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CITY of ANDOVER
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
August 6, 1987
AGENDA
1. Call to Order 7:30 p.m.
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Resident Forum
4. Creekside Estate--Preliminary Plat
5. Report--Rum River Canoe Landing
6. Report--Oak Bluff
7. Budget Work Session
8. Report from Public Works
9. Report from Park Chairman
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11. Adjourn
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CITY of ANDOVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
AUGUST 6, 1987
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation
Commission was called to order at 7:40 p.m., Thursday, August 6, 1987,
in the Council Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.,
Andover, I1N.
Co~~issioners present included:
Larry Strootman, Gretchen Sabel, and
Works Supervisor Frank Stone. Guest
Chairman Marc McMullen, Stuart Kinkade,
Jeff Kieffer. Staff present was Public
in attendance was Paul Gengler.
APPROVAL OF HINUTES
Motion was made by Mr. Kinkade, seconded by Ms. Sabel, that the
meeting minutes of July 9, 1987, be approved as printed. Motion carried
unanimously.
RESIDENT FORUM - None
CREEKSIDE ESTATES - PRELIMINARY PLAT
Paul Gengler, 14440 Crosstown Blvd., Developer, representing Creekside
Estates, addressed the commission requesting their consideration for park
dedication on their proposed acreage.
Mr. Gengler reported that none of the area is buildable without a
great deal of fill, bringing the lots up 6 feet in height. He stated
that he is the owner of lots 1 through 5 and outlot A.
Following further discussion, motion was made by ~~. Kinkade, seconded
by Mr. Strootman, to accept cash in lieu of land at 10 per cent of the 11.8
acres or cash at fair market value of undeveloped land for 1.18 acres to be
determined by the City Administrator, and payable at the time of the final
plat.
Mr. Gengler felt that the price was way out of line for that small amount
of land, noting the large amount of fill that will be required.
There being no further discussion, vote was taken, and the motion
carried unanimously.
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The commission discussed the eventual receipt of land which had been
set aside for the Fire Department. Because of the placement of sewer and
water in the area, it was found to be unacceptable for Fire Department use,
but could be made available for park access.
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Park & Recreation Meeting Minutes
August 6, 1987
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RUM RIVER CANOE LANDING REPORT - Not available.
wnlle discussing the canoe landing, Mr. stone reported that he had
the southern part of the Rum River Forest Park surveyed because a resi-
dent on one side was placing the fill dirt for his house on the city's
land, so he was asked to move the soil on to his own land.
Burt Kraabel is reported tilling up the ball field. The backstop
is reportedly up today, parking lots will be installed with Class 5 down
to the river. Mr. Kinkade questioned the advisability of clearing enough
area around the river for the access. Mr. stone reported that it is suf-
ficiently clear, and Rum River Forest is going along good.
Further discussion on the Rum River Canoe landing will be placed on
the next agenda.
OAK BLUFF REPORT
Commission directed staff to review past minutes to see what was to
be done on the First Addition. Chairman McMullen stated that the developer
is coming in for a Second Addition, and it is unclear whether it has all
been paid. Staff was directed to research the status on the park's
present condition and see if they owe us any money on the park dedication.
STATUS OF THE PARKS
The Commission reviewed the status of the parks.
Hidden Creek - Equipment ordered; not received. Should be put up this
year. Ball fields may not be done this year, or the parking lot.
Question whether letter was sent to John Peterson, Good Value Homes,
regarding the receipt of the $1,800 in lieu of the berm. Leveling
the berm and putting in plantings is doubtful for this year.
Hills of Bunker - The section of the area with the seedlings were reportedly
not yet turned over to the city. Mr. Stone stated that there will be
no dedication owed the city until they go to the Third Addition. No
action in 1988. However, Chairman McMullen suggested if those seed-
lings do fall into park land, some could be transplanted for berm.
River Forest - Will be complete this year.
Prairie Knolls - Will be totally landscaped this year. No equipment.
Hawk Ridge - Staff should get bids out yet. May be graded this fall.
Fox Meadows - Has replaced by prairie Knolls for 1988.
Wild Iris Park - Shelters on order. Will try to put up this year. Trails
have been cut.
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Rose Park - Shelter is ordered; not received. Staff will verify. Picnic
tables ordered, not received; will be installed this year if time allows.
Forest Meadows - Very near future will have the frame out there for the pad
for the shelter, followed by two grills and the slab. Will be done
this year.
Kelsey Park - We have $5,000 left for trail systems. To be used for Class 5
materials on suggested trails. Suggested volunteer assistance to help
clear the area.
Woodland Meadows - Wait until perhaps January of 1988 to order equipment.
City Hall Park - $4,000 for trees and soccer field; $5,000 for creative play
area for a total of $9,000 allotted. When considering possible play
equipment, commission members concurred that item #96 from the catalog
be purchased with staff attempting to reduce the given price of $9,600
to fit the budget. Ms. Sabel suggested that the city work with the
Cities of Coon Rapids or Blaine when ordering equipment to obtain a
quantity discount. Hr. stone felt it would be difficult unless Andover
uses their specs.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner
Strootman, that the Public Works Supervisor be directed to purchase
from Game Duroseape Ds5211 at a price not to exceed $9,000 in line
with the $9,000 allocated for the budget from City Hall. This equip-
ment will be installed in place of the present equipment. Motion
carried unanimously.
Prairie Knoll - Will be graded and seeded this year.
Cedar Crest - Needs lighting. Chairman HcHullen suggested taking $3,500 from
Hidden Creek and put in lighting for several parks. Mr. Kinkade
stated that he didn't feel there should be lights installed unless there
is a demonstrated need for them. ~rr. Stone reported that the public
is not aware of the Park Board's proposals for area parks. Mr. Kinkade
suggested there be an article placed in the newsletter informing the
public.
Mr. Stone reported that signs for picnic table hours have been ordered.
Mr. Stone recommended that should there be money remaining in the
budget at the end of 1987, that the Park Board request a carry-over from
the City Council.
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Mr. Stone further reported that there will be problems with any attempt
to place trails of any kind in front of creek property. Should the commission
want any park easements, it should be done now while utilities are being
placed. Discussion was that the city should try to obtain the property from
the strip of land where the utility easements run to the creek.
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Langseth Park - Proposed work will be done yet in 1987.
Cedar Crest - Lighting will be done in 1987.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner
Kieffer, to put in lighting in the following parks: one at Cedar Crest
and two at prairie Knolls for the skating rink and sliding hill; not to
exceed $600.
vfuile discussing the placement of lighting in area parks, Commissioner
Kinkade recommended that if lights are to be placed in parks, residents
should be notified. Discussion continued on the possibility of lighting
skating rinks. Commission concurred that further discussion and action be
postponed until residents surrounding the proposed lighted area are notified.
There being no further discussion, the vote was taken, and the motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. stone reported receiving a call from a ~~s. Anderson requesting
permission to plant lilac bushes two feet onto park property along the
back of her lot, pointing out that others have been seen with gardens and
sandboxes on park property. Mr. stone informed her that she could have
her lilac bushes right on the lot line, as should others, but not on park
property. Commission concurred.
Chairman McMullen suggested putting in a rink in Forest Meadows.
Mr. stone recommended if done, it be done in the Fall of 1988, as with
River Forest, which will have a rink this year.
BUOOET WORK SESSION
Commissioner Kinkade suggested at this time the Board consider what
is needed, rather than dollar figures. Members concurred.
Fox Meadows - TOP PRIORITY. Grading and seeding.
Prairie Knoll - All playground equipment and Class 5 on parking lot.
Hawk Ridge - Same.
Horthwoods West Tennis Court - Chairman McMullen felt that nothing could
be done because the city is still in the midst of a legal battle.
Mr. stone agreed to discuss the matter with the City Attorney. The
tennis court is currently closed. Commission requested the current
status on the issue for the next meeting.
Woodland Meadows - Equipment
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Hidden Creek north and south - Ball fields, ag lime, back stops, parking
lot and equipment on the south.
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Shady Knolls - Upgrading skating rink. Tennis court upgrading.
Kelsey - Complete trail system, clean it up, shelter and benches, exercise
trail, trees, major activities.
Red Oaks East - Grading, maybe fill.
City Hall - Sand pit volley ball, creative play area, hockey rink, change
lighting
Wild Iris Park - Equipment
Oak Bluff - Soccer field; grading and seeding
Hills of Bunker - Undecided
Creek Ridge - Clean up beyond the 50 feet; picnic and play area.
Mr. Kinkade proposed that at the next meeting the commission determine
the cost of the equipment and estimate the man-hours involved to install it.
}~. Stone reported that he has been bidding the installation along with the
cost of the equipment. He further recommended that a presentation be made
to City Council regarding maintenance problems as part of the budget. Mr. Stone
recommended the budget be completed by August 13 and ready for presentation
to council.
REPORT FROM PUBLIC WORKS
lir. Stone reported that his department plans to request the purchase
of a park sweeper and perhaps a pickup from City Council in its budget.
Mr. Kinkade recommended that the next newsletter list the accomplish-
ments the city has done with the area parks. Ms. Sabel felt that a special
Thank You should be enclosed in the newsletter to those volunteers who have
worked on the parks and/or a thank you letter go out to each one from the
City Administrator.
Mr. Kinkade further recommended that sometime in October or November,
the Park Board meet with the Athletic Association and discuss plans for
next year.
REPORT FROH PARK CHAIRMAN
Chairman McMullen reported rece~v~ng $200 for a park dedication for
a lot split from Loretta Mason. Also, $1,410 was received for park dedica-
tion from Lund Evergreen Estates Third Addition. l1r. Stone reported that
Lund Evergreen Estates owes $1,400 more as soon as he developes the rest.
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Chairman McMullen reported receiving a letter dated July 31, 1987, from
Tim Bobineau, regarding no working lights on Andover tennis courts. Mr. Stone
stated that they are repaired and in working order now.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade,
seconded by Commissioner Strootman, and unanimously carried, that the meeting
adjourn. Meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mava Mikkonen, Secretary