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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 10, 2009 0 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 10,2009 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on February 10, 2009, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall; 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Michael Casey, Valerie Holthus, Douglas Palk and Dennis Cleveland. Commissioners absent: Devon Walton Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Director of Public Works/City Engineer, David Berkowitz Others 0 APPROVAL OF MINUTES. January 27,2009 Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Walton) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: SKETCH PLAN TO CONSIDER REVISED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR ANDOVER CLOCKTOWER COMMONS. Mr. Bednarz explained BDT Holdings, the cunent owner of Andover Clocktower Commons, is seeking direct access to Crosstown Boulevard NW. Mr. Berkowitz reviewed the background information with the Commission. Commissioner Kirchoff stated there was mention of a speed study and he thought this will play into it. Mr. Berkowitz stated there was a speed study requested by the applicant and it was sent onto MNDot and the decision was to leave the speed limit at 50 mph. 0 Commissioner Holthus asked why Crosstown was turned back from a County Road to a City Road, Mr. Berkowitz stated the County can turn back any County Road to the City Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 10, 2009 0 Page 2 and they did negotiate with the County and they made several improvements before they turned it back. Commissioner Falk asked ifthere was any indication a stop light would be placed at the intersection of Crosstown Boulevard and Bluebird Street in the Future. Mr. Berkowitz stated whatever develops to the south of there will dictate a traffic signal. There are needed intersection improvements there. Motion by Casey, seconded by Falk, to open the public hearing. Motion carried on a 6- ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Walton) vote. Mr. Mark Hyvare, 15195 Bluebird St. NW, stated his biggest concern is the back up of vehicles on Crosstown. He noted cunently there is a back up with people turning at the intersection and it will only get worse ifthere is a left turn closer to Hanson Boulevard unless there is a secondary lane installed. Mr. Tom Roberts, 6484 Pinnacle Drive, Eden Prairie, Chief Manager ofBDT Holdings and Mr. Darren Lazan made a presentation to the Commission. Motion by Falk, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing. Motion canied on a 6- C ayes,O-nays, I-absent (Walton) vote. Commissioner Holthus stated Mr. Roberts indicated in his presentation that they wanted a full access intersection but did not want to spend a lot of money right now and she thought a full access intersection would be the most expensive of all the alternatives to do. Mr. Roberts stated if they design a full access that comes out to the property line, they could put a little turn lane in. Ifthey did a % access it would be a lot of money to do that when it could be changed in a year depending on how the Holasek property develops. Commissioner Holthus asked what the Compo Plan indicated for this area. Mr. Berkowitz stated they have an extensive layout of Crosstown that shows potential new access points and this access does not show up in the Compo Plan. He stated they are trying to figure out a compromise that allows access but provides the most safety at that intersection as possible. The applicant discussed with the Commission the reasons for wanting to install a four way full access intersection. Chairperson Daninger stated some ofthe applicants concerns were based on cost and the applicant was aware that it will be their cost. Mr. Roberts indicated they were aware and did not want to spend the dollars today ifthey are not spent wisely. 0 Chairperson Daninger stated there was some input in regards to this from the local businesses in the development and he wondered if they brought this up when they moved in there to begin with. Mr. Lazan stated this was brought up at the original PUD approval Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 10, 2009 0 Page 3 and they ran into a wall at the County. He stated when the road was turned back to the City he has discussions with the City Administrator about getting access. Mr. Roberts stated the first meeting he had with City Staffthey pulled out a site plan and it showed a proposed right in/right out so there was always the thought process to hopefully get access. Mr. Bednarz thought that was where the discrepancy exists, he was not sure if it was communicated to Mr. Roberts when he purchased the property that the right of access to both Hanson and Crosstown had been dedicated to the County. Mr. Roberts stated he did not disagree with staff. He just hoped there would potentially be access. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if there was not enough land there to make the by-pass lanes. Mr. Berkowitz stated it makes it a challenge and could look at shifting the lanes over to make that work. They have looked into the details. It would be easier for them to do the full intersection if they had the right-of-way but it could be done without it. Mr. Berkowitz reviewed some of the concerns the City has with changes to the access as Crosstown Boulevard and also Bluebird Street. Commissioner Holthus asked what is the safest option according to staff. Mr. Bryant Ficek, TKDA Traffic Engineer, stated it would be the right in/right out because that configuration would have the least conflict points. Commissioner Holthus thought there 0 was a lot of pedestrian traffic at the Hanson/Crosstown intersection and she saw a . potential danger. Chairperson Daninger wondered if the Commission was in favor of a full intersection as the applicant has proposed. Commissioner Falk stated he is not in favor of a full access. He was leaning towards a right in/right out access. Chairperson Daninger stated he was leaning towards not making any improvements unless the improvements go all the way up to Bluebird Street. Commissioner Cleveland stated he agreed with the comments. He felt they have to deal with this type ofthing at many shopping centers and if a person wants to shop there they will no matter where the entrance is located. Chairperson Daninger sensed a right-in/right out was the farthest they would agree to. The Commission agreed. Chairperson Daninger stated the recommendation is the most they want to see is a right in/right out at this time. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the February 17, 2009 City Council meeting. OTHER BUSINESS. 0 Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items. Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 10, 2009 0 Page 4 ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Casey, seconded by Falk, to adjourn the meeting at 8:05 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Walton) vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. 0 0