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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - AGENDA
SEPTEMBER 13, 1988
8:01 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes; August 9th & 23rd
3. Larry Braun Special Use Permit, continued
4. High Risk Sexual Conduct Ordinance, continued
5. Lot Split (Adler)
6. Dreher Special Use Permit Public Hearing,
Outlot A, Hidden Creek 2nd Addition
7. Variance (Hoffman)
8. Set Special Planning & Zoning Meeting
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10. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 13, 1988
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Marjorie Perry
at 8:00 p.m., Tuesday, September 13, 1988, in the Council
Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W.,
Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present included Chairman Marjorie Perry, Bev
Jovanovich, Wayne Vistad, d'Arcy Bosell, and Bill Bernard. Also
present was Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Bernard to approve the minutes of August 9, 1988.
All voted yes. Motion carried.
There was discussion on the August 23rd minutes. Wayne
Vistad had a correction on page three -- his vote should have
been a "no" vote, and Commissioner Bernard's "no" vote should
have been a "yes" vote. Also on page 12, sixth paragraph -- it
should be stated that Tonson, Incorporated (instead of Recycling)
is not in compliance due to the violation of items 1, 3 and 4 as
listed in the agenda and also to make the same correction for the
last paragraph.
Commissioner Bosell stated that she wanted a correction made
in regard to page 10 indicating that she carried the information
regarding the Tonson agenda item to the Planning Commission, as
Zoning Administrator. Also it was requested that the first
paragraph on page 11 of the minutes be moved to be put under
Tonson, Incorporated on page 10.
Motion was made by Commissioner Jovanovich to approve the
August 23rd minutes. Commissioner Jovanovich withdrew her motion
to approve the minutes because she was not present at the August
23rd meeting.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Bernard, seconded by
Commissioner Vistad to approve the minutes of the August 23, 1988
Planning Commission meeting. Three yes votes, two present.
Motion carried.
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LARRY BRAUN SPECIAL USE PERMIT, CONTINUED
Todd Haas stated that this item was tabled from the
August 9th Planning Commission meeting to determine if Mr. Braun
could comply and continue Hith the Special Use Permit. Also, the
commissioners Here handed a letter from Mr. Braun's attorney,
Charles Philipsek.
Larry Braun did indicate that the windows were inspected.
It was stated by Commissioner Bosell that it would be
necessary for Mr. Stephen Nemeth (property owner) to sign the
special use permit request form, Mr. Philipsek stated he would
contact Mr. Nemeth to make this request. Chairman Perry stated
that a letter from Nemeth stating that he was aware of this
request would be sufficient.
Also, ~ls. Bosell stated the City Hould need a copy of the
purchase agreement, with the appropriate signatures. She also
stated that only one stub fee and one connection fee has been
paid.
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Motion was made by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by
Commissioner Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the special
use permit request made by Larry Braun on the property identified
as 2722 - 134th Avenue NW to allow the continuance of a multiple
residence in a single-family dHelling unit. This home was
constructed in approximately 1961 and at that time its use was
multiple dwelling and has been continued to this day. The
applicant has brought the lower level of the home into compliance
with the Uniform Building Code, Section 3.02 (1) as it applies to
the bedroom windoHs. Plans have been submitted to City Hall and
inspection thereof has been made and smoke detectors have been
relocated pursuant to the letter from the Building Official dated
December 15, 1982. This special use permit would be contingent
on the City receiving the additional assessment for one sewer
stub and one sewer connection charge applicable to this
residence. This request is recommended for approval because the
use was grandparented in and falls in under Ordinance 8, Section
4.10 Lawfully Existing Non-Conforming Uses. A public hearing was
held, and there was input received from the neighbors as it
concerned the change in residency, but it was felt that concern
in and of itself was not enough reason to turn down the request.
It is also recommended that this item does not go on to City
Council unless a statement from Mr. Nemeth, or the purchase
agreement with his signature is received. All voted yes. Motion
carried. This item will be on the City Council agenda October 4.
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HIGH RISK SEXUAL CONDUCT ORDINANCE. CONTINUED
Todd Haas stated that this item was tabled from the August
9th Planning meeting to allow the City Attorney to review the
proposed ordinance and incorporate the necessary language to
include the City of Andover. Also there has been additional
information provided to the Commissioners on activities at the
Vapors. The U.S. District Court challenge of the Minneapolis
ordinance was not successful.
Chairman Perry opened the public hearing.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Jovanovich to close the public hearing. All voted
yes. Motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Bosell that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends to the City Council to approve the
Ordinance Relating to Contagious Diseases and High-Risk Sexual
Conduct as so written.
