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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 24, 1989
MEETING MINUTES
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The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairman Rebecca Pease on Tuesday,
October 24, 1989 at the Andover City Hall Offices, 1685 Crosstown Blvd.,
Andover, MN.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Pease, Gretchen Sabel, Bev Jovanovich,
Wayne Vistad, Don Spotts, Randal Peek, Ron Ferris
Others Present: Jay Blake, d'Arcy Bosell
Approval of Minutes
The Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was requested to review minutes of
the October 10, 1989 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. MOTION made
by Gretchen Sabel to approve. Second to motion by Ron Ferris; minutes of
October 10, 1989 meeting approved.
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October 24, 1989 Meeting Minutes
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Shannon Roeger Special Use Permit Discussion, cont'd
Jay Blake presented background information relating to the Special Use
Permit application for a Rule 8 Shelter home at 14288 Round Lake Blvd.
In previous discussion, clarification from the city attorney was requested
on the following:
Does the request fall under the definition of "Rest Home" in Andover
Ordinance #8?
The city attorney has determined request does meet the definition of
a rest home.
Is request a "Home Occupation?"
The city attorney states home meets the criteria of "Rest Home" and
must be allowed in a residential district.
Can the city limit the types of residents of shelter?
The city attorney recommends the city not restrict type of residents.
A copy of the letter from City Attorney William Hawkins (attached to minutes)
provides detailed explanation of his response.
The Planning and Zoning Commission has the option of approving application with
restrictions, denying application or tabling proposal. Mr. Blake requests
Planning and Zoning Commission forward decision to Andover City Council to be
included on the November 7, 1989 agenda.
commissioner Peek previously requested the site distance be checked from
Round Lake Blvd. Todd Haas and Jay Blake checked site and are of the opinion
that site distance is adequate. Mr. Blake reports traffic volume on Round
Lake Blvd. at shelter site averages 16,750 vehicles daily. Anoka County has
preliminary plans to widen Round Lake Blvd. to four lanes through downtown
area within next five years. It is possible Round Lake Blvd. will expand to
four lanes past Round Lake to 161st within ten years.
Commissioner Spotts asked if any portion of the yard is currently fenced.
Ms. Roeger answered there is an 8' high wood privacy fence on sides of property.
Front and back are not presently fenced.
Commissioner Jovanovich asked if home is taxed as a single or multi-family
dwelling. Mr. Blake replied the home is currently homestead but believes the
county will tax group home based on their assessing standards.
Commissioner Vistad asked how situation will be handled if neighbors adjacent
to shelter object to new fencing tied into their existing fence.
Blake responded that options for shelter owners
arrangement with neighbors to tie into existing
area within property line.
are to work out agreeable
fence, or to completely fence
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Ms. Morin, attorney for applicants, presented Planning and Zoning Commission
with modified application. The only modification is on page two, where item
seven regarding sex offenses has been deleted. Ms. Morin also submitted
staff resumes.
Mr. Blake submitted a photograph of site driveway.
Commissioner Vistad asked if any residents will stay past the 30 day maximum.
Ms. Roeger replied that home will be in transition to emergency shelter.
Current placements will not be asked to leave within 30 days but will complete
their placement plan.
Commissioner Spotts asked applicants how children in their home feel about
placement with applicants. Ms. Fitzpatrick answered that children have requested
to return to her home.
Commissioner Ferris made a MOTION that the Andover Planning and zoning Commission
recommend to the Andover City Council approval of a Special Use Permit to
Shannon Roeger for a Rule 8 Emergency Shelter Home for adolescent boys located
at the N 100' of the S 300' of the E 150' of lot 7 of auditors subdivision 82
Anoka County, Minnesota. Said distances being measured parallel with the S. & E.
lines of said lot 7, also including that part of the N 100' of the South 300' of
the East 150' of Government lot 4, Section 29, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka
County, Minnesota lying west of the centerline of Round Lake Blvd except part
platted as Anoka County Highway right of way plat subject to easements of
record. Approx property address 14288 Round Lake Blvd.
A public hearing was held by the Planning and Zoning Commission on September 12
and October 10, 1989. Several negative comments were heard regarding the
conduct of children at this location; however it was clear the the comments were
regarding incidents which had ocurred more than two years ago. Corrective
measures taken by the residents and management of the emergency shelter appear
to have eliminated any problem regarding the control of the boys.
Approval of the special use permit will not have a negative effect on the health,
safety, morals and general welfare of the occupants of the surrounding area. It
will not have a significant impact on traffic onto Round Lake Blvd. There has
been no information presented to show that approval of the request would have a
negative impact on surrounding property values.
