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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 22, 1988 o u 8'~ CITY of ANDOVER Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting November 22, 1988 - Minutes The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Marjorie Perry at 7:35 p.m., Tuesday, November 22, 1988 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Vistad Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Bosell, Bernard, Jovanovich, Pease, Jacobson Jay Blake, City Planner Approval of Minutes November 8, 1988 MOTION by Vistad, seconded by November 8, 1988 as written. present (Pease) vote. Bernard to approve the minutes of Motion carried on a 5 yes, 1 Chairman Perry presented copies of brochures from several cities and noted that Jay Blake will be marketing our commercial park. Sign Ordinance update Discussion Mr. Blake explained that he is looking for direction on how we can improve the sign section of our Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Pease questioned whether a sign giving a person's name and address that is in front of their house is covered in this ordinance. Mr. Blake explained that it is listed as a permitted sign in a residential area. It is an identification sign. Commissioner Bosell noted that we have not required permits for these signs but limit them to one and a half square feet. Mr. Blake suggested defining which types of signs would require a fee and also add a clause under Section 8.07 (A) that says that residential identification signs do not require a fee. He noted that there are many signs in the city and it's not clear whether the Council wants us to pursue the enforcement of them. ~) " / "~ Regular Planning Commission Meeting J November 22, 1988 - Minutes Page 2 Sign Ordinance, Cont. Ms. Pease questioned whether "no hunting" and "no trespassing" signs require permits. Mr. Blake stated that they are temporary and have been treated as such. Commissioner Vistad felt that the salaries paid staff should cover the cost of the permits. Mr. Blake explained that the fee is a user fee rather than a general fee. The fees that we charge are a lot less than other cities charge. Commissioner Jovanovich asked why no one has done anything about the sign at the intersection of Bunker and Round Lake Boulevards that advertises fishing tackle. Chairman Perry stated that many times the city has waited until there is a complaint before any action is taken. As the city develops more there will be more staff who will be able to take care of these things. She didn't feel that the city has been overstaffed and there are so many things that could be taken care of with more staff. Ms. Bosell noted that she has been directed by the Council to wait for someone to complain before she takes action. Discussion centered on signs allowed on vacant lots, with Mr. vistad noting that 4 square feet per lot frontage is allowed in Neighborhood Business areas, which would mean that if you have four lots, you could have 20 square feet of sign. Mr. Blake noted that you would be allowed 16 square feet of sign. Ms. Perry felt that if we do not want multiple signing we should have a maximum square footage. She suggested adding a clause that no more than x number of signs are allowed on a property. Ms. Bosell recommended limiting signs in residential districts to one. Ms. Perry asked what a non-residential sign would be if it is not an advertising sign. Mr. Blake explained that a business identification sign on the property is a non-residential sign; an advertising sign is a sign not on the proeprty where the business is located. Ms. Perry suggested that for the next meeting, the Commissioners should take the time to read the ordinance and come back with any questions they have on definitions. , , , )' ~- u \ ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting November 22, 1988 - Minutes Page 3 Ordinance 10 General Amendments Jay Blake explained that there were four different issues that we talked about updating, one of which is metes and bounds descriptions. Dave Almgren, the Building Official, had concerns on that. Mr. Vistad thought that the purpose of this was so people had to come in for lot splits so that they didn't interrupt any new roads that would be planned for the future. Mr. Blake also noted that we need to review the property to see that the land can be subdivided later on. Mr. Blake noted that another concern with Ordinance 10 is the width of cul-de-sacs. TKDA has been doing 93 foot cul-de-sacs and the ordinance requires 100 feet. John Rodeberg's recommendation would be to be consistent and have 13.5' utility easements on either side of the cul-de-sac and have 93 feet of blacktop area instead of 10' utility easements and 100 feet of blacktop. Frank stone, the Public Works Superintendent, stated that he would prefer the 100 feet of blacktop, but the 93 feet doesn't present a problem for him. Mr. Blake will obtain a report on this item from Mr. Stone. Minor Street Right-of-way Widths was discussed, with Mr. Blake suggesting that the 50 foot right-of-way requirements be changed to 60 feet. Contiguous buildable land - Mr. Blake noted that we had a developer who had 39,000 square feet of buildable land but it was in about seven different locations on the parcel. The 39,000 squre feet should be contiguous. Golf Cart/Motorized Wheelchair Ordinance Mr. Blake noted that discussion at the last meeting indicated that we should adopt an ordinance that would allow handicapped individuals to operate golf carts and motorized wheelchairs. Mr. Vistad asked if anyone had checked with an attorney on putting restrictions on wheelchairs. According to this ordinance, you need the city's permission to go anywhere in a wheelchair. Chairman Perry didn't feel we are being discrimin- atory with our restrictions. Other cities have totally banned ATVs, golf carts and motorized wheelchairs. \ i \ / ~~ Regular Planning Commission Meeting November 22, 1988 - Minutes Page 4 Chairman Perry suggested having some wording that it's a vehicle designated by medical professionals for the use of physically handicapped individuals. This item was continued to the next meeting. Diseased Tree Ordinance Mr. Blake noted that he, Bill Bernard and Ray Sowada were at a meeting regarding the pines in our area and what is happening to them. His impression was that we have another tough year ahead of us. There are two methods to get rid of the beetles. One is to water the trees and the other is a trap that gives off a scent, attracts the beetles and the beetles go in the trap and die. The traps are between $30 and $40 each. As far as the ordinance, Ray Sowada has some concerns that he wants addressed. Mr. Blake wanted to find out if Ray could go out and issue citations. Ms. Perry noted that the language is in place for him to get rid of the nuisance. Ms. Bosell suggested asking the Council if they want Mr. Sowada to have the power to issue citations. Jay will request Ray Sowada to come to a work session to discuss this with the Planning Commmission. Ms. Perry asked if we cold add to the existing ordinance a section that would prohibit the trimming of oak trees by public utilities during the critical times. Commissioner Bernard felt that they could put pine tar on the cuts and that way they could cut the trees when their schedule permits. planner's Report Mr. Blake explained that we have been working to get something done with the Commercial Park. There are two businesses open now and a woman has an option on two lots for a medical office building. street lighting in the commercial park has been approved by the city but has not been installed as yet. Also, the Council has decided that rather than listing the properties with one real estate company, they are going to open it up to a percentage sales commission. The Planning Commission budget for 1989 was increased by 4%. Mr. Blake noted that there is money in that budget for conferences, meetings, etc. Next year, we are going to introduce a new budget for economic development. ", ; , / Regular Planning Commission Meeting November 22, 1988 - Minutes Page 5 planner's Report, cont. Mr. Blake noted that the Planning Commission is under budget for this year. The amendment to Ordinance 8 adopted by the City Council. buildings will be allowed in boundary. regarding accessory structures was This amendment states that no pole an R-4 district in the MUSA The City Council did not adopt the amendment increasing the lot width and setback requirements. The Special Use Permits for Andover Limited Partners and Woodland Creek were passed. Commissioner Vistad asked what is being done on the tires. Ms. Bosell noted that the PCA accepted the recommendation of the staff. That gives the Commissioner authority to issue an order to allow the tire operator to go on the site and remove the tires. Chairman Perry declared the meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, /-- / - / I, D.JJ-- ! .-tV Vicki Volk Acting Commission Secretary