Commissioner Bosell questioned why there is not a penalty if
Article 3 of the ordinance has been violated. She reiterated
that if it was one of the concerns that high-sexual activity was
being conducted in any building, that it should not be allowed to
continue, and there should be a penalty; otherwise they could re-
engage in the activity. Chairman Perry stated that on page 6,
(d) it states that "If, within thirty (30) days from the issuance
of orders to the management, owner or tenant of the hazardous
site, the Health Officer determines that such corrective measures
have not been undertaken, then the Health Officer may order the
abatement of the hazardous site as a public nuisance."
Commissioner Bosell asked Chairman Perry if she could verify with
the City Council if it was the intent to state in the ordinance
that the penalty deal with only the posted notice and not with
the activity talked about in the paragraph above.
Roll Call: All commissioners voted yes. Motion carried.
This item will go to the Council on October 4th.
LOT SPLIT (ADLER)
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Todd Haas stated that the proposed lot split is currently
zoned R-4, Single Family Urban and is located outside the current
Metropolitan Urban Service Area (MUSA) an the lot contains 39,000
square feet of land which is buildable.
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There is a problem with the frontage -- there is a
requirement of 300' and that is required for a 2-1/2 acre lot and
it would be 165' if it was split.
Ms. Bosell stated Mr. Adler needs 108,900 square feet and
300 feet of frontage and the property is not in the MUSA area.
She does not see any vehicle by which a lot split could be
granted as there appears to be no hardship evident.
Marlene Adler stated that she talked with Ms. Bosell about
the procedures for a lot split. She stated they were told that
they would not be getting water and sewer until 1992 according to
a meeting with the City Attorney and other City officials.
Thomas Adler asked then if it was true that they couldn't build
on anything smaller than 2-1/2 acres until the year 2,000.
Chairman Perry stated that was correct unless there was a change
in the MUSA boundaries.
Chairman Perry asked if the Adlers would be interested in
withdrawing their request, and the monies not spent could be
refunded or another option would be to make a recommendation to
the City Council. The Adlers preferred to have the Planning
Commission vote on this item.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded
Commissioner Bernard that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends to the City Council denial of the lot split
of the property located at 1480 Andover Boulevard for Marlene and
Thomas Adler for the following reasons: The property is not in
the current Metropolitan Urban Service Area (MUSA). It is
outside of the future MUSA boundaries, it does not conform to
Ordinance 10, Section 9.06 a (3) wherein it starts it IVould have
to be a 2-1/2 acre parcel to be developed. If the Council saIV
fit to grant this request, the Commission IVQuld like to see the
follolVing items attached:
That lot contain at least 39,000 square feet of
buildable land area.
A dedication of Right-of-Way is recommended to be made
to the County of Anoka of 60 feet from the section
line.
The applicant provide the City a neIV certificate of
title and new legal description.
Park dedication of $200 to be paid at time of approval.
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Chairman Perry stated it would be proper make a motion to
recommend approval with conditions attached and then the vote
would indicate to the City Council if there was support for that
motion.
Commissioner Vistad withdrew his motion, approved by the
seconder.
~otion was made by Commissioner Vistad restated his motion,
seconded by Commissioner Bernard that the Andover Planning and
Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of the
request of lot split at 1480 Andover Boulevard by Thomas and
Marlene Alder for the lot split into a one-acre parcel for the
following reasons:
That lot contain at least 39,000 square feet of
buildable land area.
A dedication of Right-of-Way is recommended to be made
to the County of Anoka of 60 feet from the section
line.
The applicant provide the City a new certificate of
title and new legal description.
Park dedication of $200 to be paid at time of approval.
Roll call: Bill Bernard-no, Wayne Vistad-no, Bev
Jovanovich-no, D'Arcy Bosell-no, Chairman Perry-no (because
according to the ordinances, it was be necessary to have 108,900
square feet, 300 feet of frontage because this property is not in
the MUSA boundary). This item will go to the Council on
October 4, 1988 with 5-no, O-yes votes.
DREHER SPECIAL USE PERMIT PUBLIC HEARING. OUTLOT A, HIDDEN CREEK
2ND ADDITION
This is a request by Dreher and Associates for the
installation of gas tanks and motor fuel on the property known as
Outlot A of Hidden Creek 2nd Addition.
The Andover Review Committee will review the site plan in
more detail when the applicant is ready to start construction.
Commissioner Bosell asked the developer if he intended to
put propane tanks In. The response was no.
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Chairman Perry opened the public hearing.
Dick Dreher, President of Dreher and Associates, 5275 Edina
Industrial Boulevard, made a couple of comments regarding his
special use permit request. Mr. Dreher stated it was his
intention that the development would be owned long term by his
company and it was his desire to be a "good citizen" of the City
of Andover. He mentioned he had met with some of the neighbors
surrounding the proposed location of the retail center to bring
some of their concerns out into the open and these things could
be incorporated into their final plan. This would be a small
retail center of 11,300 square feet and would meet the needs of
the neighborhood. Mr. Dreher wanted it to go on record that the
kinds of retail services the City could expect to see would be a
superette (a single-pump island), a video store, a barber, a
chiropractor.
