time. No
lights should be ordered until the park board completes their evaluation.
COUNCIL ACTION
MOTION BY
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SECOND BY
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