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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 7, 1990 n u o I) o CA~ 7:30 P.M. o o CITY of ANDOVER Park and Recreation Commission Meeting June 7, 1990 1. Call to Order 2. Residents Forum 3. Approval of Minutes 4. Ed Fields Lot Split Park Dedication 5. Ken Slyzuk Metes and Bounds Lot Split 6. Approve Softball Tournament Application - Greg Erickson 7. Ken Kobs Sketch Plan 8. Genthon Ponds Sketch Plan 9. 10. Chairman's Report 11. Adjournment o o o o o C}\.~ CITY of ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JUNE 07, 1990 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Rec~~ption Commission was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairperson Jeff Kieft~r on Thursday, June 07, 1990 at the Andover City Hall Offices, 1685 Crosstown Blvd., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Chairperson Kieffer, Jim Lindahl, Darrell Delarco, Marc McMullen, William Mamlock Commissioners Absent: Tom Anderson, David Woods Others Present: Frank Stone RESIDENTS FORUM 1) Rick Ramseyer, 3420 152nd lane, Andover, represented Josh Ramseyer, Scout, who proposed putting in a bluebird trail in Kelsey Park at an April 05, 1990 commission meeting. Plans of the bluebird house and proposed trail in the park were submitted to the commissioners for examination. The project consists of placing twenty-four houses along a "trail", Jeff cleaning out the houses periodically, and a sign erected in the park explaining the project. Chairman Kieffer volunteered to supervise. He also suggested that pegs be installed inside the opening of the house to discourage predetors. A permit from the park board would be issued, so that the Ramseyers could use a small lawn tractor to haul things for the project into the park. 2) Melanie Deluca reported that there are 1,567 registrations in the Andover summer program. This figure surpasses all districts. The program begins June 18th, 1990. A full report will be given at a later time. , \ \.J' Andover Park and Recreation Commission 6/07/90 Meeting Minutes, page 2 f-.J , "- , J APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion made by Lindahl, seconded by DeLarco, to approve the minutes of the May 03, 1990 Park and Recreation Commission meeting. Passed unanimously. ADD TO THE AGENDA Chairman Kieffer added Park Dedication (#9) to the agenda. ED FIELDS LOT SPLIT PARK DEDICATION Ed Fields was not present. Frank Stone recommended moving the issue forward. "\ \) Motion by McMullen, seconded by Lindahl to adjust the agenda and proceed with discussion of Park Dedication, #9 on the agenda. Passed unanimously. PARKDEDICATION The commission discussed re-writing the ordinance concerning lot splits/metes and bounds. It has been challenged by Eugene Brown and discussed in a special meeting with the city council and commissioners, which occurred May 29, 1990. Chairperson Kieffer stated that, according to the city attorney, it is illegal to charge 10% of market value plus an appraisal fee. Commissioner McMullen thought that the park dedication should be 10% and have the city pay one assessor fee, rather than change the ordinance. The city council and Chairperson Kieffer had agreed that a set fee would be easier to work with. Chairperson Kieffer said that decisions reached at this time would be based on what is already written. The ordinance would be placed on the city council agenda for June 19, 1990. Motion by McMullen, seconded by Mamlock, to deduct at the time of closing, the cost of the appraisal for one time and in discussion, if there is a question , / , \ ....J Andover Park and Recreation Commission 6/07/W Meeting Minutes, page 3 o , , .J on the amount of appraisal, a second appraisal would be borne by the owner, with the concurrence of the city attorney. Passed unamimously. Discussion: It was felt this would be a fair method of arriving at fair prices and refers only to metes and bounds and lot splits. Chairperson Kieffer added that city council did vote to conceive the feasibility of the city attorney drafting an ordinance, in determining park dedication, using a flat fee or 10%. Motion by DeLarco, seconded by McMullen, regarding the Ed Fields Lot Split Park Dedication and the owner's absence at this meeting, to use the ordinance as written at this time, placing the money in escrow until a decision is reached by council. KEN SL YZUK METES AND BOUNDS LOT SPLIT , , ) In addressing Ken Slyzuk, Chairperson Kieffer reiterated that the commission was in the process of possibily changing the ordinance on park dedication, but that at this time, an appraisor would be hired, and park dedication would be 10% of that figure. Ken Slyzuk, 15211 Nightengale St., Andover, argued that the ordinance on park dedication did not treat him fairly. Title was to be transferred within his family. He requested a copy of Ordinance 10, Section 9.07. Commissioner DeLarco suggested that, if Slyzuk questioned the value of his land, the city would hire an appraisor and he would pay that fee plus 10% for park dedication. Under the circumstances, pending the change proposed, the appraisal fee would be deducted off park dedication. Subsequent appraisals would be borne by Mr. Slyzuk. Commissioner McMullen added that Mr. Slyzuk could place the money in escrow (re: Mr. Fields) until a decision was made by council . After further discussion, Commissioner Lindahl suggested Mr. Slyzuk take issue with the city council. Mr. Slyzuk stated that he thought his permit was pulled before the ordinance was changed. Commissioners suggested he contact the city attorney concerning the ruling. Mr. Slyzuk said that he couldn't record transfer title of house until park dedication is paid. Chairperson Kieffer advised "holding off" if he disagreed, pending the change in the ordinance. , / '\ '-.J \.J Andover Park and Recreation Commission 6/07/90 Meeting Minutes, page 4 " ) KEN KOBS SKETCH PLAN Ken Kobs, 12179 Mississippi Drive, Champlin, presented a sketch plan on land acreage by 168th and Tulip. Approximately nine lots are involved, 33 acres; the commission would get 10% of the land. Frank Stone recommended looking for a more centralized location for a park in the area. Motion by McMullen, seconded by Mamlock, to accept money in lieu of land for park dedication. Passed unanimously. Discussion: Commissioner McMullen noted that future park boards should designate something in that area as park land. Chairperson Kieffer clarified that, as a developer, Kobs would be paying 10% plus an appraiser fee. A question arose from a resident concerning possible usage of county assessment in determining park dedication. Discussion followed. , ) GENTHON PONDS SKETCH PLAN A representative for Genthon Ponds presented a sketch plan. Much of the 40 acres is wetland; approximately 13 lots will be developed. Ham Lake has a park near the area. The commissioners did not see potential park land in the area. Commissioner DeLarco said that if the property is purchased within 6 months, it would be feasible for the commission to base park dedication fee on the purchase price of the property. Checking with Todd Haas or the city attorney was recommended. Motion by Mamlock, seconded by McMullen, to accept cash in lieu of land in Genthon Pond, advising Todd Haas to check the purchase price of the property with the city attorn~y to se~ if the commission could use that rather than an appraisal to determine park dedication. Passed unanimously. " / , "1 ,,--J '~ Andover Park and Recreation Commission 6/07/90 Meeting Minutes, page 5 '\ ) APPROVE SOFTBAll TOURNAMENT APPLICATION GREG ERICKSON Commission Kieffer requested an up-date on the typed application form for tournaments: list all four fields, at $150 a field. Motion by Mamlock, seconded by McMullen, to accept application by Greg Erickson for June 23 and 24 for city park ball fields at $150jfield, a total of $450 for fields 1,2,3. Passed unanimously. Discussion: Recommendation made by Frank Stone, that a lawn tractor, not a 3-wheeler be used to drag or maintain the fields. Chairperson Kieffer recommended, in addition to the motion: city staff to notify sheriff's department of the tournament. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT :.) Chairperson Kieffer reported that a resident complained of people using his front yard to get to Terrace Park. Chairperson Kieffer advised that Terrace Park should be given priority for a parking lot next year. There is no sidewalk; the only parking is on the street. Frank Stone suggested that the commission draft plans, so the parking lot can be included in next year's budget. Re: Hockey Rink. Commissioner McMullen stated that an original plan allowed $10,000 for two hockey rinks. He suggested that two rinks should be built, as the bid was low, $4800 for one rink. Chairperson Kieffer said there was not too much interest expressed in a hockey league, that it might warrant building only one, and use the remaining money on something else. He agreed it was a good price, but that the money would come out of dedication. After discussion, the commission decided to check out the feasibility of the bid, to see if the price quoted for one rink would apply for two (at $4800 each), and subsequently figure out where to put it. '\ ) " \ \...J 10 Andover Park and Recreation Commission 6/07/90 Meeting Minutes, page 6 . '\ ,) Frank Stone informed the commission that the striping of baseball fields would begin on Friday or Monday of that week. Motion by Mamlock, seconded by Lindahl to adjourn the meeting at 9:30 p.m. Passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, K~f~ Karen Plummer, Recording Secretary '\ '.J , )