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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 5, 1989 ,-- ') o / \ " ) ~. ') o {r7\ " ..1'\." o o CITY of ANDOVER Regular Park Board Meeting - January ~, 1989 7:30 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Residents Forum 3. Approval of Minutes 4. Kelsey Park Park Grant, discussion 5. 6. Chairman's Report 7. Adjournment o /~ "-..J ,- " '0 o u .C}\ CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES JANUARY 5, 1989 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order at 7:35 p.m., Thursday, January 5, 1989, in the Council Chambers of Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present included: Marc McMullen, Ron Ferris, Gretchen Sabel, Jeff Kieffer, Stuart Kinkade, Tom Anderson. Staff present included: Todd Haas, Frank Stone. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Kieffer to approve the minutes for the December 15, 1988 meeting as amended. All voted yes. Motion carried unanimously. RESIDENTS FORUM Mr. Kieffer stated that he had spoken with a resident from the Fox Meadows area who wanted to verify that the berm at Fox Meadows was to be six feet tall, instead of four feet. The contractor apparently stated that they could not build a berm of six feet as it would not meet the code, and that is why it was lowered to four feet. Also Frank Stone stated that it would be a problem to mow that area if it was six feet tall. Mr. Ferris made the comment that he thought the City should do something visible to discourage parking on the skating rink at Prairie Knoll. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TASKS 1 AND 3. CONTINUED Todd Haas reviewed the list of park dedications from other communities which are similar to Andover in size, population and location in relation to the City of Minneapolis. He stated that the list indicates that in the rural areas the park dedication is much higher than urban areas are paying based on a per unit single family residential. \ )' -- \j \ ) Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 5, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Two Mr. Ferris made the observation (from the information presented by Todd on the samples of actual purchase prices for rural and urban land) that rural property is going for a higher cost per acre than urban property. Jay Blake recommended that the Park Board present a memo to the Planning and Zoning Committee to outlining the background of this item and this would allow the P & Z members to review it before the meeting. , After performing some calculations (taken from Todd's chart), this is the formula Andover could use in determining park dedication fees: Total acreage of 426.32 acres, total purchase price of $859,500 divided by 2,016.09 per acre (which is the average purchase price) and 10% of that would be $201.60 per acre. For rural, it would be 2.314 times that figure or $466 per unit. For urban, it would be 201.60 divided by 3 or $67 per unit. That compares with Blaine's park dedication figure of $395/single family unit or Coon Rapids park dedication figure of $384/single family unit, Champlin - $608/single family unit, Elk River - $200/single family unit, and Ramsey - $500/single family unit. Ron Ferris stated that there is a problem in that there aren't enough urban numbers to work with, as these numbers are not made available by developers. / Marc McMullen stated that he felt the City did not build enough medium-priced homes. The commissioners felt it would be appropriate to compare the park dedication for Andover with the cities of Blaine and Coon Rapids. Mr. McMullen stated that wherein the current ordinance states "10% of fair market value" to determine park dedication that this is very difficult to administrate. The $466 per unit number is a good number. , Mr. Anderson suggested that the commercial amount could be figured by taking the $466 times 2.314 to equal $1,078/cost per acre or 10% of fair market value, whichever is greater. ) ~) \ \ ' _/ , '/ Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 5, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Three MOTION was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Sabel that the Andover Park and Recreation Commission recommends to the Planning and Zoning Commission that Ordinance 10, Section 9.07 (b) should be revised and reworded as follows: Dedication of Parks or School Sites: In all new subdivisions, industrial plats, and commercial sites, ten (10) percent of gross area subdivided shall be dedicated for public recreation space or school sites, with such ten (10) percent being in addition to property dedicated for streets, alleys, easements or other public ways or payment of a park dedication fees as follows: , ) Residential $466/Single family unit $398/Two-family unit $349/Townhouse unit $293/Multi-family unit S363/Hobile Home Unit or 10% of the fair market value of the land, whichever is greater Commercial $1,078 per industrial acre No areas may be dedicated for public use until such areas have been approved as being suitable and needed for the public health, safety, convenience and/or general welfare. Also 9.07.5 should be corrected to read as follows: Cash Contribution in Lieu of Lands. In those instances where a cash contribution is to be made by the owners or developers in lieu of a conveyance or dedication of land for park, playground, open space or public use purposes, the Park and Recreation Commission shall recommend to the City Council the amount of cash said Commission feels should be so contributed as per the schedule presented on 9.07 (b). It will be the responsibility of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission to review the dedication fees annually and to make recommendations for potential changes. There would no changes to sections 9.07.6 and 9.07.10. All members voted yes. Motion carried unanimously. \ ) The City staff was also directed to prepare a memorandum to the Planning and Zoning Commission explaining the rationale for this recommendation