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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
JANUARY 09, 1990
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Rebecca Pease at 7:35 P.M. on Tuesday,
January 9, 1990 at the Andover City Hall Offices, 1685 Crosstown Blvd.,
Andover, MN.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Pease, Bev Jovanovich, Ron Ferris, Randal Peek,
Gretchen Sabel, Don Spotts, Wayne Vistad
Others Present: Jay Blake, Todd Haas, Jim Schrantz
Re-appointment of Members
Rebecca Pease, Bev Jovanovich, and Randal Peek were sworn in by Jim Schrantz
as continuing members of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission. Rebecca Pease
was re-appointed as Chairperson for 1990.
Approval of Minutes
Bev Jovanovich noted a spelling error on page five of the 12/12/89 Planning and
zoning Commission minutes. Error was on last line of seventh paragraph from
bottom. Line should read "truck (rather than truch) transfer station." Also
noted by Jovanovich was a spelling error on page eight, last line of fifth
paragraph from bottom. Line should read "by Bev (rather than Vev) Jovanovich...."
MOTION by Don Spotts to approve minutes as corrected of the 12/12/89 Planning
and zoning Commission meeting.
Second to motion by Wayne Vistad.
All commissioners favor motion; minutes of 12/12/89 Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting approved.
Ed Fields & Sons Lot Split Request
The Planning and Zoning Commission was requested to table this item until such
time the applicant requests it be rescheduled.
MOTION made by commissioner Ferris to table discussion on Ed Fields and Sons
Lot Split Request until Mr. Fields requests matter be rescheduled on agenda.
Second to motion by Wayne vistad.
All commissioners favored motion; item tabled.
Alarm Ordinance
A Public Hearing regarding alarm ordinance was opened and closed on 12/12/89.
A revised alarm ordinance was presented to Planning and zoning Commission 1/09/90
by Jay Blake.
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Included are the following changes:
City Attorney William Hawkins suggested Section J, page 2 of the ordinance,
use the term "register" rather than "permit."
Hawkins also suggested the addition of a penalty clause. Revised ordinance
includes Section 6 - Penalty.
Also included is a person who doesn't register would have first false
alarm charged.
Pease questioned how a petty misdemeanor would be enforced.
Blake replied charge would be forwarded to City Attorney's Office if not paid,
as are other zoning infractions.
Vistadrequested Section 2A be clarified to read "The City of Andover shall require
registration for existing alarm systems, the installation of any new alarm
system, or the upgrading of an existing alarm system within the City of Andover."
Commissioner Peek recommended the second sentence of Section 2E be changed to
read "A separate surcharge fee shall be charged to the alarm user for each
subsequent false alarm over three (3) within any calendar year."
Peek also questioned why penalty for alarm ordinance differs from penalty for
other zoning infractions.
Pease noted penalty could be upgraded from petty misdemeanor to misdemeanor if
necessary.
Blake explained that administrative costs were projected based on the number
of false alarms anticipated for the upcoming year (350 - 400). The cost for
time involved to produce a form letter will be approximately $5.00 - $10.00.
Combined with the deputy time to respond to a false alarm (estimated at $30.00)
ad ~inistative costs will run from $35.00 - $40.00.
Ferris asked what response was received from sheriff in regard to alarm ordinance.
Although a copy of alarm ordinance was sent to the Anoka County Sheriff Department,
Blake reported there was no response.
Commissioner Ferris recommended the last sentence of Section 2G be changed to
read "A notice of each false alarm will be left with the alarm user after each
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occurance by Anoka County Deputy.
The process for collection of fees (not to escalate) is explained in the second
paragraph of 2G. Commissioner vis tad recommended the alarm user be given 21
calendar days (rather than 10 days) to pay the fee. All commissioners agreed
to this change.
Pease stated Planning and zoning Commission should give recommendation to City
Council on fee amount based on staff estimate of administrative costs combined
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with sheriff's estimate of cost to respond.
Peek recommended second sentence of Section 2C be changed to read "Failure to
register the alarm system within six months of the enactment of the ordinance
will result in an alarm user's surcharge fee being assessed upon the first and
subsequent false alarm at that address until registration. II
Commissioner Ferris recommended the surcharge be $40.00 and the registration
fee be $5.00. Surcharge be based on the following:
Deputy Cost
Certified mail
Administrative cost
$30.00
2.00
8.00
$4C'.00
Registration fee of $5.00 is estimated break even for staff time.
Blake explained the actual administrative cost would vary depending on which
staff person (relating to their pay scale) registered the alarm user. A varied
amount of time would be spent going through ordinance with alarm user and
answering questions.
Ferris recommends the registration form be drafted before the ordinance is
presented to City Council.
Blake noted a suggestion was to mail registration form with next newsletter.
Newsletter is scheduled for February 1990.
Blake also noted the City Council can set a specific effective date for
ordinance.
Fee can be examined in one year using history of costs involved.
Commissioners agreed it would not be necessary to see corrected draft of ordinance
before it is presented to City Council.
MOTION made by Commissioner Ferris that the Andover Planning and zoning Commission
forward for approval to the Andover City Council, the ordinance regulating the
installation and operation of home and business alarm systems in the City of
Andover. A Public Hearing was held on 12/12/89. Questions were asked but no
serious concerns were voiced regarding ordinance as presented at Public Hearing.
It is further recommended that City Council consider the fOllowing fees:
Registration fee of $5.00 and Surcharge fee of $40.00.
Second to motion by Wayne Vistad.
All commissioners favored motion; MOTION passed. Motion will be forwarded to
City Council 2/06/90.
Hunting Ordinance Discussion
The Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
regulating the discharge of firearms.
was asked to review the ordinance
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There have been several requests from residents along Hanson Blvd., for an
amendment that would disallow the discharge of firearms further north on Hanson.
Ordinance was last amended in 1985.
Haas requested Planning and Zoning Commission call a Public Hearing to obtain
public input to assure ordinance amendment will accurately reflect public
opinion.
Haas stated boundaries must be changed as currently hunting is allowed around
school.
Ferris noted that existing Ordinance Section 2A states "No person shall discharge
a firearm or bow and arrow within 500 feet of any residence". This should
prohibit almost every platted area. Ferris stated his belief that the discharge
of firearms or bow and arrow should be restricted to within 500 feet of any
property line.
Vistad stated it is more difficult to distinguish property lines than a residence.
Blake stated that current boundaries are based on major east/west roads.
Bev Jovanovich doesn't believe shooting should be allowed within city limits of
Andover.
Haas noted state allows slugs only below Cambridge.
Blake stated commission should take into consideration the deer population.
Vistad suggested handling control of deer population by Special Permit as is
done in Fort Snelling.
Haas noted that bow hunting is allowed by Special Permit in Blaine. Hunter
must obtain written permission from property owner and be registered with city.
Currently hunting is allowed up to l59th on the Ramsey side of river, but not
on Andover side.
Notice that this ordinance is being discussed will be aired on cable TV and
included in City newsletter.
Haas suggested the area game manager be asked to give his expertise on the deer
population in area; why or why not hunting should be allowed in certain areas, etc.
Sabel questioned if there are state guidelines for city hunting ordinances.
Blake recommended as resources the use of Minnesota State Statutes and the League
of Minnesota cities which gives a list of all communities that have hunting
ordinances.
Ferris recommended seeking the sheriff's opinion regarding safety and other issues.
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Pease stated the Comprehensive Plan ideal is to preserve rural aspects of city.
Sabel asked if BB guns fall under the definition of firearms. Haas answered
that BB guns do fall under the definition of firearms.
Sabel suggested definition be changed to bows rather than long bows; thus
covering long bows, compound and cross.
Sabel recommended ordinance include trapping.
Blake questioned if the intent of Ordinance 62 is hunting or if the intent is
the discharge of firearms. The term discharge of firearms covers target
shooting, which is not hunting.
Blake stated staff will do additional work on this matter and present commission
with information on issues raised.
Ferris recommended that Blake review comments by experts in area of hunting,
firearms, etc. to public before Public Hearing is opened.
Vistad recommended notice of issue be well publicized.
Pease requested staff research restrictions imposed by Blaine, Ramsey and Ham Lake
in regard to hunting/firearms ordinances.
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Ferris requested staff contact DNR to determine legality and/or restrictions
regarding the trapping of beaver.
Blake will schedule further discussion of Ordinance 62 for February agenda.
Department Goals
A list of accomplishments within the Planning Department during 1989 was included
in the packet to the Planning and zoning commission members.
Blake noted the successful clean-up of hundreds of properties in the City
commercial and residential districts was an extremely important project.
establishment of an Economic Development Committee is another important
accomplishment for the Planning Department.
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Vistad questioned why city has not enlisted professionals experienced in the
area of commercial marketing to handle the marketing of Commercial Park.
Blake stated initial sales expectations for park were high. Surrounding communities
have provided competition by offering incentives for businesses in their
commercial parks.
A list of Planning Department goals for 1990 was included in the packet to Planning
and Zoning Commission.
MOTION made by Commissioner Sabel to adjourn. Second to motion by Don Spotts.
All commissioners favor motion; meeting adjourned at 9:10 P.M.
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