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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -APRIL 14, 2009
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Daninger on April 14, 2009, 7 :00 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff,
Michael Casey, Valerie Holthus, Devon Walton, Douglas
Falk and Dennis Cleveland.
Commissioners absent: There were none.
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Associate Planner, Angie Perera
Others
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
March 10, 2009
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: V ARlANCE (09-01) TO VARY FROM CITY CODE 12-6 TO
ALLOW MORE THAN THE MAXIMUM ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SQUARE
FOOTAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3443 13STH A VENUE NW.
Ms. Perera noted the applicant is seeking approval for a variance to allow an existing
shed to exceed the maximum square footage area allowed by 144 square feet for the
combination of existing accessory structures.
Ms. Perera reviewed the staff report with the Commission.
Motion by Walton, seconded by Falk, to open the public hearing. Motion carried on a 7-
ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
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Mr. Tim Christianson, 3443 135tl1 Avenue NW, stated there is no other avenue for him to
get to this point. When he got a permit for the garage he asked if he could get a variance
to keep the shed and was told no but he kept the shed until the City came out and gave
him a letter. He thought he could shave off part of the shed and rebuilt it to make it
conform but he would rather not do that. The yard looks nice with the shed on it and
does not seem to bother anyone. He did not see that the shed is detrimental to Andover.
Commissioner Holthus asked if the City gave him a reason why he was not allowed to
apply for a variance. Mr. Christianson stated they did not. He stated he did call when he
was ready to build the shed to see ifhe needed a permit. He stated that the City asked if
the shed would have a cement slab and he told them it would not and was infonned by
the city that he did not need a permit.
Chairman Daninger asked if Mr. Christianson was notified that the shed needed to be
removed when he came in to build the two car garage. Mr. Christianson indicated that he
was informed that the shed had to be removed when he applied for the detached garage.
Then he found out afterwards that he could file a variance to keep the shed which is what
he did. He stated the shed is being used for building materials, lawn supplies and not
vehicles.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked what the requirements are for needing a building permit.
0 Ms. Perera explained the requirements to the Commission.
Mr. Christianson stated he would not object to having the shed inspected and he would
change what needed to be corrected, if need be.
Motion by Walton, seconded by Cleveland, to close the public hearing. Motion carried
on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
Commissioner Cleveland stated many of the homes in the neighborhood have accessory
structures similar to this shed and he thought the issue was that there is more garage and
shed than house and he thought that was the intent of the City Code. He thought the
City's interest was in maintaining the property as a residence and not as a storage area.
Chairman Daninger stated part of his concern is that there is a rule in place and has been
established. The two car garage could have been 144 square feet less at the time it was
built and then both could stay. It was also his understanding that when he received the
permit to build the detached garage, the applicant was told that the shed needed to be
removed and was agreed to and the shed was never removed, so he did not see a
hardship.
Commissioner Falk concuned. He stated there are certain rules they have to follow and
he cannot find a hardship with this at all. Commissioner Kirchoff stated he agreed. He
0 stated there is no hardship here and does not fit the criteria for a hardship.
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Motion by Walton, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, to deny the variance resulting in either removal of the shed or
reduction by 144 square feet so it will comply with the ordinance. Motion carried on a 7-
ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Ms. Perera stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 21, 2009 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODLAND CROSSING 2ND
ADDITION TO MODIFY THE WOODLAND CROSSINGS PRELIMINARY PLAT
AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW SIX DETACHED
TOWNHOUSE LOTS TO REPLACE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
Mr. Bednarz explained the preliminary plat follows from the sketch plan previously
reviewed by the Planning Commission and Council.
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the information with the Commission.
Commissioner Kirchoff stated when they had a sketch plan this was what they agreed to
after that process. Mr. Bednarz indicated it was. Chairman Daninger thought the
0 Council added some things also.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing. Motion carried on a 7-
ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Falk, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a
7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
Motion by Walton, seconded by Falk, to recommend approval of the preliminary plat
based on the applicant's proposal.
Commissioner Holthus stated on the map, page 6, in the description of the item it was
mentioned there would be additional plantings in the backyards of evergreen trees and in
the landscaping plan there was no indication of this. She wondered where those fit.
Mr. Byron Westlund, Woodland Development, stated that was not added in time for the
Planning Commission packets. He showed a new map to the Commission indicating
where the trees will be located at in the development.
Commissioner Holthus stated she was under the impression the trees were to be added for
0 screening and it did not look enough were added to create a bmTier. Mr. Westlund asked
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if she had a number in mind for trees. He stated he would have no problem working with
staff on this.
Commissioner Holthus stated on page 3, under association documents, she wondered
where the cunent association townhomes are located. Mr. Westlund explained where the
towrihomes are located and indicated wording will be added to the documents to add the
six units to the association.
