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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 14, 2009 0 Sl\NDbVE~ 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755,5100 FAX (763) 755-8923. WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN,US REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 14, 2009 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by Chairman Deric Deuschle, October 14, 2009, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Gretchen Sabel, Jody Keppers, Jim Olson, Winslow Holasek, Bruce Perry and Kim Kovich Commissioners absent: None Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Others 0 APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 9, 2009 There were no changes Motion by Kovich, Seconded by Perry, to approve the minutes. Motion carried 6 ayes, 1 present (Sabel). PROPERTY NEGOTIATION UPDATE Mr. Bednarz updated the Commission on the Luedtke property negotiations with the City and the formal offer presented. REVISIT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Chair Deuschle stated this was discussed last month and brought back to refresh the Commission on the Comprehensive Plan language. He thought there was some latitude to be a participant beyond acquisition. 0 Commissioner Sabel asked what the status was of the plan and has it been approved yet. Mr. Bednarz indicated it has and is on the City website. 0 Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes - October 14, 2009 Page 2 Commissioner Keppers stated they have established criteria for ranking sites and what sites are desirable. They could talk a little more about expanding on the role the open space commission could play during development and bringing some of the properties in. The difficult thing it seems in this market is that the property is undervalued now and they are reluctant to give something of unknown value away as open space and he thought they could propose a set of criteria that could be applied when someone is looking to develop. 2009 SITE SELECTION PROCESS UPDATE Chair DeuscWe thought they have been kind of stagnant on this because there is not really anyone to negotiate with at this time. He asked if there have been any new developments. Mr. Bednarz stated the spreadsheet and map in the packet shows parcels where the owner or city have expressed interest as well as the original study areas. He reviewed the spreadsheet with the Commission. 0 Chair Deuschle stated with the Luedtke parcel being in negotiations he did not want to move forward on any of these until something is accomplished with that and then they could look at other parcels. Commissioner Sabel thought that was a good idea. OPEN SPACE PLANNING DISCUSSION The Commission discussed with Mr. Bednarz how the open space commission could help with development planning. Mr. Bednarz explained the process that developers go through with the City and at what point the Commission could be helpful to them. Commissioner Sabel asked if they should go to the Planning Commission and discuss this with them, Mr. Bednarz thought ifthey had ideas on how they wanted to be involved in that process they should discuss this with the Council and commissions so that there would be an understanding of what their role would be. Commissioner Kovich left the meeting at 7:42 p.m. The Commission discussed some different types of developments, such as cluster developments, that 0 could preserve open space. Mr. Bednarz explained how the current planning process works in the City. 0 Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes - October 14, 2009 Page 3 Commissioner Olson thought they needed to think long and hard before they insert themselves into the development process. Commissioner Keppers stated he has been through these processes before and know what a developer goes through to get a development done; He thought it would be best to avoid being part of a formal group that needs to approve something.. He thought they could make suggestions if property is within one of the areas of interest and have staff point that out to the developer and that open space money is potentially available if they will be preserving open space. Mr. Bednarz stated this could be done. He added that it may not give much direction to a developer without additional discussion. He thought a second step would be for the Commission to put a comment in the planning commission packet when a sketch plan is reviewed. Commissioner Keppers thought one example they might want to approach is go through the areas of interest they have and come up with a sentence or two of what assets they are looking at and develop a goal to bring forth, Commissioner Sabel stated if they added a financial incentive to that would make the developer listen and take into consideration maintaining open space in the development. Commissioner Olson asked how they will rationalize open space land in a development with the Park Board because he thought what their Commission would get would take away from the parks system. Chair Deuschle thought they should look at the development in big blocks, as regions so as development comes up they have an idea of what they want to preserve and in what areas. Mr. Bednarz stated the areas have been identified through the corridors and applying the review criteria. The Commission just needs to share with the Council and Planning Commission how they want to be involved in the development process. Commissioner Sabel read a possible motion that they would present to the Council and Planning Commission. "The people of the City, through their 2006 vote affirming the Open Space Referendum, have said that Andover places a value on preservation of natural features and open space. The Open Space Commission believes that the City could participate financially in the development process, using funds from the Open Space Referendum to preserve key elements on a property as the development of that property moves forward. Key elements are those opportunities that meet the Open Space criteria." Commissioner Keppers thought this sounded like the right tone because they would be bringing something to the table. 0 Commissioner Sabel stated they needed to have some way to describe what the key elements area. Commissioner Keppers stated they could layout priorities. Chair Deuschle thought the easiest way would be to state if it falls within the corridors the Open Space Commission would want to participate in the development process. 0 Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes - October 14, 2009 Page 4 Motion by Sabel, seconded by Perry, to approve the following paragraph to present to the Planning Commission and City Council to include in the development process: The people of the City, through their 2006 vote affirming the Open Space Referendum, have said that Andover places a value on preservation of natural features and open space. The Open Space Commission believes that the City could participate financially in the development process, using funds from the Open Space Referendum to preserve key elements on a property as the development of that property moves forward. Key elements are those opportunities that meet the Open Space criteria. Motion carried unanimously. Chair Deuschle thought there was a benefit in trying to show their value to the development process. Commissioner Olsen discussed an article he read about Oak Grove trying to preserve open space in their City. The Commission decided to move forward with ajoint meeting to discuss this further. 0 OTHER BUSINESS A. Next Meeting B. Map Revisions Commissioner Perry stated on the map item 34 is listed as Kuiken and he thought it was the Russell property and should be listed as 31. He also found item lOon the spreadsheet is the Slyzek property south of Coon Creek and he followed Coon Creek and did not find item 10. Bednarz stated it should be close to item 47 but not marked. C. Transportation Plan Map Chair DeuscWe showed the transportation plan and asked what the priority is for the roads. Mr. Bednarz stated the city's Capital Improvement Plan shows projects scheduled for construction over the next five years. Motion by Sabel, Seconded by Perry, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:52 p.m. Respectfully submitted, 0 Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary