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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING _ AGENDA
JULY 26, 1988
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Red Oaks Manor 6th Addition Sketch Plan,
Continued
4. All-Terrain Vehicle/Snowmobile Ordinance Public
Hearing, Continued
5. Non-Domesticated Animal Ordinance Public
Hearing, Continued
6. Ordinance 8 (Zoning Ordinance) Amendment Public
Hearing, Continued
7. Ordinance 40 (Lot Split Ordinance) Amendment
8. Ordinance 10 (Subdivision and Platting
Ordinance) Amendment, Continued
9. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JULY 26. 1988
M !NUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Margorie Perry on July 26, 1988, 7:30
p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Commissioner absent:
Also present:
Bernard, Bosell, Jacobson, Jovanovich, Pease
Vistad
City Planner, Daryl Morey; and Assistant City
Engineer, Todd Haas
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 7. 1988: Correct as written.
MOTION by Jovanovich, Seconded by Pease, approval as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
July 12. 1988: Page 5, Line 5, nvisual" to be deleted and replaced
with "river"
Chairperson Perry asked for a motion to approve the Minutes as
amended.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. Motion
carried on a 5-Yes (Bernard, Jacobson, Jovanovich, Pease, Perry),
I-Present (Bosell) vote.
RED OAKS MANOR 6TH ADDITION SKETCH PLAN. CONTINUED
Chairperson Perry reported the progress made by a committee represent-
ing several cities and churches which is lookIng Into senIor cItizen
housIng in Andover. But they wIll not have any recommendations for
some tIme. CommissIoner Jacobson was concerned about the request for
rezonIng of this area; thInkIng Is is one of the last areas left for
multIple use. He dId note, however, that senior cItIzen housIng is in
the master plan of the Meadowcreek Church.
Discussion was on the rezoning request for this property from Limited
Business to R-4 residential. Mr. Morey reported the City has also
received a sketch plan for the property east of this which is also
calling for single family and some commercial. He too noted there
would be very little area left in the MUSA area for mulitple zoning.
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~ Mr. Haas noted a rezoning would entail an amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan which has to be approved by the Planning
Commission, the Andover Council, and Metropolitan Council.
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Planning and 20ning Commission
Minutes - July 26, 1988
Page 2
(Red Oaks Manor 6th Addition Sketch Plan, Continued)
Mr. Haas stated the Review Committee looked at the plan, which was
generally acceptable. They did recommend a road alignment for Quinn
Street that would match into the commercial area to the south of
Bunker Lake Boulevard to provide a full intersection. Then when it
warrants, the intersection could be signalized. The Committee had no
problem with the proposed cui de sac even though it exceeds the
500-foot requirement and a variance would be needed. They felt it
provided a buffer between the residents and the commercial area south
of Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Haas continued that the Committee is also aSking that the grading
work in with the 5th Addition, which was a requirement of the 5th.
The Review Committee didn't consider the rezoning in any great detail,
thinking an R-4 zone fit in very well with the surrounding area.
Usually a rezoning is considered at the same time as the preliminary
plat. The plat will be served with municipal sanitary sewer and water.
Commissioner Bosell stated a lot of thought was given to rezoning the
area to Limited Business in 1980, stating the residents were in favor
of that zoning. By changing it to R-4, it leaves very little LB
zoning left in the City. Sh~ ~lsQ [~lt LB would be better across from
the tire pile and Junkyards rather than residential, stating she
agrees with the rezoning done in 1980.
Art Raudlo. developer - stated the only reason they purchased this
property was so it would work in with the grading In the 5th Addition.
He felt they can market that property as residential and that they
could not compete with the commercial park if it remained LB.
Mr. Morey explained the Intent in the commercial area was to do any
rezoning at the time a property owner came in with a sketch plan
according to the plat; otherwise it will stay as it is presently
zoned.
Discussion was then on the proposed street alignments. Mr. Haas
explained the consultant felt the alignment in the commercial park
could be moved as proposed, the intent being to build the roads and
parking lots over the hazardous waste areas and keep the buildings off
the nhot spots". With the proposed alignment, there would eventually
be three full intersections along Bunker Lake Boulevard between Verdin
and Hanson Boulevard.
Commissioner Jacobson then proposed a street alignment to eliminate
the long cui de sac and bringing Quinn back into the alignment of the
original plan, and no lots would be lost. Mr. Raudio noted there is a
high hill with many oak trees where the proposed cui de sac is, though
he agreed to look at it more closely.
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Minutes - July 26, 1988
Page 3
(Red Oaks Manor 6th Addition Sketch Plan, Continued)
Discussion returned to the rezoning issue. Commisioner Jacobson again
expressed concern of eliminating al I areas that could be used for
senior citizen housing, though he thought the single family zone
filled out the area north of Bunker Lakp. Rnulevard. Also, the
businesses south of Bunker Lake Boulevard are existing and will not be
a surprise to those buying lots In this plat. In discussing the zoning
In the surrounding area, especially what would be the remaining LB
zones, Commissioner Jacobson noted UPA has purchased about 15 acres of
the property where Jellison's homestead Is located with the intent of
building a larger substation In the future.
Mr. Morey stated from a planning aspect, the LB zoning In the City
should be looked at further If this Is rezoned to either eliminate it
or expand it elsewhere. But he too agreed an R-4 zone In this area is
part of a contiguous pattern to fill out that area. In envisioning
the future of the commercial park, he felt the development will move
rather quickly once the hazardous waste issue Is resolved. With the
frontage road, berming and landscaping, he felt the two areas could be
compatible.
It was noted the sketch plan needs to be corrected to show a rezoning
to R-4, not R-l. The Commission then recommended Mr. Raudio look at
the proposed street alignment suggested by Commissioner Jacobson. The
item is on the August 2 Council meeting Agenda and on the P & Z Agenda
once again on August 9.
The Commission also asked Mr. Haas to provide the background
information of when the area was zoned LB as to why it was done and
add It to the Agenda for discussion at a future meeting.
ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE/SNOWMOBILE ORDINANCE PUBLIC HEARING. CONTINUED
ChaIrperson Perry reopened the publIc hearing at 8:06 p.m;- Mr. Morey
reviewed the changes made to the proposed ordinance as suggested at
the July 12 meetIng:
1. Made it unlawful for ail-terrain vehicles to operate In the
ditches of county roads at all times
2. Allow snowmobile operation on City streets only on the
righthand-most portion of the roadway
3. Allow operation of all-terraIn vehIcles and snowmobiles In
City parks In areas designated by the Park CommIssion
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MInutes - July 26, 1988
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(All-Terrain Vehicle/Snowmobile Ordinance Public Hearing, Continued)
Discussion was on the second change. Mr. Morey stated the snowmobIle
should be on the righthand-most portion of the improved roadway. And
roadway is defined as that portion of a highway improved, desIgned, or
ordInarily used for vehIcular travel but not In the roadway proper.
It Is not intended to allow them to drIve on the roadway but on the
shoulder, unless It Is a very narrow street.
CommIssIoner Bosell asked If thIs has gone to the Park CommIssion for
their consideration, noting the third change. ChaIrperson Perry
reported the Park Board was represented. There are no designated
trails in the City but that it would be somethIng that may be
considered in the future. And thIs would gIve them the authority to
desIgnate such traIls if they would so choose at some point in the
future.
Commissioner Bosell recommended not even invItIng such use at this
time; that It would be better to amend the ordinance in the future If
these traIls are desired. Commissioner Bernard thought Park Board
Member Stuart Kinkade was before the P & Z to put that sectIon Into
the ordInance to gIve them that option.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Bosell, to strike the last sentence
in SectIon 3, B. Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes (Bosell, Jacobson,
Jovanovich, Pease); 2-NO (Bernard, Perry) vote.
ChaIrperson Perry asked for a motion to close the public hearIng.
MOTION by Bernard, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried
unanImously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Bernard, to recommend to the City
Council the passage of OrdInance No. (to be determined), an Ordinance
adopting regulatIons for the operation of all-terrain vehicles and
snowmobiles within the City. The Planning and Zoning Commission held
a public hearing and took public comment on the proposed ordinance.
A majorIty of those appearing Indicating they would be in favor of an
ordinance such as Is being recommended. The Commission also took
testimony from Sheriff Deputy Roessler concerning the problems of
enforcing current ordinances relating to ATV's and snowmobiles. The
CommIssion, after considering all the testimony and dIscussing the
matter at length, recommends the ordinance to the Council for
adoption, and feelIng that passage of this ordinance would have a
positive Impact on the CIty and the quality of life in the CIty.
MotIon carrIed unanimously.
The hearing closed at 8:18 p.m.
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Minutes - July 26, 1988
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NON-DOMESTICATED ANIMAL ORDINANCE PUBLIC HEARING. CONTINUED
Chairperson Perry reopened the public hearing at 8:18 p.m. Mr. Morey
reviewed the changes that had been incorporated into the ordinance as
recommended at the July 12 meeting as noted in the Agenda material.
Chairperson Perry explained the intent of Section 4 was to require a
permit for non-domesticated animals that may be coming into the City
for a temporary period, such as a carnival comIng into town; and it
could not be for any longer than 30 days. Otherwise the intent Is not
to allow any non-domesticated animals In the CIty.
Under Section 6, CommIssioner BoseII suggested once the ordinance is
adopted, that the residents be asked to notify the CIty if they have a
non-domesticated animal. There would be no consequence, but it would
be simply to document that there are pre-existing non-domesticated
animals safely contained in the City. And it would protect their
abIlity to retain ownership of that animal. That could be Implemented
mostly by education through the newsletter.
MOTION by Bosell, Seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Bernard, Seconded by Pease, that the Andover PlannIng and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the
ordinance proposal as stated in the request for Planning Commission
action July 26, 1988. I recommend that the modifications as noted or
stated be accepted in Section 2, e), inserting the words "IncludIng,
but not limited lo, bears and badgers.", and in Section 4, Exceptions,
A, second sentence, strIke "shall" and include "may" (Such a permit
may be Issued...). The public hearing heard one gentleman's concerns
about ducks but was assured that that was not the intent to limit the
wildlife in his pond by this action. The Planning Commission feels
that this action would limIt any animals of the dangerous nature to
the citizens. If the City Council adopts this ordinance, the Planning
Commission recommends publishing the ordinance in the newsletter so
that citizens will be aware of it. DISCUSSION: Mr. Morey recommended
this be a separate ordinance, thinking it would be clearer than if it
were included in the zoning ordinance. Motion carried unanimously.
The hearing closed at 8:39 p.m.
ORDINANCE 8 (ZONING ORDINANCE) AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARING. CONTINUED
ChaIrperson Perry reopened the hearing at 8:39 p.m., noting the City
Attorney has informed them he has not had an opportunity to look at
all of the Issues Involved in limIting or excludIng these activItIes
I from the City. The Attorney's clerk will research ordinances from
other cities. She also stated it was the Attorney's opinion that
there would be a problem excluding such activitIes from the City but
they could be limited to certain areas.
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\ Minutes - July 26, 1988
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(Ordinance 8 (Zoning OrdInance) Amendment PublIc Hearing, Continued)
It was then agreed to delete Section 3.02, DefInitions, and Section
7.03, Special Uses from this proposed amendment until more information
is obtained and until after the hearing that will be held in two weeks
regarding high-risk sexual activities.
After a brief discussion, it was also agreed that for future
reference, the wording under Adult bookstore should be clarified and
read: "An establishment having a substantial or significant portion
of its stock in trade, books, magazines, and other periodicals; films
or video tapes for sale or viewing on the premises by use of motion
picture devices or other coin-operated means, all of which are
distlnquished..." There was then a question as to whether "al I of" in
the above phrase indicates a store would not meet the definition if it
also sold one or two items not relating to nudity, etc.; because the
intent is that If there is any material of this nature, it would meet
this definition. No final decision was made on this item, agreeing to
ask the Attorney about it.
Section 4, 4.15: Because the City doesn't have a Thoroughfare Plan,
it was agreed to change the wording to "City Street Plan" in the
center of that paragraph.
It was pointed out that to be consistent with other ordlnances~ all
numbers should be written out and then the numeral placed in
parenthesis.
Section 5, 5.02, CC), last line, change to: "...unless a written
extension...", as the Commission felt the City should have the
granting of the extension in writing.
Section 5, 5.02, CD), it was agreed to simplify the paragraph: "The
Planning Commission shall make its report to the City Council in the
following manner:" Then proceed to items 1 and 2.
The Commission also discussed the posting of any property that is
being considered for rezoning so the residents are aware of what is
taking place. They requested the City Administrator find out what
happened to the "Rezoning" signs that had been purchased previously. A
determination also needs to be made as to who will install those signs
and communicate to them when and where properties may be rezoned.
Section 5, 5.04, (5), it was agreed the definition of undue h~rdohip
should be deleted from this paragraph and placed under Definitions,
Section 3.02. This deletes the sentence, "Undue hardship as
used....essential character of the locality."