The recommended approval is based upon the following conditions:
A. The shelter shall be limited to no more than ten temporary residents
B. The applicant shall provide proof of license with the State of Minnesota
and Anoka County
C. The Andover Planning and Zoning Department shall inspect the property after
six months and then annually to insure compliance with all municipal
ordinances
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D. The applicant will meet all requirements of the State of Minnesota
Uniform Building Code for ingress, egress, etc.
E. The applicant will limit vehicle parking at the shelter to insure that
there is always adequate space to allow vehicles to turn around and
move forward onto Round Lake Blvd. If the existing driveway is not
adequate as judged by the Andover Building Inspector, the area will be
enlarged per specifications provided by the Andover Building Inspector.
F. The applicant will install a fence between the subject property and
surrounding homes.
Second to motion by Don Spotts.
Commissioner Sabel noted in reference to Condition B, the applicant cannot
obtain license from state until city permit is granted.
Mr. Ferris explained that typically certain conditions must be met before
conditional use permit is granted. Mr. Ferris' intent is to have copy on
file at city of license granted by state.
commissioner Peek requested Condition B be amended to add loss of state
licensing will mandate loss of city granted Special Use Permit.
commissioner Vistad stated he believes third paragraph of motion should read
in part: Approval of the Special Use Permit may not (rather than will not)
have a negative effect on the health, safety, etc. Mr. Ferris was unwilling
to make this amendment.
Mr. Peek suggested motion include notice by city to residents within certain
distance that Special Use Permit had been recommended for approval by Planning
and Zoning Commission.
Mr. Ferris stated notice will be published in newspaper when City Council grants
Special Use Permit.
Commissioner Vistad asked that height of fence be established within motion.
commissioner Ferris amended his motion as follows: Condition B is to read:
B. Should Rule 8 license be revoked by the licensing body, the Special Use
Permit granted by city will also be revoked.
Condition F will be modified to include a minimum fence height of six feet.
The following paragraph will be added to become last paragraph of motion:
Upon licensing by the State of Minnesota and Anoka County, copies of the licenses
will be maintained by the city.
Amendments to motion were approved by Don Spotts. Commissioners were polled for
their vote on motion.
Oppose
Bev Jovanovich
Wayne vis tad
Favor
Gretchen Sabel
Don Spotts
Ron Ferris
Randall Peek
Rebecca Pease
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Motion will be forwarded to City Council for discussion during 11/07/89 meeting.
commissioner Ferris requested City Building Inspector visit property before
11/07/89 City Council meeting.
In conclusion, Commissioner Ferris suggested applicants attempt to establish/
maintain rapport with neighbors.
Lundby Lot Split Request
d'Arcy Bosell presented request as outlined in 10/24/89 Request for Planning
Commission Action memo. Ms. Bosell noted that Paragraph four of request should
read Ordinance 40, not Ordinance 4.
The applicants, Mr. and Mrs. Lundby, were present during discussion.
Commissioner Vistad stated that constructing a road will put unnecessary expense
on applicants.
commissioner Ferris stated a road will be necessary toaccomodate emergency
vehicles and as an emergency exit.
Mrs. Lundby stated emergency access is adequate.
Mr. Blake explained that road would not be constructed until development is
platted.
Commissioner Sabel asked why map shows a 7S' wide lot. Mr. Lundby explained his
parents owned property for many years. They sold strip of land to neighbor who
built closer to lot line than "comfortable."
Mrs. Lundby said construction of road will leave them with a small unusable portion
of land.
Bosell said steps would be taken to have that piece of land become a buildable lot.
Mrs. Lundby stated the additional traffic a road would bring will cause a hardship
to Mr. and Mrs. Lundby.
Mr. Ferris noted the amount of traffic that turns off County Road 9 onto l75th
is also a dangerous situation.
Mr. Ferris asked if proposed 178th extension has to be aligned. If street is
jogged the small lot could be eliminated.
Commissioner Spotts asked the approximate cost of extending l78th to Round Lake
Blvd.
Mr. Blake stated approximate cost to property owner is $2S.00/foot. Lundby's own
property on both sides of proposed road so cost will be approximately $SO.OO/foot.
commissioner Peek asked if subdividing can be done to comply with existing
ordinance. Bosell stated it can.
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Mrs. Lundby stated if road is required through she and her husband will not
subdivide property. Mrs. Lundby reiterated that road would create a hazard.
Property has many pine trees and traffic would increase likelihood of fire
(careless smokers, etc.)
Commissioner Vistad believes proposal is an improvement because it brings more
of land into compliance in regard to minimum frontage, lot sizes, etc.
