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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 13, 1988 o o ~J eTA CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES DECEMBER 13, 1988 The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Marjorie Perry at 7:30 p.m., Tuesday, December 13, 1988, in the Council Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Hinnesota. Commissioners present included Bev Jovanovich, d'Arcy Bosell, Becky Pease, Don Jacobson, Chairman Marjorie Perry. Also present was City Planner, Jay Blake. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The following corrections were made to the November 22, 1988 minutes: On page two, there is a typographical error in the second to the last paragraph for the word "property." Also, on page four, the word cold should be corrected to read "could." On page five, the fourth paragraph should be corrected to read, "Hs. Bosell noted that the PCA accepted the recommendation of the PCA staff. That gives the PCA Commissioner authority to issue an order which allows the State to go on the site and remove the tires." A HOTION was made by Commissioner Pease, seconded by Commissioner Jovanovich to approve the minutes of November 22, 1988 as amended. Hotion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present vote. PUBLIC HEARING: NORTH SUBURBAN CHURCH OF CHRIST. SPECIAL USE PERt-lIT Chairman Perry stated that Jay Blake had advised her that the North Suburban Church of Christ had withdrawn their request for a special use permit because of neighborhood concerns and also because of the cost of renovating that house into a public building. ~r--, ,--) 1 ~ u \ Andover Planning and Zoning Commission December 13, 1988 Meeting Minutes Page Two GOLF CART/MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIR ORDINANCE Jay Blake noted to the Commission that he did make a number of corrections to this ordinance -- he added the words on public roadways to the title of the ordinance, he deleted the definition of public lands, on page two he deleted some wording in regard to the operation of the special vehicle not being allowed between sunset and sunrise, and added a number 5 to the last paragraph on page two in regard to vehicle make and model. Commissioner Jacobson felt that on page 1, section 3, items A and B should be combined. It was agreed to make this correction to read, "No person shall operate a special vehicle within the right-of-way of any trunk, county state aid or county highway, or city street or public lands or property within the City of Andover, except as allowed under Section 4 of this Ordinance." Mr. Jacobson asked if the definition of wheelchair (on the 1st page of the ordinance), with the wording "or similar device" was pulled from the State Statute, and that those two words may pose some future problems. Ms. Bosell recommended that on page one, section 1B, should be revised as follows: "Physically Handicapped - any person who has sustained an amputation or material disability in any manner rendering it both difficult and burdensome to walk, as defined by M.S. 169.345." Also then page two, section 4C, item 5 should be revised to read, "Operation limited to persons identified as handicapped." Mr. Jacobson also had a concern regarding the fact that there was no wording indicating a minimum age to obtain a permit of this type. Ms. Pease recommended that the age of the applicant be included on the application form. Mr. Blake indicated that Attorney Hawkins would be reviewing this document to make sure it meets the legal requirements. Commissioner Pease stated that a correction should be made on page two, section 4B, last sentence to indicate that the permanent record of all special operator's permits will be maintained and annually reviewed by the City Clerk (not by the Planning and Zoning Commission.) '\ ''-..../ o Andover Planning and Zoning Commission December 13, 1988 Meeting Minutes Page Three Ms. Bosell suggested that on page 2, section C4, item 5, should be corrected to read, "Applicant must provide physician's verification of handicapped status and ability to safely operate a special handicapped vehicle." Also an item 6 should be added to read, "Applicant must provide the vehicle make and model." Then, the old number six would become number seven now. Mr. Jacobson also recommended to revise on page 2, section 4B, to delete the words daylight hours and insert instead the words specified hours. Also, on page 3, in the signature area, the name of the mayor's name should be corrected. A MOTION was made by Commissioner Jacobson, seconded by Commissioner Bosell that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council adoption of the ordinance adopting regulations for the operation of golf carts and motorized wheelchairs by handicapped citizens on public roadways within the City of Andover. The Planning and Zoning Commission, after lengthy study, has determined that the above mentioned ordinance is reasonable and proper for the transportation of handicapped people within the City of Andover, and would not have an adverse effect on traffic flows on any city roadways. A public hearing is not required. The Commission finds that the adoption of this ordinance while benefitting a few people in the city, will provide access for the handicapped, an option that might not be available without this ordinance and recommend adoption by the City Council. No discussion. All voted yes, motion carried unanimously. This item will go to the City Council on January 3rd. ORDINANCE 10 GENERAL AMENDMENTS Jay Blake brought to the Commission's attention the memo from Frank Stone enclosed in the meeting packet, indicating Mr. Stone's concern regarding the cul-de-sac size. Mr. Stone indicated in his memo that he would like to see this section stay as written, as the larger cul-de-sac allow for easier snow- plowing during the winter season. Also, there was a concern raised by Mr. Sowada that some fire department equipment might have a difficult time in smaller size cul-de-sacs. " .' \ u ~) \ Andover Planning and Zoning Commission December 13, 1988 Meeting Minutes Page Four Also Mr. Blake indicated that John Rodeberg suggested that Andover try to preserve the 13-1/2 feet right of way for utilities. Ms. Perry asked Mr. Blake what other cities use as standard size for cul-de-sacs. Ms. Bosell stated that there seems to be a problem in that developers are preparing plats and showing the right of way that the city requires, but that the street plans are prepared by TKDA (and inspected by the city engineers, and public works department). The as-builts do not meet the city standards for cul-de-sacs. A MOTION was made by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council enforcement of Ordinance 10, Section 99.03G pertaining to cul-de-sac width and that the engineering firms designing the street layouts adhere to the 100-foot cul-de-sac as required in that Ordinance. It was further recommended that this section be modified to read, "as presented by the staff. as it pertains to measuring the maximum length of the cul-de-sac." All voted yes, motion carried. This item will go to the City Council on January 3rd. Mr. Blake also reviewed the minor city street and municipal state aid street right-of-way minimum width. A MOTION was made by Commissioner Jacobson, seconded by Commissioner Pease that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council adoption in the change of Ordinance 10, Section 9.03 in the Classification of Right of Way of Minor City Streets to conform from 50 to 60 feet and Right of Way Municipal State Aid Streets to conform to 66 feet. The Commission finds that State Statute 8820.2500 subp.3 is greater than what has been required by the city and this change would make the city in compliance. All voted yes. Motion carried. This item will go to the City Council on January 3, 1988. \ A MOTION was made by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pease to table the remaining sections of this ordinance (Metes and Bounds Description) until the next regularly scheduled Planning meeting. All voted yes. Motion carried. ~-) , \ ~-) '. Andover Planning and Zoning Commission December 13, 1988 Meeting Minutes Page Five SCHEDULING OF NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING Because there were no new agenda items at this time, it was agreed to reschedule the next Planning and Zoning Meeting to January 10th. SIGN ORDINANCE. SECTION 3.02 DEFINITIONS Chairman Perry stated that because the sign ordinance was a large one, that the Commission would be reviewing this the ordinance in sections. The definitions would be covered as the first item of discussion. Jay Blake suggested that the definition section of this ordinance should be placed in the beginning of the ordinance. The following corrections were made to the draft of this ordinance: Under Section 3.02 Definitions, first page, it was recommended by Mr. Jacobson to delete the lot frontage paragraph from the ordinance. Also on the first page, it was suggested to delete the word figure in the last sentence of the section titled Sign Area. On the second page, it was recommended by Mr. Jacobson to combine the Sign, Unsightly and Sign, Unsightly Painted sections. Also, it was recommended to delete on the top of page three, the Sign, Ground sentence. On the Sign, Illuminated paragraph on page three, it suggested by Ms. Bosell that it be revised to read -- "Any sign which has characters, letters, figures, designs or outlines illuminated by electric lights." It was also agreed to combine the Sign, Identification paragraphs. Under the Sign, Wall definition, the words exposed face or should be changed to read exposed face of. '\ ; / ': -,' Andover Planning and Zoning Commission December 13, 1988 Meeting Minutes Page Six On the memo from Jay Blake, the following corrections should be made: Under Changeable Message sign, the wording should be revised to read, "A sign which has a reader board where copy changes." It was agreed to leave the free-standing sign, the portable sign, the address sign, and the abandoned sign definitions in the current ordinance. It was suggested to change the Motion Sign paragraph to read, "The definition is the same as Andover's Motion (instead of Revolving) Sign." It was also agreed to revise the Bench Sign definition as follows: "A sign which is affixed or engraved to a bench at a bus stop." In addition, it was recommended to delete the institutional sign definition from the ordinance. A ~OTION was made by Ms. Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pease to continue this discussion on the Sign Ordinance at the next regular Planning Meeting. All voted yes. Motion carried. ADJOURNMENT A MOTION was made by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Jacobson to adjourn the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting at 9:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, a&/7t?Ud-CJ~ (Plan.16)