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Minutes - July 26, 1988
Page 7
(Ordinance 8 (Zoning Ordinance) Amendment Public Hearing, Continued)
Section 5. 5.04. (6). is to be clarified: "The petitioner. if
appealing an interpretation of this ordinance which would require
him/her to obtain a variance, shall have the fee refunded if his/her
appeal is upheld by the City Council." The intent would be the
variance would be applied for and fee paid; but the fee would be
returned if their appeal is upheld.
Section 6, 6.02. discussion was on whether or not extra width should
be required on corner lots. Commissioner Bosell explained extra
setbacks are required on corner lots, and the extra width then gives
the lot the same building space as interior lots.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Pease. to make a corner lot a
minimum of 100 feet in the R-4 zone. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Jovanovich. that we recommend to the
City Council adoption of Ordinance 8 (letters to be determIned). The
Planning and Zoning Commission has. over the period of the last year.
found some technIcal correctIons In OrdInance 8 whIch it feels need to
be corrected to make the administrative functionIng of the Planning
and ZonIng and the Council mesh better; and make some technical
corrections and other provIsions in Ordinance 8 to insure unIformity
in the Interpretation of the ordinance. And recommend to the CouncIl
the adoption of this amendment to Ordinance 8. Motion carried
unanimously.
The hearing ended at 9:21 p.m.
ORDINANCE 40 (LOT SPLIT ORDINANCE) AMENDMENT
MOTION by Bosell. Seconded by Pease, that we adopt the amendment to
Ordinance 40 as presented by the CIty Planner which would allow for
the utIlization of a fifth Tuesday In a month with which to refer
items from the PlannIng CommissIon to the City Council. MotIon
carried unanimously.
ORDINANCE 10 (SUBDIVISION AND PLATTING ORDINANCE) AMENDMENT.
CONTINUED
Mr. Morey explaIned the amendment sets criteria for erosIon and
siltation control and is modeled after Plymouth's polley.
CommIssIoner Bosell proposed a defInItIon In 3.02 be established for
ErosIon Control: A plan designed to alleviate harmful or damaging
effects of on-sIte erosion and sIltation on neIghboring downhIll or
downstream lands and waters In the CIty of Andover and adjacent
communItIes durIng and after development.
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(OrdInance 40 (Lot SplIt OrdInance) Amendment, Continued)
In discussIng the control of wind erosion, it was noted wind erosIon
isn't necessarily downhIll or downstream. To make the definition
applIcable to all types of erosion, it was agreed to elImInate the
words "downhIll or downstream" In the proposed definitIon.
SectIon 17, 17.01, thIrd line, also elIminate "downhIll or
downstream. "
It was agaIn suggested that for consIstency, all numbers should be
spelled out, followed by the numeral In parentheses.
Section 17.02, f, thIrd line should read: "additional buIldIng
permits shall be issued..."
Section 17.03,
measures. . . "
mulching would
second line, to read: "any site, approprIate
It was felt that some of the control measures
take place after the gradIng is done.
control
such as
Section 17.04 is to be divided into three separate paragraphs, each
paragraph to be lettered. Item a wIll begIn with "Developers" and end
wIth, "...and invoIce the developer." Item b to be "In addItion
to......drawon the fInancIal guarantee." Item c to begin wIth
"Builders will be gIven a notice..." to the end of the paragraph. The
Commissioners felt this would make the section easIer to read and
understand.
Also, in Item a, clarIfy: "Developers will be given a 48 hour notice
by telephone when..."
Section 17.05 to be changed to: "Included within the Development
Contract shall be the requirement for street cleaning if needed, as
determined by the Public Works Director." The Commission felt this
wordIng would clarIfy where street cleaning should be done and that it
would be done only If needed. It would apply to roads both wIthin the
development and through other developments If those roads were used in
the process of construction.
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MOTION by Bosell, Seconded by Jacobson, recommend Planning and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of an
amendment to Ordinance 10 as presented by the City Planner. It was
the intent of the Planning CommIssion to clarIfy some procedures, add
some definItions, and most importantly, to add a a new section to
Ordinance 10 whIch would deal wIth erosIon and siltation control, as
the development over the last two years has shown that our ordInance
Is lackIng in regard to erosIon control. We have not received any
negative response from developers at thIs point in time, and would
recommend the adoptIon of this ordInance amendment by the CIty
CouncIl. MotIon carried unanimously.
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(Ordinance 10 Amendment, Continued)
The Commission felt the Council should address whether Section 17 can
specifically apply to plats that are already in place and are in the
process of construction.
MOTION by Bosell, Seconded by Jacobson, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary