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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
September 17, 1987
AGENDA
1. Call to Order 7:30 p.m.
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Resident Forum
4. Andover Commercial Park--preliminary Plat
5. Winslow Hills--Preliminary Plat
6. Report--Rum River Canoe Landing
7. Budget Work Session
8. Report from Public Works
9. Report from Park Chairman
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11. Adjourn
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CITY of ANDOVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 17, 1987
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation /
Commission was called to order at 7:37 p.m., Thursday, September 17, 1987,
in the meeting room adjacent to the Council Chambers, Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W., Andover, MN.
Commissioners present included: Chairman Marc McMullen, Gretchen Sabel,
Jeff Kieffer, and Larry Strootman (7:41 p.m.). Commissioner Stuart Kinkade
was absent. Staff present was Public Works Supervisor Frank Stone and
Todd Haas, Assistant to the City Engineer. Guests in attendance were
Charles Thompson, Mike Olson, and Gary Gorham.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion was made by Commissioner Sabel, seconded by Commissioner
that the meeting minutes of August 20, 1987, be approved as printed.
carried unanimously.
Kieffer,
Motion
RESIDENT FORUM
Charles Thompson and Mike Olson, residents of the Hidden Creek develop-
ment, submitted scale drawings of the suggested park layout for their area,
recommending that there be one ball park, a soccer field, a basketball court
if possible, tennis courts if possible, and a tot park, with emphasis on
the tot park because of the number of small children in the area.
Chairman McMullen stated a tot park would be a main objective and will
be proposing that the more colorful ones be installed.
(Commissioner Larry Strootman arrived - 7:41 p.m.)
Mr. Olson, resident living in lot 7 along Hidden Creek Drive, requested
that should the parking lot go in behind his property that there be some
evergreens or shrub planted as a buffer between his home and the parking lot.
The commission felt that was a legitimate request.
Chairman McMullen stated that the tennis courts would be an expensive,
future project. Frank stone, Public Works Supervisor, stated that the ball
field will go in this year, but soccer is not a high priority. Permanent
goals need to be ordered and installed yet this year.
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Chairman McMullen explained that the submitted drawings, Attachments A
and B, will be considered when implementing projects for next year's budgeted
funds. The Commission and staff would have further information by the end
of November.
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Park and Recreation Meeting Minutes
September 17, 1987
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ANOOVER COMMERCIAL PARK - PRELIMINARY PLAT
Assistant to the City Engineer Todd Haas addressed the issue regard-
ing the Andover Commercial Park. A map was reviewed and project discussed.
It was explained that as a Tax Increment Finance District, money would be
used to help the developer with certain aspects of their project. Under
city ordinance park dedication is required.
Motion was made by Commissioner Strootman, seconded by Commissioner
Kieffer, that the city accept cash in lieu of land for the Andover Commercial
Park preliminary plat. Motion carried unanimously.
WINSLOW HILLS - PRELIMINARY PLAT
Gary Gorham, Developer for Winslow Hills, was present outlining their
current status. They have presented their sketch plan for the entire 135
acres to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Council will soon be holding
a public hearing. The lots measure 90-100 ft. x 140 ft. There will be a
total of 395 homes. It will be a phased project because of the fact that
the MUSA line is in the area. Therefore, Mr. Gorham can presently only
develop a 40 acre parcel until such time as the MUSA line is expanded.
There will be 81 homes developed in this phase. Mr. Gorham stated that he
expected that number to decrease by approximately 12 lots from the current
sketch plan. It was further stated that the lots are large for drainage
purposes.
In discussing necessary park consideration, Ms. Sabel pointed out
that Oak Bluff is nearby, as is the school and city hall. Mr. strootman
concurred that parks may be needed later on in the development, but not in
the northeast corner. Mr. Kieffer felt there should at some point be tot
parks in the area so that children would not have to cross Hanson Blvd.
Mr. Gorham stated that they would have no objection to giving cash in lieu
of park land or in creating a park in the eastern portion.
Ms. Sabel pointed out the ponding area, suggesting that there be con-
sideration for using this for bike trails along it, tieing it in with bike
trails along the railroad tracks. Hr. Haas reported that the State is look-
ing for bike routes in this area for their bike trail maps. Noted for
future consideration.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kieffer, seconded by Commissioner
Strootman, that the city accept cash in lieu of land at Winslow Hills,
preliminary plat, to be determined in the usual manner of 10 per cent of
the land value. Motion carried unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS - HAWK RIDGE
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Mr. Haas requested Park Board consideration of staff's proposed over-
all layout of Hawk Ridge. A diagram was presented. Presently less than
half of the soccer field is cut and the other 2/3 is filled.
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September 17, 1987
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Having discussed the proposed plans, Mr. Haas recapped that the
commission wants the hockey moved further north even with the soccer field,
and the shelter and playground area are satisfactory. Commission concurred.
Mr. Haas presented bids for the Hawk Ridge Park for the commission's
review and consideration: North Pine Aggregate, Inc., $14,600 and Berton
Kraabel Construction, $15,432.30. This would include the grading of areas
marked on the diagram. Mr. Haas reported that the city will provide the
seed for the contractor to distribute in the disturbed areas. The only
thing not on the bid is class 5 and ag lime for the ball fields. This will
be a separate bid. Mr. stone stated that the contractor awarded the bid
will be made aware of the change in the hockey rink location.
Chairman McMullen stated that he would not be voting on the bid issue
due to a conflict of interest.
Having reviewed staff's recommended North Pine Aggregate bid, motion
was made by Commissioner Sabel, seconded by Commissioner strootman, to
recommend that city council award the bid for the proposed Hawk Ridge Park
development to North Pine Aggregate, Inc. with their bid coming in at $14,600.
Upon voice vote Commissioners Sabel, Strootman, and Kieffer voted yes.
Chairman McMullen withheld his voting privilege due to a conflict of interest.
Motion carried.
Further discussion was held regarding ag lime for the ball field and
class 5 for the parking lot, as well as putting down the clay base for the
hockey rink. Having agreed that that work be completed, Chairman McMullen
stated that that brings up expenditure for Hawk Ridge to approximately $22,000,
leaving $2,000 of the $24,000 allotted, remaining for that park this year.
Commissioner Sabel recommended doing the shelter with the remaining monies.
General con census of the commission and staff was that the grading and seed-
ing be done this year and that the $2,000 be carried over. Chairman McMullen
suggested ordering equipment in January and February to be used in the up-
coming year.
RID1 RIVER CANOE LANDING
Mr. Stone reported meeting with a representative of the Department of
Natural Resources recently. When reviewing the Andover boat landing at
Round Lake, this gentleman reportedly stated that they will write everything
up for what it costs, with staff imput, and they would furnish the materials
if someone else would supervise the job. Commissioner Sabel recommended
posting a sign limiting the horse power on the lake. Commission concurred.
When looking at the Rum River Canoe Trail, it was stated that the DNR
would come in and set up the canoe post next spring. Information on that
will be forthcoming.
DNR representative recommended using class 5 down the trail to River Forest.
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September 17, 1987
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Commissioner Strootman questioned whether Rum River Park is ready
for seeding. Mr. Stone confirmed that it is ready and will be dragged
after being seeded to alleviate some of the roughness.
Commissioner Sabel questioned the status of Prairie Knoll. Mr. stone
reported that it is looking good. They want to get some of the pond dirt
piled up to allow for drying to be used for compost. Staff will try to get
lighting put up for the skating rink and sliding this year.
Mr. Stone was unsure when they will be seeding the Rum River Park.
REPORT FROl1 PUBLIC WORKS
Mr. stone stated that he had nothing further to add other than his
department is attempting to get various projects completed yet this fall.
REPORT FROl1 PARK CHAIRMAN
Chairman McMullen reported having an appointment set up for Wednesday,
September 23, 1987, with the attorney regarding the tennis court issue.
Included in that meeting will be Todd Haas and perhaps Jim Elling. The
issue is being pursued.
The Park Board recessed at 8:35 p.m. to allow Chairman McMullen to
present the Hawk Ridge proposals before the city council presently in
session. The meeting was reconvened at 9:00 p.m.
BUDGET 'VORK SESSION
The commission concurred that a special meeting be called Thursday,
September 24, 1987, at 8:00 p.m., to work on the budget.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner
Kieffer, seconded by Commissioner Sabel, and unanimously carried, that the
meeting adjourn. The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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