Chairman Daninger stated he was going to vote against this because he voted against it at
the sketch plan. He stated he was not in favor oftowrihomes in that area.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, O-present, 2-absent (Daninger, Holthus) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 21, 2009 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (09-03) TO ALLOW PUBLIC
UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AT 15920 7TH A VENUE NW AND 14361 7TH A VENUE
NW
0 Mr. Bednarz explained Northern Natural Gas will be installing equipment to allow inline
inspection of the integrity ofthe natural gas pipeline between the two properties as
required by the Federal Government. This project is similar to the one that was
constructed near Prairie Knoll Park in 2004. The improvements will allow Northern
Natural Gas to send equipment between the sites verify the integrity ofthe natural gas
pipeline on an ongoing basis.
Commissioner Falk asked how many of these sites are in the City. Mr. Bednarz stated
there is a facility on Prairie Road and these two sites. He was not sure if Northern has
any other facilities in Andover.
Commissioner Falk wondered if the station on Prairie Road could handle the equipment.
Mr. Bednarz stated that was already in place.
Mr. Bednarz stated he received a voicemail today from a neighbor that lives to the north
of the southerly site expressing two concerns. One was noise emanating from the site and
the other was the trees around the southerly site have not fared very well.
Commissioner Cleveland stated there is also an issue of repainting one ofthe buildings
on the site. Mr. Bednarz stated the applicant is agreeing to do that.
Chairperson Daninger stated the way he is seeing this, the fence will be expanded twenty-
0 five feet to the nOlih. Mr. Bednarz indicated on the northerly site it is twenty-five feet
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from where the existing fence is to the north. They are also proposing to pave an
additional area for access of their vehicles.
Chairperson Daninger asked if the Commission could request additional trees be placed
for more screening. Mr. Bednarz stated they could add reasonable conditions to mitigate
adverse impacts.
Commissioner Cleveland stated on the nOlihern site as they approach there are some
meters on 8x8 poles, a few are on the inside of the fence and one is on the outside, when
they change this will it all be contained within the fence.
Commissioner Holthus asked if there were any issues with Prairie Knoll since that was
installed. Mr. Bednarz stated there have not been any issues.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Cleveland, to open the public hearing. Motion carried on
a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
Mr. Bob Whitcraft, 16002 Valley Drive, stated his interest would be the northern most
site. He asked what the buffer around the site meant. Mr. Bednarz stated the buffer was
the mailing area for the public hearing.
0 Mr. Whitcraft asked if there would be any additional operational activities being done at
this site. Chairperson Daninger thought the applicant could answer this.
Mr. Whitcraft asked ifthere were any City plans or conditions put on the facilities in
regards to vandalism or terroristic threats because they are close to residential homes.
Mr. Bednarz stated there are not specific plans put on these facilities by the City. The
Fire Department does go there periodically on calls.
Mr. Mike McNabb, 4320 1441h Lane NW, stated his property is adjoining the Northern
Gas Company and he is on the edge of the buffer zone. His concern was the cosmetic
look of it. He stated the trees that were originally placed on the property, at least fifty
percent have died and the others look really bad. The intention was to buffer some of the
sound for the neighbors. He stated there is terrible hissing coming from it at all times.
He would like them to try to muffle the sound and put up more trees. He also wanted to
know how this affects the property because there are some trees in there that are rough
looking but did not want them to cut out more trees because it is a sound barrier for them.
He stated there is a fence around the structure right now and his recommendation would
be to weave some stuff in the fence so it is less noticeable to everyone. He also wanted to
know if there will be any additional noise added with the changes.
Mr. James McClain, 4360 144th Lane, stated his concern was pretty much the same as
Mr. McNabb's. He suggested they plant evergreen trees and screen the fence for noise
0 abatement as well.
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Mr. Hal Wilsie, Northern Natural Gas representative, stated he could answer questions
for the Commission.
Chairperson Daninger asked if the meter on the outside of the fence remain where it is
located. Mr. Wilson stated it would.
Chairperson Daninger asked ifthe noise will change. Mr. Wilsie stated the noise should
not change at all. He explained how the equipment works and why there is noise at the
site and he stated that at the northern end is where they inject the odor into the pipeline.
This is not a natural gas leak it is an odorant leak and happens every time it is filled. He
stated on the southern end he did not think any trees will need to be cut. He stated due to
the volume of gas that moves through the pipeline at certain times there is not anything
that can be done about the hissing sound at the site. He stated he visited the site before
the meeting and no noise was audible at that time. He stated the launchers and receivers
do not make noise.
Chairperson Daninger asked if some slats could be placed in the fence so it is screened.