and that after months of reviewing the comparisons of surrounding communities, it has been determined that Andover , , \ \J '-./ ,~ Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 5, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Four is substantially below fair market value of park dedication fees, including Todd Haas's chart, and the formula used to determine the new park dedication fees. This item will go to the Planning and Zoning Commission at their February 14 meeting. Members of the Park Commission will be present to make a formal presentation to the Planning and Zoning Commission. MELANIE DELUCA, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT Melanie DeLuca reported that she had submitted an application for an intern at St. Cloud State. Melanie suggested that she could prepare some packets for some of the active neighborhood groups, to try to get more community involvement. \ ) Also, Gretchen Sabel and Ron Ferris agreed to attend a meeting next week to prepare a survey of what the residents would like. Melanie also stated that she could get some flyers prepared regarding the Northwoods Tennis Courts proposal to alert some of the residents that the Park Commission would be meeting to discuss this issue. Melanie asked if the Park Board could let her know when they wanted her to do this. PARK GRANTS. DISCUSSION Jay Blake discussed the two park and recreation grant programs offered by the State of Minnesota. One was the traditional park grant program and the other one was the athletic facilities focuses on the baseball/softball and football/soccer fields and tennis courts. The traditional park grant offers a 50/50 grant match up to $400,000 per park. The athletic facilities grant goes up to $40,000. Mr. Blake also stated that there may be many changes made to this grant program through this legislative session. Jay also stated that water-related activities within parks win with this grant program. Jay recommended a preliminary proposal could be done in-house, and a final application could be prepared by a consulting firm to be approved by the City Council. \ / Mr. Blake also stated that there is extreme competition for the athletic grant program. Mr. Blake suggested that the Park Board set up a work session to discuss this grant program further and to delegate some projects '>-__",.J "---) \. / Andover Park and Recreation Commission January 5, 1989 Meeting Minutes Page Five Stuart Anderson asked how the City would come up with the matching funds if the grant was approved. Jay Blake stated this could be done over a 3-year period. Jay Blake also stated that it would be important for Andover to keep the legislators informed. ADJOURNMENT MOTION was made by Commissioner Ferris, seconded by Commissioner Kieffer to adjourn the regular Andover Park and Recreation meeting at 10:42 p.m. Respectfully submitted, , C/( 117!l .- Ginhy /f " I J (l4 /J~t;j.!.L' 1/.) ) I , (Park.17) ~ \ ) --- , \~ / Addendum to the PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES JANUARY 5, 1989 The Andover Park and Recreation Commission hereby inserts an Addendum to the January 5, 1989 Regular Meeting Minutes regarding the Park Dedication Fees discussion. In addition to the comments made about applying the formula to determine and justify the proposed park dedication fees of $466 per residential, single-family unit, the following comments were also made at the January 5th meeting. Ron Ferris stated his concern that although the park dedication fees in Andover were low compared to surrounding communities, that it might not be wise to jump to a considerably higher number such as $466/unit for the dedication fees. Tom Anderson commented that he felt Andover should stick with the $466 figure as the formula could be justified. ) Mr. Ferris also stated that the proposed park dedication fee of $466 should be lowered purposely because then Andover would not be higher in dedication fees than any of the surrounding communities. Also, he felt it may be advantageous because then it would cheaper to develop in Andover than in the other local communities; and this concept may fit in with the Comprehensive Plan goal of promoting moderate-priced housing. Here is the comparative list of other cities' park dedication fees: Blaine - $395/single family unit Coon Rapids - $3S4/single family unit Champlin - $60S/single family unit Elk River - $200/single family unit Ramsey - $500/single family unit It was suggested that staff get the park dedication fees for St. Francis and Ham Lake also. Mr. Ferris also commented that according to the way the ordinance reads today, Andover would be getting $45.00 for park dedication fees for a single family unit based on the assessed value. (The proposed $466 increases this amount by 10%.) J " , ~/ j / , ~ / Adendum to the January 5, 1989 Minutes Page Two Marc McMullen stated that $390 would be a good figure as it's mid-way between Blaine and Coon Rapids, but lower than the original $466 proposal. He also commented that Andover is becoming more valuable because of the access from Hanson Boulevard. Ron Ferris suggested another formula which could be mathematically justified: Of all the land masses, 80% is buildable (and it has already been established that 20% of a plat is not buildable) so 20% could be thrown out. By taking 80%: $466 x .80 = $372. Or by using 85%, the figure would be $395. Gretchen Sabel suggested a more round number like $375. \ \ ) Mr. Anderson made the comment that the communities that are growing (Champlin, Ramsey) have higher dedication fees, and the ones that do not have much growth (Coon Rapids, Blaine) have lower dedication fees. He still favored the $466 park dedication fee amount. Mr. Ferris reiterated his previous comment that a drastic jump in park dedication fees would be hard to "sell" to the City Council. He also stated that the Park Board would be reviewing this ordinance on an annual basis and could make any upgraded changes that may be needed in the future. Respectfully submitted, (Park.17) \ ,.