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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust18, 1988 , '1 '--_/ , ') \..J o o .CJ\ CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - AGENDA AUGUST 18, 1988 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes 3. Residents Forum JL.(L-Y 2:; f {~"""~'\.l5t '1 4. Bent Creek Estates Park Dedication, cont. 5. Harstad Propert Sketch Plan Park Dedication 6. Fox Meadows Park, continued 7. Hidden Creek Park 8. Monthly Report - Finances of Park 9. 1989 Capital Budget Discussion, continued 10. Report from Chairman 11. Report from Public Works 12. 13. Adjournment o u CA. CITY of ANDOVER , J - ~ 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N,W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION AUGUST 18, 1988 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order at 8:04 p.m., Thursday, August 18, 1988, in the Council Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present included: Ron Ferris, Marc McMullen, Stuart Kinkade, Larry Strootman (late 8:25 p.m.) Staff present included: Assistant City Engineer Todd Haas. and Public Works Director, Frank Stone. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The approval of minutes (for regular meetings of July 28 and August 4) was tabled until the end of the meeting. RESIDENTS FORUM No residents were present to address any new issues. BENT CREEK ESTATES PARK DEDICATION. CONT. Todd Haas said the recommendation by staff was to accept cash in lieu of land, as there are three parks within walking distance. There was discussion about putting in a sidewalk for access into Hidden Creek Park (for residents in the 10 homes to be built). Paul Ruud, representing the County, stated that the County does allow sidewalks in the right of way and one could be put in along Bunker Lake Boulevard, as long as drawings are submitted and permits received. Todd Haas said money from the park dedication fees could be used to cover the cost of the sidewalk. Marc McMullen asked if the City could use asphalt for the sidewalk. It was suggested that by using asphalt, they'd be more maintenance involved, although the initial cost would be less expensive. " ; Motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner Ferris to accept cash in lieu of land for Bent Creek Estates, equivalent to be 1.2 acres of the raw market value of the land to be determined by Mr. Haas, pursuant to standard procedure. All voted yes. Motion carried unanimously. \. J o \ J Andover Park and Recreation Commission August 18, 1988 Minutes Page Two HARSTAD PROPERTY SKETCH PLAN PARK DEDICATION Todd Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission was requested to review and recommend park dedication for the proposed Harstad Property sketch plan and noted that there were two parks within walking distance already (Red Oaks East and Hills of Bunker Lake). Commissioner Ferris shared some concern that there is not that much park area in that particular area of 110 acres. Commissioner McMullen stated that the Commission would probably like about two acres of the development for a park, and the balance would be in cash. Mr. Kinkade stated that the area next to the protective wetland area might be a good area for the park. Mr. Harstad stated he would be returning with another updated sketch plan on September 1st. FOX MEADOWS PARK. CONT. Chairman McMullen reported that it was the City Council's request that the Park Commission reconsider the development of Fox Meadows. will go. An entrance from County Road would be allowable but the City have to make the determination on where the entrance would The options are: 1. To develop the master plan that was approved in May of 1987 (scheme "lc"). 2. To go with the proposed layout of Mr. Rankila (scheme "ld") . 3. To develop the plan where the entrance is off County Road 58 and the parking lot located at the existing intersection ("scheme 1e"). 4. To do nothing until the decision of the possible relocation of County Road 58 happens. J Mrs. Rankila stated her concern with the option to have the parking lot right in front of her property. She felt it would be better for the whole neighborhood to have the parking lot off the center of the park, off of Fox Street, as originally planned. Mrs. Rankila presented a new plan to the Park Commission. \ '- ) \ \.J I Andover Park and Recreation Commission August 18, 1988 Meeting Page Three The Rodgers, owners of lot 6, expressed a desire in plan "le" but would like to see a dirt berm built up so noise and view of the parking lot and its traffic would be lessened. Mrs. Rodgers did not agree with Mrs. Rankila's new plan, and feels the parking lot should be not be on Fox Street, and wanted to see the access onto County 58. Commissioner Ferris restated the purpose of the resident's original concern was to keep traffic off of Fox Street. The only safe access off of 58 would be Plan "le". Paul Ruud stated that after meeting with the City officials and the Rankilas, it was agreed that there could be an access off of County 58 in the northeast corner of the park. There was discussion on scheme "ld" and it was determined that Id would not have a safe entrance, and therefore not a feasible choice. Commissioner Ferris raised the question if the park entrance was off of Fox, would the speed limit be changed from the current 55 mph to a lower speed limit. Paul Ruud of Anoka County stated that the City would probably need to send a resolution to the Department of Transportation and request for them to study the flow of traffic and ask for a recommendation. The DOT would probably look at the current speed of traffic, the number of driveways, the alignment of the road, the amount of curves, etc. Also Mr. Ruud stated that the key to the possible relocation of County 58 will be a cooperative effort from both the City and the County. Larry Strootman, is in favor of "lc" to the put the entrance on Fox Street and a parking lot going away from the residence will be less visible. If the parking lot is put too close to County 58, it may ruin the sliding hill. J Ron Ferris wants to do what's best for the city and that the City has a safe entrance into the park. He has no problems with the original plan with the entrance off of 158th, but would be opposed to putting the parking lot off of 158th because of costs involved in having to move it. The original plan has probably the safest entrance and already has the parking lot aligned in a north-south direction and cuts down on the direct impact to any of the neighbors. The only way to get the traffic off of Fox Street would be go to with plan 1e, but otherwise he sees no reason to changing the original plan. / / \ Andover Park and Recreation Commission August 18, 1988 Page Four Stuart Kinkade is in favor of plan "le" and thinks the Park Board should investigate what the costs are in putting the parking lot in a north-south direction. Marc McMullen has no problems with plan "lc". His concern with 1c is the residents' concern to keep the traffic down on Fox Street. He feels that the parking lot as shown on 1e is the only way it could be located. He feels he could live with either plan. Todd Haas believes the safest plan would be the one off of Fox Street. Motion was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Kinkade to adopt Plan "le", however in doing so, we ask the Engineers to get bids and determine what the cost differential would be to have the parking lot east-west and also if it the parking lot was turned as currently shown on "le" 90 degrees so that it would be run north-south and take a look at it at the Park Board's next meeting; and what the impact would be to the layout--specifically to the sliding hill and also to the typography that's below the sliding hill in what's called the free play area in scheme "le"; and also to get a bid on putting a 6-foot berm on Fox Street side of the parking lot (north-south), which would have to be at the proper grade for maintenance. All voted yes. Motion carried. HIDDEN CREEK PARK Ron Ferris had visited the site and did notice that the kids go through the one resident's yard to get to the tot lot. Commissioner Ferris asked if the Park Board could consider moving the tot lot over to another location, to the northwest corner and it would not be in anyone's backyard. Frank Stone expressed concern about moving the tot lot and for the Park Board to be sure this is what they want to do. Frank thought it might cost $1,500 to take apart and $300 to re- cement it. Commissioner McMullen stated that the residents were also interested in swings for their park. He also recommended that the City should hold off moving the tot lot until further plans are known regarding the placement of the tennis court. This item will be put on the agenda to review the plan for the park. ~) u Andover Park and Recreation Commission August 18, 1988 Meeting Page Five RESCHEDULING OF REGULAR PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION Motion was made by Stuart Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner Ferris to move the regularly scheduled meetings of September 1st and 15th to September 8th and 22nd. All voted yes. Motion carried. MONTHLY REPORT - FINANCES OF PARK The Finances of Park - Monthly Report prepared by Shirley Clinton was reviewed. 1989 CAPITAL BUDGET A special work session was scheduled to review the 1989 Capital Budget for August 25th at 7:30 p.m. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner McMullen to adjourn at 10:00 p.m. All voted yes. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, (Park.7) "~J,~ d44~CL-L-de-~ ny (:jJllussen \