Mr. Wilsie stated they could do that. Chairperson Daninger stated trees were requested
and would they be opposed to putting more screening there to reduce the noise. Mr.
Wilsie asked when the trees were installed that died. Chairperson Daninger indicated he
0 did not know but thought more trees could be added for screening and as an additional
sound barrier. Mr. Wilsie stated anything outside of the fence is not owned by Northern
Natural Gas, it is owned by Center Pointe Energy and they would have to work with them
on that.
Mr. Whitcraft stated on the northern site, what is going to change as a result of the
additions. Chairperson Daninger stated it is only the safety equipment being inserted into
the pipeline.
Mr. Whitcraft asked ifthere will be more traffic onsite or is this a one time deal. Mr.
Wilsie stated there will be tests done to begin with and fix any flaws that are discovered
and then they will need to inspect at a minimum every three years but could be longer.
He stated this is safety equipment being installed which is good.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 7-
ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
Commissioner Casey thought it was pretty essential to put an amendment on this to have
Center Pointe add landscaping for noise and screening of the site. The applicant stated
they would be willing to install slats in the fence.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to recommend approval of the proposed
Conditional Use Permit with two additional amendments to add trees for buffering all
0 around the site and to install slats in the fence that is characteristic of the neighborhood as
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determined by stafffor both sites. Motion canied on a 7-ayes, a-nays, a-present, 0-
absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the Apri121, 2009 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CITY CODE AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO
CITY CODE 12-2-2 DEFINITIONS, 12-8-6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
EXTERIOR STORAGE, 12-12 TABLE OF PERMITTED, CONDITIONAL &
PROHIBITED USES, 12-13-3 EXTERIOR STORAGE, AND 12-13-5 SCREENING.
Ms. Perera explained after discussing enforcement action pertaining to exterior storage on
properties with the City Attorney, staff has discovered inadequacies in the ordinance.
Staff is recommending the following amendments to the City Code pertaining to exterior
storage. The proposed amendments do not change the intent of the current ordinance as
they are currently written and are mainly suggested for clarification purposes of when
and where exterior storage is allowed as outlined below:
. Add the following definitions: "Outdoor display, storage, and sales",
0 "Lumberyard", and "Building materials"
. Exclude the Residential District from the option to obtain a CUP for exterior
storage. Staff has historically interpreted the ordinance this way.
. Remove "building materials" from the Table of Permitted, Conditional &
Prohibited Uses since it is not needed with the addition of the definition which
states where and when it would be allowed.
Staff has made suggestions related to screening of exterior storage that may differ from
historical practice. Staff has clarified that screening should be visible "at ground level"
in relation to exterior storage. The intent being that a property would be considered to be
in compliance when the exterior storage is adequately screened from a neighboring
property and from a public street both visible at ground level. The City attorney has
suggested the need to clarify where screening is visible ("at ground level") to be added
for practicality purposes and from a safety perspective for code enforcement staff.
Ms. Perera discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Commissioner Cleveland wondered if it was ok to park vehicles in the front yard that do
not run. Ms. Perera stated they cannot and that the property owner would need to store
the vehicles either on the driveway if operable with current tabs or in a garage if
inoperable or expired tabs. Commissioner Cleveland asked who determines a driveway.
Ms. Perera stated there is language in the ordinance pertaining to driveways.
0 Motion by Cleveland, seconded by Falk, to open the public hearing. Motion canied on a
7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, a-absent vote.
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There was no public input.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a
7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to recOlmnend to the City Council the changes
outlined in the staff report as presented. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-present, 0-
absent vote.
Ms. Perera stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 21, 2009 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CITY CODE AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO
CITY CODE 4-2 GARBAGE, RECYCLABLES AND REFUSE, AND CITY CODE 4-4
WEEDS, GRASSES, AND OTHER HARMFUL VEGETATION PERTAINING TO
THE ABATEMENT PROCESS WITHIN EACH CHAPTER.
Ms. Perera stated that staff continues to work with the City Attorney on reviewing the
0 abatement process within Title 4: Public Health and Safety. The City Attorney has
communicated that there may be additional edits to other sections within Title 4 that have
not been identified in the recent public hearing notice. Due to the additional work and
advertisement that is needed, it is recommended that the full draft ordinance amendment
be brought up for review at the next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting on May
12,2009.
Ms. Perera explained that the public hearing would need to be opened up and then
continued to the next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing. Motion canied on a 7-
ayes, O-nays, O-present, O-absent vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Cleveland, seconded by Casey, to continue the public hearing to the May 12,
2009 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Motion canied on a 7-ayes, O-nays, 0-
present, O-absent vote.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
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ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Casey, to adjourn the meeting at 8: 17 p.m. Motion carried
on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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