Tim Allen, 13677 Xavia Street, spoke about his uncertainty
why a neighborhood grocery area would be needed and he didn't
want to see a gas station in that location. There's a danger of
explosion as it's right near his house.
Susan Manlock, 2435 136th Lane NW, is concerned about the
drainage easement if this area is developed. Todd Haas indicated
that the natural drainage for that lot is going into direction of
Mrs. Manlock's property. Chairman Perry stated that the
ordinances require and in the development process, it must be
assured that water must not be increased onto other property
locations.
Commissioner Perry stated that at the time of the plat was
approved, this parcel as an outlot was discussed as being a
potential commercial site.
Doug Manlock, asked why this neighborhood center didn't go
on Verdin Street. Chairman Perry indicated this was not an
appropriate location and it was recommended that the corner lot
for a neighborhood business center was more appropriate. Mr.
Manlock asked if the voice of the citizens really mattered.
Chairman Perry stated that yes, it did and recommended that the
concerned neighbors follow this item up by continuing to attend
meetings, and voice their suggestions. She also stated that the
Council members are elected by the residents, and that they are
sincerely interested in what the residents think and in their
concerns.
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Mr. Dreher wanted to assure the neighborhood that the
drainage plan they come up is addressed by not only city staff
but the neighbors who might be affected.
Ed Ribkis, 13659 Xavia Street wanted to ask the Planning
Commission to communicate and require Good Value Homes to inform
the future residents of the area how things have been platted
out.
Chairman Perry stated that Good Value Homes has not been the
firm that has sold each of these homes, and it has been difficult
for them to know what other realtors may tell future homeowners.
Arthur Matla, 13670 Xavia Street, asked who would really
benefit from this development.
Don Solenbak, 2449 136th Street, doesn't disapprove of this
property being developed as proposed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Bosell to close the public hearing. All voted yes.
Motion carried.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Bernard that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends to the City Council approval of the special
use permit requested by Dreher and Associates for the
installation of gas tanks and motor fuel on the property known as
Outlot A of the Hidden Creek, 2nd Addition. Pertinent to
Ordinance 8, Section 7.03 and 4.26, this request is allowed in a
Neighborhood Business District. In reference to the service
station, the requirement is that 2,000 sq. feet of retail space
be constructed prior to the time that service pumps be installed
and it is the intent of the developer to meet that requirement.
A public hearing was held, and there was opposition to the
request before the Planning Commission. The site plan will be
reviewed by the Andover Review Committee at the time of
development and will pertain to such items as parking,
requirement setbacks, green space, etc. All voted yes. Motion
carried.
This item will go to the Council on October 4th.
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VARIANCE/HOFFMAN
The Planning Commission was requested to review the request
for a sign to exceed the maximum square footage allowed per
Ordinance 8, Section 8.07.
Chairman Perry confirmed that the ordinance indicated 24
square foot requirement for a sign in a residential area, and the
sign could be 10 feet high from ground level.
She asked Mr. Hoffman if he had considered a sign of lesser
dimensions. Mr. Al Hoffman said they could consider an 8' x 8'
sign.
Commissioner Bosell stated there was another sign off of
Hanson (North Lexington) that will have to be taken down because
it was illegally put up and does not meet the requirements of
size in Ordinance 8. Commissioner Bosell suggested that the
Hoffmans could put more than one sign on their property, and this
would still meet with the ordinance requirements.
Chairman Bosell indicated that there are no hardships that
could be used in granting this variance.
Chairman Perry asked if the applicant would want to withdraw
his request, then he could get his fee refunded if no monies were
spent.
The commissioners indicated they would vote no on this
motion, giving Mr. Hoffman an opportunity to withdraw his
request. Chairman Perry stated that because Mr. Hoffman was
representing a corporation, the request could be tabled so he
would have time to review this item with the officers of the
corporation.
Motion was made by Commissioner Vistad, seconded by
Commissioner Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends that this item be tabled to the next
Planning meeting or if the Hoffman Brothers Sod choose to
withdraw their application, they could notify the City in writing
by that time. All voted yes. Motion carried.
Commissioner Bernard suggested that Mr. Hoffman work with
the sign company in developing a sign to achieve the 24 foot
square feet, in accordance with the ordinance.
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SPECIAL MEETING
It was agreed by Commission members to have a special
meeting on October 4th to discuss: Ordinance 8, Mining
Vegetation Permits, Ordinance as it pertains to non-conforming
structures and their enlargement, and to meet new City Planner.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made by Commissioner Bernard, seconded by
Commissioner Vistad to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting at
10:22 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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