Commissioner Vistad made a MOTION to open the Public Hearing. Second to motion
by Gretchen Sabel. There were no resident comments.
MOTION made by Vistad and seconded by Jovanovich to close Public Hearing.
Mr. Blake noted there is not a concept plan for this part of city.
Commissioner Vistad stated it is most important to avoid more entrances onto
Round Lake Blvd.
Ms. Bosell recommends Planning and Zoning commission follow Saarenpaa Lot
split, or accept this lot split as requested.
commissioner Ferris believes now is the time to set aside easement.
Bosell also noted this request is subject to Park Dedication Fee.
Mr. Spotts asked the Lundby's what their feelings are regarding easement, road,
etc.
Mr. and Mrs. Lundby stated they will not follow through with lot split if
road or easement is required.
Commissioner Vistad made a MOTION that the Andover Planning and zoning Commission
recommend to the Andover City Council approval of the lot split request at
l7762 Round Lake Blvd., N.W. to divide off 2~ acre tract parcel to the north
by Larry E. and Catherine A. Lundby, legal description as attached, including
scale drawings and proposed land survey. Request is to create Trace C - 350 feet
frontage on Round Lake Blvd. and 312 feet deep; create Tract B - 300.75 feet on
Round Lake Blvd., additional information on survey. A Public Hearing was held,
there were no objections. Plat does comply with requirements of Ordinance 40.
Parcels meet requirements of zoning district and meet minimum lot depth and
width, and do not violate intent of Comprehensive Plan. Subject to Park
Dedication fee.
Second to motion by Gretchen Sabel.
Commissioners were polled for their vote on motion as follows:
Oppose
Vistad
Ferris
Peek
Jovanovich
Favor
Sabel
Spotts
Pease
Mr. Vistad stated for proper planning, 178th Lane should be planned for a
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66 foot easement for future emergency vehicle and regular transportation into
area west of property. Current request as proposed does not plan for future
expansion.
Mr. Ferris noted that expansion of 178th Lane would lessen congestion at 175th.
Ms. Sabel stated connecting Orchid through Vineski property would address
traffic concerns. If 178th is run out to Round Lake Blvd., a problem will
occur when 179th comes in from the east. These two streets would be "off"
one block.
Chairman Pease stated the application does meet Ordinance 40 and there is no
direction or concept for this portion of Andover.
This item will be presented to Andover City Council at their 11/07/89 meeting.
Public Hearing, Meadow Creek School Amended Special Use Permit
The Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was asked to review the Amended
Special Use Permit request of the Meadow Creek School to allow the expansion
of the enrollment of the school from 445 to 650 over the next 5 years.
Mr. Don Jacobson was present to represent Meadow Creek School at meeting.
The city staff recommendation is to approve with restrictions the request
for Amended Special Use Permit.
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Mr. Jacobson stated the school will maintain firm policy of no more than
25 children per class room. The request for enrollment of 650 students is
based on reasonable projections made by school.
MOTION made by Ron Ferris to open Public Hearing. Second to motion by
Commissioner Vistad. No resident comments were made.
MOTION made by Ron Ferris to close Public Hearing. Second to motion by
Wayne Vistad. Public Hearing closed.
MOTION made by Bev Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the Andover City Council approval of the Special Use Permit
for Meadow Creek School to increase full time student enrollment from 450 to
650 students. The proposal meets the minimum criteria established in
Ordinance 8, Section 5.03 for granting Special Use Permits. Proposal is not
detrimental to the health, safety, and general welfare of the occupants of
surrounding lands, existing and anticipated traffic and parking conditions;
property values and scenic views. It is in harmony with the Comprehensive
Plan. A Public Hearing was held and there was no opposition. The following
restrictions will apply:
1. The Meadow Creek School may expand enrollment per the following
schedule:
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School Year
1989-1990
1990-1991
*1991-1992
*1992-1993
**1993-1994
Enrollment
450
475
500
525
650
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Based on conversion of existing sanctuary into classroom space
** Based on completion of School expansion project
2. The Meadow Creek Church will pay appropriate Sewer and Water
user fees based on total school enrollment.
3. The permit will be reviewed annually to ensure compliance
with all City Ordinances.
Second to motion by Wayne Vistad.
Mr. Vistad suggested the word "sanctuary" be replaced with the word "structure"
contained in restriction 1.
Commissioner Ferris recommended striking restriction 1 as proposed in motion.
He recommended restrictions to Special Use Permit be as follows:
1. The Meadow Creek Church will pay appropriate Sewer and Water user
fees based on total school enrollment.
