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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 10, 1989
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Rebecca Pease at 7:30 P.M. on Tuesday, October 10,
1989 at the Andover City Hall Offices, 1685 Crosstown Blvd., Andover, MN.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Pease, Bev Jovanovich, Ron Ferris, Don Spotts,
Gretchen Sabel, Wayne Vistad, Randal Peek
Others Present: Jay Blake, d'Arcy Bosell
Approval of Minutes
The Planning Commission was requested to review minutes of the 9/26/89 Planning
and zoning commission meeting. Bosell noted that page five, paragraph two contains
a typographical error where Section 4.30 was listed as Section 4.03. Commissioner
Spotts made a motion to approve minutes, second to motion made by Commissioner
Sabel. MOTION passed.
Chairman Pease introduced Mr. Randal Peek as a new member of the Andover Planning
and zoning Commission.
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Shannon Roeger, Special Use Permit
Mr. Blake outlined background of request as described in 10/10/89 Request for
Planning Commission Action memo.
The cities of Bloomington, Stillwater and Burnsville were contacted by Mr. Blake
in regard to shelters operating in their communities. All three communities
require special use permits for this type operation.
Mr. Blake visited The Harbor Shelter in stillwater. He described the location as
a medium density area. The building is a former apartment building five blocks
from downtown Stillwater.
Commissioner Ferris visited a Rule 8 facility that has
since 2/88. Facility formerly was known as Lifecrest.
of 22 residents. Residents are males and females ages
truancy, physical and/or sexual abuse.
operated in Burnsville
This shelter has a capacity
12 - 17 with a history of
Shelter is run for profit.
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The City of Burnsville has no recorded complaints against this
averages ten calls to police per month. Mr. Ferris observed a
supervision at shelter. Bed checks are made every 15 minutes.
required to hold a degree in area related to work at shelter.
shelter. Shelter
high level of
Staff members are
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Shelter is located in residential area of l~ acre lots. Shelter is set back
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1,000 feet from road and abuts park. Shelter is not visable from meighboring
homes.
Shelter is serviced by county social workers. School district provides on site
teacher.
Commissioner Spotts reported on. information received from Virginia Jackson, DHS.
Ms. Jackson states the recommended number of residents in a Rule 8 shelter is
ten although requirements are based on the physical limitations of property.
Property must meet building codes. There should be living and recreation space
of 35 square feet floor space per child, not including bathrooms, laundry room,
halls, nedrooms, kitchen and furnace room. Dining room should be large enough
to comfortably accomodate all residents, group home parents and guests. Room
shall be cheerful, well ventilated and easily accessible to kitchen. Every sleeping
room for the accomodation of one child shall include 80 square feet of floor
space. Every sleeping room for the accomodation of more than one child shall
contain 60 square feet of floor space per child. Each child shall have an individual
bed and individual beds shall be at least three feet apart. No sleeping room shall
accomodate more than four children. There must be one toilet for every five
children and tub or shower for every five children. Group home parents shall have
separate sleeping quarters but be near enough to provide proper supervision.
Mr. Ferris questioned how strictly state regulations are enforced based on his
observation of Burnsville Shelter. Ferris stated any motion to approve permit
would be contingent on Shelter obtaining necessary state permits.
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Ferris asked what procedure (in regard to existing ordinance) should have been
followed when home went from four to ten residents.
Blake explained that city ordinance allows a group of not more than five unrelated
individuals to reside in a residential home. When more than five unrelated
individuals live in a single family home a special use permit is required by the
City of Andover.
Ms. Bosell reported that in 1986 an inquiry was received by city from Shannon Roeger
to conduct a Rule 5 Shelter. In 10/87 Anoka County inquired if Andover allowed
a single family residential home to operate a Rule 5 Shelter. It was the response
of the building inspector and City Clerk that shelter did not require a conditional
use permit but was required to meet building code. Ms. Bosell stated applicant
has been in contact with city and attempted to comply with city ordinance.
Commissioner Vistad noted tllis operation seems to be a fairly high intense
commercial enterprise in a residential neighborhood.
Commissioner Ferris asked if Rule 8 has been amended since 1986. Bosell replied
the Rule is basically intact as it relates to this issue.
Applicants were present with their attorney, Mary Morin, to discuss permit with
commission.
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Ms. Morin stated MN Statute 245A.ll Subdivision 2 states a city cannot require
Special Use Permit for six or fewer residents of a foster home. Also,
MN Statute 245A.04 says DHS is required to give notice to city if Special Use
Permit is to be required.
Bosell stated City of Andover received notice 1/30/89 by DHS in regard to Roeger
request. City responded to DHS that according to local ordinance a Special Use
Permit would be required.
Ms. Morin stated that MN Statute 462.357 Subdivision 7 & 8, and MN Statute 245A.ll
Subdivisions 1, 2 & 3 are applicable to issue before commission.
Mr. Vistad was unable to make a report on effect of shelter on neighboring
property values as no area shelters operate in a similar residential area.
Commissioner Spotts asked if a group parent would be in home 24 hours a day.
Roeger stated a staff member would always be on premises.
spotts asked what would be the highest number of residents. Roeger replied
ten boys would be the maximum.
Spotts asked what has been the average length of stay. Fitzpatrick replied the
average stay is less than 30 days.
sabel asked if staff or group parent would be actually residing in home. It was
determined that staff would always be present, but that no staff member/group parent
would be living in home.
vistad stated county officials relayed that home can exclude sex offenders but
according to application this is not the intent of proposed shelter. Further,
Mr. Vistad feels that since very few metro area homes take in sex offenders, Andover
shelter would become high area for sex offenders.
Roeger replied that the county governs number of sex offenders in home and that
offender must be evaluated and thought to not be a threat to community.
Commissioner Sabel noted that #7 under Client Admission Criteria of Round Lake
Shelter Mission Statement states client shall have no known history of sex
offenses.
Roeger replied that admission criteria submitted is two years old and has since
been changed.
Ms. Morin cited two similar cases recently taken into court:
Northwest Residents Inc. Vs. City of Brooklyn Center
(352 Northwestern Reporter, 2nd Series, Page 764)
and
Horbal Vs. City of Ham Lake
(393 Northwestern Reporter, 2nd Series, Page 5)
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commissioner Ferris stated he remains highly concerned because of previous public
input including complaints of neighbor children being harassed, lack of supervision
in home, syringes found on lawy, incidents involving snowballs thrown at cars
traveling on Round Lake Blvd.
Chairman Pease reopened the Public Hearing.
Wayne Ness, 14268 NW Round Lake Blvd., reiterated his comments of previous
Public Hearing as contained in Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes of
9/12/89. Mr. Ness stated an entire summer passed where his children would not
play outdoors due to harassment from boys in foster home. His problems with foster
home have diminished since he erected a fence between properties. Recent problems
include a boy from foster home hiding in ?tr. Ness' yard this summer. Mr. Ness
has not observed adult supervision on premises.
Mrs. Ness stated she is fearful of boys from foster home. Because a fence has
been erected and she can no longer observe foster home does not mean activities
have changed at home.
Commissioner Spotts asked (in reference to restrictions proposed by city staff)
if zoning violations have occured at foster home. Blake replied zoning violations
have not been reported; restrictions proposed to ensure compliance with Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Spotts asked Roeger if she had any concerns regarding proposed restrictions.
Ms. Morin asked that Restriction B omit county license requirement. Bosell asked
Roeger to provide letter from county acknowledging that county licensing not
required.
Ms. Morin noted that Restriction E is unduly restrictive.
Commissioner Vistad wants review by City Attorney. He feels home is not being
asked to comply with Home Occupation rules although in case of cars on drive the
impact to neighbors is the same.
Commission agreed to strike Restriction E from proposed restrictions.
Ms. Morin questioned Restriction G. Mr. Blake explained that pine trees would
provide a year round screen. Fencing area would be another option.
Commissioner Peek asked if Special Use Permit is transferable. Bosell stated
the Special Use Permit is to. the property.
Bosell recommended Restriction H be deleted because there are no violations on
record and seven days is more restrictive than current ordinance.
Commissioner Sabel wants a copy of current admission requirements and policies.
Sabel suggests Restriction F not be striken but instead be amended to require
adequate turn around space. Sabel stressed that steps must be taken to foster
better communication with neighbors.
Spotts made a motion to close the Public Hearing. Second to motion was made
by Ferris. All commissioners agreed to motion; Public Hearing closed.
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commissioner Jovanovich asked why so many counties are included in home. Roeger
replied that state licensing opens home to all counties in state.
Commissioner Vistad wants opinion from City Attorney as to whether city can restrict
home from serving residents with sex offenses. Ferris asked that City Attorney
also verify that a group home is technically a rest home and not a home occupation,
as defined in CityOrdinance.
Applicants agreed to submit updated version of "Purpose of Emergency Shelters."
MOTION made by Ron Ferris to table discussion on Reoger Special Use Permit
Application to 10/24/89 pending City Attorney opinion on:
1) restrictions as to potential omission of sex offenders within group home
2) agreement that this concurs with rest home under existing Ordinance
3) is not found to be a home occupation
4) receipt of updated "Purpose of Emergency Shelters"
All information is to be available to commission by 10/24/89. Second to motion
by Wayne Vistad. Commissioners polled, all favor motion; discussion tabled
to 10/24/89 Planning and zoning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Vistad left meeting at conclusion of Roeger Special Use Permit
discussion.
Home and Business Alarm System Ordinance
Brad Campbell was present to address issues regarding Police Department response
to home and/or business alarm systems. Out of the last 307 alarm calls only
three were actually burglaries and in only one case was the burglar apprehended.
Homeowner or alarm company cancelled 41 of the 307 calls.
Campbell was asked his opinion on city adopting an alarm system ordinance.
Campbell replied he can neither recommend nor disuade such an ordinance.
commissioner Ferris asked if deputy response time is affected when call is for
address that frequently has false alarms. Campbell answered response time should
not be affected. There is a danger of responding officer and/or neighbors to
become complacent when false alarms routinely occur at an address.
Campbell believes the
of systems installed.
should city decide to
increase in false alarms is due to the increase in number
His office will assist City of Andover by offering suggestions,
create ordinance.
Ferris asked what expense is involved in responding to a false alarm. Campbell
stated time involved (15 minutes each for two officers), use of squad, gas, etc.
would be factors in determining cost. A rough estimate might be $25.00 per call
to false alarm. He added that community is also losing patrol time when officers
respond to false alarms.
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Ferris noted that E, Page 2 of proposed alarm system ordinance may become very
involved and time consuming. He questioned if additional staff would be necessary
to monitor record keeping/paperwork.
Bosell believes enforcement of ordinance would fall under Planning and zoning
Department. If ordinance proves to generate revenue perhaps additional staff
could be hired.
It was reconunended that # be rewritten to state "Upon receipt of a second false
alarm report at an address, the Clerk shall notify the alarm user by certified
mail that an alarm user's surcharge fee shall be paid after the third and
subsequent false alarm within any calendar year...."
It was determined that a notice will be sent for each alarm response, but a charge
would be initiated only once in a two week period. This will allow owner to find
and correct problem with alarm system.
A suggested schedule for surcharge fee follows:
1st "false alarm"
2nd "
3,4,5
6,7,8
9,10,11
12 or more
No charge
Certified letter
$ 30.00 fee
60.00 fee
90.00 fee
120.00 maximum
City is to include two week grace period after installation of alarm system before
ordinance surcharge fee applicable.
Blake will amend proposed ordinance as discussed and ask Campbell to review.
Further discussion of Home and Business Alarm System Ordinance will be carried
over to November 14 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Conunission.
Ordinance 8 and 23
A draft of revised Ordinance 8 and 23 was presented to Planning and Zoning
Conunission. A public hearing will be held 11/28/89. It is expected there will
be a large turn out at hearing.
the meaning of "occupied" as it relates to
Also, Bosell will have available at 11/28/89
equines (donkeys, burrows, mules, etc.)
Bosell was asked to investigate
Section IV Shelter Requirements.
meeting a list of definations for
Ordinance 8 Amendment, Conunercial Vehicles
Questions remain concerning amending ordinance to allow larger trucks parked
in Andover. It was decided to draft ordinance and vote upon amended ordinance
when it is presented to Planning and Zoning Conunission
Gretchen Sabel made a MOTION to adjourn meeting. Second to motion by Don Spotts.
All conunissioners agreed to motion; meeting adjourned at 12:00.
Respectfully submitted,
Theresa Hogan