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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 19, 1989 ,-) o , ') '--- " ) ',--.J ll\ 1'\ o o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PARK BOARD MEETING - January 19, 1989 Agenda 7:30 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Residents Forum 3. Approval of Minutes 4. Comprehensive Plan Tasks 1 & 3, continued 5. Northwoods Tennis Court, continued 6. 7. Adjournment o o / \ o o o ...CA CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES JANUARY 19, 1989 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order at 7:35 p.m., Thursday, January 19, 1989, in the Council Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present included: Marc McMullen, Ron Ferris, Gretchen Sabel, Jeff Kieffer, Tom Anderson. Staff present included: Todd Haas, Frank Stone. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Ferris stated that the minutes of January 5, 1989 should have included more discussion regarding the commission's concern of raising the park dedication fees to a much higher amount than is currently used. It was agreed by the commissioners to have an addendum prepared to the January 5, 1989 minutes to include this information, as this would reflect the considerable time spent by the Park Board in discussing the matter. MOTION was made by Commissioner Anderson, seconded by Commissioner Kieffer to approve the minutes, with the inclusion of an addendum for the January 5, 1989 minutes. All voted yes. Motion carried unanimously. RESIDENTS FORUM Mr. Robert Pobol, asked if there were any additional plans for Hidden Creek. The commissioners stated that there aren't any new developments at this time. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. TASKS 1 AND 3. CONTINUED Todd Haas stated that Westwood Planning sent a final invoice to the City for the completion of Tasks 1 and 3. Todd asked the Park Commission if they were happy with the final report from Westwood and if they had any additional comments or corrections. , "- ) v \, Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 19, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Two / Todd also stated that he found a couple of errors on the report. On the first page, under Development Patterns, Todd thought in the first sentence it should read more than 650 acres and also in that same sentence 3+ units per acre should be revised to read 2.314 units per acre. Also on the same page, under Delivery of Neighborhood Park Facilities - the second sentence, the site should contain a ballfield of at least a 300 foot (not 200 foot) radius. On page 2, there was a correction to be made regarding the platting of Woodland Creek that should read that Terrace Park is by Woodland Terrace. Also, in the paragraph regarding Rose Park, the report stated it was in the southeastern corner of the city, but it is in the southwestern corner of the city. Also on the last page, Todd felt the final report should have had a signature on it. \, , ) Ron Ferris stated that he had no problem with the park dedication fee section of the report, but that the other narrative part of the report was not what he expected. All of the other commissioners agreed with Ron. Mr. Ferris thought that Westwood would have identified parks in each geographical area of the city and then give the city a plan with what the city could do with each of them. Gretchen Sabel also commented that Westwood did not even look at what was presently in the parks, but just gave an acreage amount and a recommendation for the acreage. MOTION was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Anderson to direct Todd Haas to report his comments and corrections to Westwood, and to pay the final bill to Westwood, contingent upon Todd Haas's approval of the final, corrected report. All voted yes. Motion carried unanimously. NORTHWOODS TENNIS COURT. CONTINUED Todd Haas reported that he and Frank Stone have begun the bidding process for four separate bids for the Northwoods Tennis Court: 1) fencing - for removing and placing, 2) core excavation and backfilling, and seeding, 3) blacktopping, Class 5, and Painting, and 4) consultant for boorings testing, class 5 sampling, blacktop sampling and compaction. '. j , \J \ o , / Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 19, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Three Todd Haas also stated that the bid openings would be on February 10, and would have the results to the Park Commission by the February 16 meeting, and could go to the Council on February 21st. Todd also projected that they are aiming for a completion date for the Tennis Court of June 15th. PARK DEDICATION FEES Marc McMullen stated that the Park Commission would be meeting on January 26th at 7:30 for a special meeting to discuss park dedication fees but that he would like to briefly talk about it tonight. \-) Mr. Ferris stated his concern was not whether to increase the park dedication fees, but whether the Park Board wanted to increase the fee to be higher than the surrounding communities. He felt the Park Board should reexamine their proposal and lower the proposed fee of $466, as it would be easier to convince the Planning Commission and City Council to be in favor of the proposal. Mr. Ferris also commented that the existing Ordinance 10 reads that the park dedication fee was against the assessed value, not the fair market value. Mr. Ferris recommended that the numbers in the preVlOUS formula be multiplied by a .7 to get a lower figure (approximately $326) to go with on the park dedication fees, He again restated his concern that, after going through all the work and time on this item, he'd like to see it get passed by the Council and Planning Commission and feels a lower number would help accomplish this goal. Torn Anderson stated that Andover has so much land that still needs to be developed, and the City should get from this land an amount that is fair -- and that the Park Board has determined by the original formula what is fair ($466 per unit), Again, he stated that Andover would still be below the other developing communities, such as Champlin and Ramsey. ,~ \ , ) -,/ \.~ \ Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 19, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Four J Mr. Ferris made two final points on this issue: 1) He felt that whether Andover chooses to go with $200 over/or under the proposed figure that it really wouldn't have any influence over whether a developer buys a piece of property or develops it; and 2) No matter what dollar amount is determined for park fees, it can help Andover develop parks, but there's not going to be enough revenue to develop all the parks. Marc McMullen asked Todd how many houses were developed and much additional money this would generate: $366 x $320 = $117,120. The commissioners felt this was a significant amount. Tom Anderson stated Andover will not be doing much for the next year with the parks, because there's not much money in the budget; and that the $117,000 would be significant in trying to develop more parks. Also, it was noted that Westwood wrote in their report "fair market value", and this should be revised to reads "assessed value" for the final report. Todd was directed to advise Westwood of this correction also. , , ) Mr. Ferris stated he could be present at the Planning Commission meeting on February 24th just in case someone asks a question about the issue. Marc McMullen and Tom Anderson both agreed with the original proposal and would like to go with the $466 number, as the numbers could be justified. The Commission directed staff to get the numbers for the surrounding communities of Oak Grove, Ham Lake, Ramsey, CHamplin, St. Francis, Elk River, East Bethel, Anoka, etc. Mr. Ferris thought it would be a good idea to make a chart including the surrounding communities and what they charge for park dedication fees. This could be used during the presentation to the Planning Commission, and the Park Commission could make the point that Andover was lower than all of these communities. It was agreed that the commissioners would meet again on January 26th to discuss this item further, and to develop a more formal proposal to present to the Planning Commission at its February 14th meeting. OTHER BUSINESS ) Commissioner Ferris suggested that the Park Commission name one of the parks in memory of Larry Strootman. Jeff Kieffer stated that they were planning to look at the grant programs and possibly build a passive interactive play center and name that after him, as that was his goal. ~_,J , ' \ _/' , ,~ Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 19, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Five Commissioner Ferris recommended that perhaps the Park Commission could accomplish both of these ideas. The commissioners talked about which park to rename -- possibly Fox Meadows or River Forest, as these two parks were both close to Larry's house. ~ls. Sabel stated that River Forest was the park that Larry more closely identified with, and this one was closer to his home. Mr, Ferris stated that Fox Meadows, though, was a regional park and will continue to get money budgeted for development. Ms. Sabel stated that River Forest would be more appropriate as Larry would around during its development, and this park was closer to his home. MOTION was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Sabel to rename River Forest Park to Strootman Park in memory of Larry Strootman. All voted yes. Motion carried. ) Frank Stone suggested that a dedication ceremony be scheduled in the Spring so that he would have time to clean up the park and prepare the appropriate signs. Also it was suggested that Mrs. Strootman be invited, along with the Mayor, during this dedication ceremony. ADJOURNMENT MOTION was made by Commissioner Anderson, seconded by Commissioner Kieffer to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, \ -) (Park.18)