2. The permit will be reviewed annually to ensure compliance with all
City Ordinances.
Ms. Jovanovich agreed to amendments to restrictions as outlined in motion.
Mr. Vistad was also in agreement to restrictions. Commissioners were polled
for their vote on motion; all commissioners favor motion.
Urban Lot Information, discussion
The Andover Planning and zoning Commission was asked to review information on
urban area lot availability. This information was presented for preliminary
discussion of the upcoming MUSA line expansion proposal.
The following items were included in packet to commissioners:
September 1989 Building Department report to the City Council and
Department Heads
Analysis of homes built in the Urban Area
Summary of lots available in Urban Area as of October I, 1989
Mr. Blake reported the city has received requests by four developers for Urban
Service.
Currently, the city is slightly behind projected construction.
construction has not dropped off as significantly in Andover as
communities.
It was noted that
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Mr. Blake also reported that 79% of homes build in Andover this year are in
Urban areas.
Commissioner Spotts asked if Met Council has given any indication about
expanding boundaries.
Mr. Blake replied it is generally the position of Met Council to prevent
unnecessary expansion.
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There will be further discussion on this issue at the November 14, 1989
meeting.
Other Business
The contract with Werness has been signed. November 2, 1989 Mr. Werness
will have an aerial videotape of Andover available for viewing.
The City Council approved the Boshay variance.
City Council tabled the Kelner request.
Gretchen Sabel reported that Mr. Jim Pennino, (296-7399) is the hydroligist
involved with Andover landfill. Mr. Pennino found the methane contamination
of landfill in April 1989 to be slightly (not significantly) lower than when
landfill was tested in 1986.
Gretchen Sabel suggested city write to agency and ask for a report of tests.
Ms. Sabel also noted a property for sale on Andover and Crosstown Blvds.
She feels if building restrictions will be imposed, action should be taken
now. Also, Anoka County has tested wells in Red Oaks without negative
findings.
Ferris questioned how city can be assured EPA will investigate. Sabel replied
the EPA is investigating the groundwater contamination.
Ms. Sabel will attempt to get help from state on gathering information
on methane gas.
An expert in the area of methane is Mr. Steve Whitman with Warzyn Engineering
based in Madison, WI.
MOTION made by Ron Ferris to adjourn. Second to motion by Sabel. Meeting
adjourned at 10:40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Theresa Hogan
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Mr. Jay Blake
Andover City Hall
1685 Crosstown Blvd.
Andover, MN 55304
ReI Roeger Special Use Permit
Dear Jay:
I am writing in response to your request for my opinion
concerning several matters that were arranged by the Planning
Commission during their deliberations on the Roeger Special Use
Permit application. Those items are addressed in your letter of
October 11, 1989.
For your information Minnesota Statute 5462.357, Subd. 8 is the
enabling legislation that deals with the regulations that the
Ci ty can impose concerning a licensed residential faCility.
Under Subdivision 8 a licensed residential facility serving from
7 to 16 persons shall be conSidered a permitted multifamily
residential use of property for purposes of zoning. The City
may require a special use permit in order to assure proper
maintenance and operation of a facility, provided that no condi-
tions shall be imposed on the facility which are more restric-
tive than those imposed on other special uses of residential
property in the same zones, unless the additional conditions are
necessary to protect the health and safety of the residents of
the residential facility.
Based upon the information you have provided, it would be my
opinion that this activity would constitute a "rest home" as
defined in Ordinance a. This definition includes a private home
for the care of children. It is my understanding that this home
would be available for sheltering of, neglected, abused, or
abandoned juveniles. As such this use would be a special use
under Ordinance a.
Your second question concerns whether or not this would be
classified as a home occupation. Since the state statute
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mandates that these ara permitted multifamily residential use of
property and can be regulated by special use permit, I do not
believe the City would be able to attempt to designate this as a
home occupation and therefore excluded from the district.
Further, the City ordinances clearly allows them as special uses
by permit.
A final question concerns whether the City would have the
abili ty to prohibit individuals who have a history of sex
offenses. The City does have the authority to impose conditions
that are necessary to ensure proper operation of the facility.
Since a residential treatment center by its nature may deal with
individuals \oi'ho have a history of sex offenses., I believe it
would be the burden of the City to show that proper operation of
a facility of this type should not include these types of indi-
viduals. You would have to have an independent expert provide
evidence, that in their opinion, this is not a satisfactory
fac~lity for treatment of these types of offenders. In absence
of fthis information I believe it may be difficult to entirely
restrict offenders of this nature.
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If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact
me.
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William G. Hawkins
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