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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 21, 1988 ~ ) u -- ') "_J 7:30 P.M. o o CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100 REGULAR PARK BOARD MEETING - AGENDA APRIL 21, 1988 1. Call to Order 2. Resident Forum 3. Park Board Comprehensive Plan - continued 4. City Park Maps - discussion 5. Approve Park layout - Oak Bluff - continued 6. Deerwood Estates preliminary plat park dedication - continued 7. Old Colony Estates preliminary plat park dedication - continued 8. Monthly Report - finances of park 9. Softball and Soccer schedules - continued 10. Adjournment ***NOTE: The Park Board is meeting at Oak Bluff Park at 7:15 P.M. to view the parking lot site. o t' -, u () ,C}\ CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - APRIL 21, 1988 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chairman Marc McMullen on April 21, 1988,7:39 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Anderson, Ferris, Kieffer, Kinkade, Sabel, Strootman None City Assistant Engineer, Todd Haas Commissioners absent: Also present: (The Commissioners met on location at the Oak Bluff park prior to the meeting at City Hall.) APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION by Kieffer, Seconded by Kinkade, to accept the Minutes from April 7, 1988. Motion carried unanimously. RESIDENT FORUM Art Raudio asked that Items 6 and 7 be moved to the beginning of the Agenda so they can attend another meeting. MOTION by Sabel, Seconded by Anderson, to move Items 6 and 7 to the top of the Agenda. Motion carried unanimously. OLD COLONY ESTATES PRELIMINARY PLAT PARK DEDICATION Al Hammel, developer, stated they incorporated a tot lot in the area previously talked about. They redesigned the corner, removed the cui de sac, and put a tot lot in the center with two 3D-foot entrances. Because it is a neighborhood park, he felt a parking lot would not be needed. The Commissioners felt the entrances should be wider and were concerned about people walking through the back yards of the surrounding properties to get to the park. It was also noted the Comprehensive Park Plan recommends against taking parks in the middle of blocks as proposed. ,- ') '-- ~ ~ Park and Recreation Commission April 21, 1988 - Minutes Page 2 <> (Old Colony Estates Preliminary Plat Park Dedication, Continued) Mr. Hammel stated he would have no problem fencing around the park if the Park Board desires. He also felt it would be possible to widen the access points. Mr. Hammel reviewed the overall park proposal, including the passive recreation that could be incorporated in the 8-acre storm drainage system to the north which will be in some public ownership. Plus there will be 19 to 20 acres along the creek and this one-acre tot lot. Phase II wil I be to the north and east of Phase I. The access street to the east wil I be constructed as a part of Phase II, which is the area just outside the MUSA. It is their intent to get that area into the MUSA as soon as possible. Mr. Haas stated there was no recommendation from the Staff on the tot lot proposal. He thought the Park Board had wanted to be consistent with what was done in other plats. Several Commissioners were concerned about a landlocked park in the middle of a block. During the discussion that ensued with Mr. Hammel, various alternative locations were suggested to provide street access to the tot lot. Another suggestion was to develop Lots 12 and 1 at the end of Xeon for an entrance to the park along the creek. Mr. Hammel stated those would be the most attractive lots in the development. When discussing this previously, he thought the Park Board wanted something centrally located within the development. He was wil ling to go back and do something that would be more acceptable to the Park Board. The Commission agreed. MOTION by Kinkade, Seconded by Strootman, that we table this Item No.7 on Old Colony Estates until the May 5, 1988, meeting. Motion carried unanimously. DEERWOOD ESTATES PRELIMINARY PLAT PARK DEDICATION Art Raudio, 1404 South Broadway, Sauk Rapids, explained the property is owned by Alan Palos, and Rick Foster has a purchase agreement for the property. In reviewing this with the Staff, possible developments to the north and south were sketched. At that time it was the understanding that parkland would probably be taken on the north parcel when it develops in the future. Because of the sparse population in that area, it was felt cash should be taken now and parkland taken later. This is why Deerwood Estates is laid out as 10 lots, assuming cash in lieu of land for park dedication. He asked that the Commission concur with the Staff recommendation so the plat can proceed to the City Council on May 3 as scheduled. <> The Commission noted there are no parks in that area, thinking they should be looking to the future. The fear was if the area continues to develop in smaller 40-acre parcels, no parkland will ever be taken and that area wil I end up without a park. , / '- ~) Park and Recreation Commission April 21, 1988 - Minutes Page 5 (Approve Park Layout - Oak Bluff, Continued) MOTION by Ferris, Seconded by Anderson, that we ask Todd (Haas) to put a plan together which would have maximum use of the land but would be as close to Plan A that is safe and feasible as presented by Eugene Benson. DISCUSSION: Chairman McMullen was concerned about the safety with the access/exit as proposed on the curve in Plan A. He felt there is some sight problems. He preferred the driveway on the other end to help Mr. Benson out. Discussion was then on the size of the parking lot. It was agreed to grade the parking lot for 40 stalls, but to put Class 5 for only 30 stalls at this time, feeling the Class 5 area could be expanded in the future. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-No (McMullen) vote. MONTHLY REPORT - FINANCES OF PARK The Commission briefly reviewed the reports provided by the Treasurer. The Commission questioned the balance of each account, what amounts have already been committed, and how much is unal located. It was suggested from this point on, the Chairperson will maintain a running tally of how much has been approved and how much remains. In discussing the needs of some of the parks, it was recalled that the fees from Kensington Estates was to be spent in the Red Oaks East park. It was then suggested they meet on site at the Red Oaks East park on May 19 just prior to the regular Park Board meeting. SOFTBALL AND SOCCER SCHEDULES The Commission agreed with the schedules as shown. Mr. Haas had a question on the scheduling of the City Hall #1 field. Chairman McMullen stated he had that information and would drop it off for Mr. Haas. Mr. Haas stated he was called about scheduling more softball fields. The Commission stated the softball fieds are fil led, but there may be a possibility of getting another adult softball field at the River Forest park. COMMUNITY SERVICE BY ANOKA FOOTBALL TEAM Chairman McMullen stated he has been approached regarding the possibility of the Anoka footbal I team doing another community service project. Commissioner Sabel suggested cleaning up the dump at Kelsey park. The Commission agreed, directing Mr. Stone to have a rol I-off box put on site for them to clean up the trash in that area. I Commission recessd at 9:13; reconvened at 9:17 p.m. , I u Park and Recreation Commission April 21, 1988 - Minutes Page 6 PARK BOARD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Tim Erkkila, Westwood Planning and Engineering, developed the 1978 Park System Master Plan. He asked what priorities the Commissioner would have in updating the Comprehensive Park Plan. Several Commissioners indicated a need for accurate demographic projections for the next 10 to 15 years. Others indicated the existing plan Is no longer applicable and has not been followed very closely. Mr. Erkkila then reviewed his credentials in this area, noting the things he has done regarding plans and/or updated plans for various other cities. Since Andover's plan was done 10 years ago, there Is now a track record for Insight as to what should be proposed for the future. He suggested consideration be given to reviewing the park dedication ordinance with regard to what Is done in other municipal ities. Several Commissioner also felt that should be done, thinking Andover's park dedication is quite low compared to what is required in other cities. Mr. Erkkila stated no city has ever built a park system completely out of park dedication fees, referencing how systems were built in several other communities. He suggested the Commissioners take their time to think about what services should be provided, stating he would like to work with them on it. Mr. Erkkila was willing to work with the Commission on any terms, whether the Commission wants him to do all of it, have him do only certain portions of it with the Commissioners doing the rest, have those in his staff working on parts of it at a lower charge rate, or just using him in an advisory capacity. Or possibly the Park Board would prefer not do update the Park Plan right now but just work on specific tasks first, such as the demographics or the Park Dedication Ordinance. Afterwards, those would become part of the updated plan. Mr. Erkkila also presented everyone with copies of the Park Planning Qualifications brochure. He suggested the Park Board make a list of the issues, prioritize them, after which he can provide a quote for his services. It was suggested the needs for the Comprhensive Plan update be discussed at the next regular meeting; then meet with Mr. Erkkila one more time. Because the Commissioners felt the revision of the Park Dedication Ordinance was a priority item, Mr. Erkkila was asked to provide a quotation for that task. (Commissioners Sabel and Kinkade left at this time; 10:00 p.m.) Mr. Erkkila also noted It is generally more difficult to implement the Park Board plans without a full-time park director on staff who is always looking out after the interests of the Park Board. / , u "./ Park and Recreation Commission April 21, 1988 - Minutes Page 7 (Park Board Comprehensive Plan, Continued) The Commission agreed to review the existing Comprehensive Park plan, discuss it at the May 5 meeting, and meet with Mr. Erkkila again at the May 19 meeting. MOTION by Strootman, Seconded by Kieffer, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 2-Absent (Kinkade, Sabel) vote. Meeting adjourned at 10:06 p.m. Respectfully submitted, '~\O-~~ c,-<\~L Ma~ la A. Peach Recording Secretary