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Home My WebLink AboutMay 7, 1992 o o o ~ CITY of ANDOVER Park and Recreation Commission Meeting May 7, 1992 7:30 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Residents Forum 3. Approval of Minutes 4. Pleasant Oaks Park Informational Meeting 5. Anoka Football Boosters Cleanup Day 6. Dan Christensen Sketch Plan 7. 8. Chairman's Report o 9. Adjournment NOTE: MEET AT 6:45 PM AT TIMBER TRAILS <J o o o -, lJ o ~ CITY of ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - MAY 7, 1992 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jeff Kieffer on May 7, 1992, 7:35 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Tom Anderson, Mike Auger, Darrell DeLarco, David Woods Jim Lindahl, Roger Paulson Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas Others Commissioners absent: Also present: RESIDENT FORUM Stan Carlson. Diversified Fiberalass. Inc. - has been making playground equipment for Hennepin County parks that has a nature theme. Examples are a dragon fly as a teeter-totter and the eyes such that the children can look through the spheres much as the dragon fly does and a hollow tree with actual size woodpecker nesting holes and other amenities of a decayed elm tree with some of the bark removed. They are bUilding an outdoor classroom where schools can bring the children to learn about the different things in nature. Chairperson Kieffer thought it might be something worth looking into for Kelsey-Round Lake Park. Mr. Carlson envisioned toadstools and other Items along the trails for people to sit on in the Kelsey-Round Lake Park. The equipment is fire retardant. Costs will vary, noting his price of $700 for the flower he constructed. The Commissioners viewed some of his equipment after the meeting. PLEASANT OAKS PARK INFORMATIONAL MEETING Bob Fox - stated he told the others in the neighborhood about this meeting, but he is the only one present. He was hoping to see some plans for the park to see what the City has in mind for its development. He wanted to know how many trees would be removed, not wanting any more taken out than is necessary; and he preferred a smaller parking lot and using the road for parking. Mr. Haas stated he did not have time to do any plans, but the contractor in the development to the west has bid a cost of $6,550 to grade the park and remove the top soil. The contractor is willing to reduce the bid by $500 if he is allowed to take off the trees for the wood and dispose of the stumps. The ordinance does not allow the parking to be on the streets. , " u ,. \ \.j ~~ Andove~ Pa~k and Rec~eation Commission Meeting Minutes - May 7, 1992 Page 2 (Pleasant Oaks Pa~k Info~mational Meeting, Continued> Afte~ fu~the~ discussion, it was ag~eed the~e needs to be a small pa~king lot, p~obably 10 pa~king stalls, with Class 5 su~facing and timbe~s a~ound it. The intent is to const~uct a ball field fo~ neighbo~hood use; howeve~, with the p~essu~es fo~ additional ball fields, it is p~obable that the field would be used fo~ youth ball leagues. M~. Fox asked that a ho~seshoe pIt be const~ucted. The CommIssIon felt that was an excellent Idea. M~. Haas also explaIned the g~adlng wIll be g~adual f~om the fences, whIch a~e on the p~ope~ty lIne. He also suggested plantIng pIne t~ees along the fences and between the fence and the pa~klng lot. The CommIssIon noted the cost Is app~oxlmately $1,000 ove~ what was budgeted fo~ the g~adlng. The budget was fo~ $5,000 to be taken f~om pa~k dedIcatIon funds. M~. Haas also noted that addItIonal dedIcatIon funds wIll be ~ecelved f~om The Meadows of Round Lake plat. PublIc Wo~ks pe~sonnel wIll have to move the existIng equipment befo~e it is g~aded. ~J M~. Fox asked about the maIntenance of the pa~k once It is developed. ChaI~pe~son Kleffe~ stated it will be Included in the ~egula~ pa~k maintenance schedule. Once it Is g~aded, the CIty has an ObligatIon to mal ntai nIt. It was ag~eed that once It Is g~aded, M~. Haas wIll do a ~ough sketch fo~ the placement of the t~ees, ballfield, pa~king lot, and playg~ound equIpment, then Invite the neIghbo~hood back In to see the p~oposal. MOTION by DeLa~co, Seconded by Woods, to ~ecommend No~th PIne Agg~egate, Inc., ~eg~ade Pleasant Oaks Pa~k at a cost not to exceed $6,000, wIth the addItIonal $1,000 ove~ the budgeted amount to come out of pa~k dedIcatIon. MotIon ca~~Ied on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (LIndahl, Paulson> vote. ANOKA FOOTBALL BOOSTERS CLEANUP DAY ChaI~pe~son Kieffe~ ~emlnded the CommIssIon of the Anoka Football Booste~s Cleanup Day on Satu~day, May 9, to clean up the Kelsey-Round Lake Pa~k. Seve~al Commlsslone~s we~e unable to attend o~ could attend only the ea~ly mo~nlng. The~e was a conce~n of not beIng able to t~anspo~t the 21 kIds to the pa~k and then back agaIn. It was ag~eed to coo~dlnate the detaIls afte~ the meetIng. The CommIssIon also noted that KevIn Sta~~ had ag~eed to p~ovlde a dumpste~ In the pa~k fo~ the t~ash and deb~Is. No fu~the~ actIon was taken by the CommIssIon. :~ , I , ~/ / Andove~ Pa~k and Rec~eation Commission Meeting Minutes - May 7, 1992 Page 3 DAN CHRISTENSEN SKETCH PLAN M~. Haas explained the Comp~ehensive Plan does not call fo~ a pa~k in the a~ea of the p~oposed plat, that being C~osstown Bouleva~d and 170th Avenue. Dan Ch~istensen - stated the~e is wate~ in Lake Leman, but it is shallow with about 150 feet of weeds befo~e the open wate~. The plat is about 30 ac~es. Lot 6 is a small lot now, but it was 2.5 ac~es befo~e the county widened C~osstown Bouleva~d a few yea~s ago. He noted the~e is a very nice park near by in Pinger's AddItion in Ham Lake. The Commission agreed to take cash in lieu of land for park dedication, which would be 10 percent of the raw market value of the land. It was agreed an appraIsal should be done on the property, the cost of which is deducted from the 10 percent dedication. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Ap~Il 16, 1992 - Correct as written. , / MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Woods, to accept them as written. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, (KIeffer, Anderson, DeLa~co, Woods), 1-Present (Auger), 2-Absent (Lindahl, Paulson) vote. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK DEVELOPMENT - Chai~person Kieffer reviewed the CouncIl actIon at thei~ May 5 meeting in which the motion to accept the grant with a parking lot at the end of 149th was defeated. There was no motIon to decline the g~ant or to desIgnate the parking lot at the end of 151st. He repo~ted he, the Mayor and Staff wIll be meeting with State representatives tomor~ow on the enti~e matter. Mr. Haas noted six access to the pa~k, including the main parkIng lot, will exist. Commissioners DeLarco and Anderson expressed their opinion that the City Council did not suppo~t the Commission at the May 5 meeting. As a g~oUp the Commission spent a fair amount of time researching the matter and made a recommendation. They felt they we~e attacked, and the ChaI~person personally attacked for things that were not true, and we~e disappoInted in the handling of the matte~ by the CouncIl. / Chai~pe~son KIeffe~ also stated he wished to look furthe~ into the false accusations made agaInst the CommIssion and himself personally at that May 5 meeting. He felt there was a breakdown of communicatIon between the Pa~k CommissIon and the CIty Council, whIch needs to be , " '-) ( , ,--" " Andove~ Pa~k and Rec~eation Commission Meeting Minutes - May 7, 1992 Page 4 ) (Chai~man/s Repo~t, Continued' add~essed. Once the Council knew of thei~ ~ecommendation, he felt the~e should not have been any su~p~ises f~om the CouncIl and questions should have been add~essed p~Io~ to the pUblic hea~ing. He also exp~essed disappointment that the Council did not stop the false accusations made against him and the Commission. Chai~pe~son Kieffe~ suggested that at theI~ next meeting, the Commission ~equest a Joint meeting with the CIty Council ~ega~ding thIs issue, the development of the a~ea immediately south of the City Hall, plus othe~ Issues. BUDGET - The CommIssion noted the May 6, 1992, memo f~om the City/s Finance Di~ecto~, Howa~d Koolick. The question was asked why the change to be made to the budget if the g~ant funds a~e not accepted fo~ Kelsey-Round Lake Pa~k cannot be done withIn a few weeks ~athe~ than a few months. Chai~pe~son Kieffe~ stated much will depend on the ~esults of the meeting tomo~~ow wIth the State ~ep~esentatives. He will also talk with M~. Koolick about having an updated Pa~k Budget eve~y second meeting of the month. ) BALL FIELDS - WIth the g~eat demand fo~ ball fields, the CommIssion ) felt the athletic associations will need to look at p~acticing and plaYing on F~iday nights and Satu~days to mo~e fully utilize existing fields. MOTION by Ande~son, Seconded by Woods, to adJou~n. Motion ca~~ied on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (Lindahl, Paulson' vote. Meeting adJou~ned at 8:42 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~~k~~ Ma~cella A. Peach Reco~ding Sec~eta~y /