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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 19, 1992 o o o rJ\ o o CITY of ANDOVER Joint City Council/Park and Recreation Commission Meeting March 19, 1992 7:30 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Residents Forum 3. Public Hearing - Kelsey-Round Lake Park 4. Approval of Minutes 5. Weybridge Park Dedication Proposal 6. Andover Community School Update 7. Approve 1992 Soccer Schedule 8. Approve 1992 Park Capital Equipment 9. 1992 Monthly Park Dedication and Capital Expenditure Report 10. 11. Chairman's Report 12. Adjournment o o o o o ~ CITY of ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES MARCH 19, 1992 A brief adjournment of the regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission occurred at approximately 8:30 p.m. on Thursday, March 19, 1992 at the Andover City Hall Offices, 1685 Crosstown Blvd., Andover, MN. after a public hearing on Kelsey-Round Lake Park. The meeting resumed and was called to order at 8:35 p.m. by Chairperson Jeff Kieffer. Commissioner Paulson left at this time. Commissioners Present: Tom Anderson, David Woods, Jim Lindahl, Jeff Kieffer, Mike Auger, Darrell DeLarco, Commissioners Absent: Roger Paulson Others Present: Frank Stone, Kevin Starr, Todd Haas ADDITION TO THE AGENDA A request was made to add the Holmberg Park Dedication Proposal to the agenda. WEYBRIDGE PARK DEDICATION PROPOSAL The Park and Recreation Commission reviewed the proposal for the dedication of park in the plat of Weybridge as requested by Jerry Windschitl of Ashford Development Co., Inc. The last appraisal prepared within the MUSA (Metropolitan Urban Service Area) is Hidden Creek East 3rd Addition. The estimated market value in September 1990 was approximately $5,720 per acre. Jerry Windschitl presented an offer of $5,720 per acre for dedication. Both Commissioner DeLarco and Commissioner Anderson expressed a need for a new appraisal of estimated market value because a year and a half had passed u \J Andover Park and Recreation Commission 03/19/CJ2 Meeting Minutes, page 2 '\ ,_-.J since the original one. According to Mr. Windschitl, the acceptance of park dedication for Good Value was also based on an out-dated appraisal (September 1990), and he resented the fact that his offer was being enforced differently. Commissioner Lindahl said that Mr. Windschitl's area was different from Good Value's, although the appraisal took place in the same time frame. Moreover, the commission feels they cannot judge the amount offered objectively, as they "aren't appraisers". Commissioner Anderson further noted there is a difference in acreage between the two developments, that of a minimal .6 of an acre for Good Value and 1.54 acres for Mr. Windschitl. .) Chairperson Kieffer justified the reasoning for Creek East's approval (Good Value) being that of physical size, but felt that the Park Board should set a precedence according to acreage; that is, if the proposed park dedication is over a certain acreage and time period, an appraisal should be required. Commissioner Lindahl felt there had been an increase in property values over the time since the original appraisal, but wondered if the dollar amount was enough to cause an issue on this particular park dedication. He also felt that Mr. Windschitl had made changes after consulting with Frank Stone, Todd Haas and the park board, and at this point, questioned the commission's reluctance to accept the proposed park dedication. After further discussion, Chairperson Kieffer asked the commission for two motions: 1) to accept Jerry Windschitl's offer of $5,720 for park dedication and 2) to establish guidelines for future park dedication proposals concerning appraisals. MOTION by Lindahl, seconded by Auger, to accept $5,720jacre as presented in good faith with provision by the land owner. Motion passed on a 5-yes, l-no, l-absent vote; Commissioner Anderson voting 'no". MOTION by Auger to establish a policy of appraisal of park dedicated land: no appraisal is required if an occurrence is less than 90 (ninety) days, but is required if the acreage involved is greater than one acre. Discussion occurred. Mr. Haas suggested incorporating a policy into an ordinance change. Commissioner DeLarco referred to a letter from Mr. Windschitl to Mr. Haas concerning Weybridge Park Dedication, dated March 13, 1992. He would like more information on Phase II dates and would like Mr. '. ) Windschitl to appear before the commission again. The commissioners o () Andover Park and Recreation Commission 03/19/92 Meeting Minutes, page 3 "- ) definitely felt they needed a standard procedure regarding park dedication appraisals. The commissioners dropped Commissioner's Auger's motion and agreed with Mr. Haas. The city ordinance will be re-written so that a proposal of park dedication presented to the park board is based on an appraisal taken within six months; if not, the owner is required to make a new appraisal of that property being developed, the park dedication and appraisal fee equaling 10% (ten per cent) of raw undeveloped land or an equivalent amount in cash. To incorproate this policy, an ordinance change is required. Steps will be taken to do so. HOLMBERG PARK DEDICATION PROPSAL Mr. Holmberg stated that he would like his park dedication to be based on what he paid for the property, not what it is worth today. He offered $3,045 an acre. "J Mr. Haas was asked to define "appraiser" per the ordinance. According to Mr. Haas, the ordinance refers to an "accredited appraiser chosen by the Park and Recreation Commission", which is interpreted as a licensed appraiser. Mr. Holmberg will need about $300 to have the property appraised. He will be meeting again with the park board. RESIDENTS FORUM Rick Oelschlager of 2644 140th Lane N.w., Andover, suggested that a vacant field (next to the tennis court) at Northwoods Addition Park be used as a practice field. He suggested that a fence, ag lime and weed control would improve the lot so it could be used as a soccer practice field. Chairperson Kieffer thought the commissioners should visit that park to see what could be done. ~) (J (~ Andover Park and Recreation Commission 03/19/'l2 Meeting Minutes, page 4 '\ " ./ APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner DeLarco noted on the March 05, 1992 minutes, near the bottom of page 2, should read "MOTION by Wood, seconded by Anderson. . ." rather than "seconded by Andover". MOTION by Woods, seconded by Anderson, to approve the March 05, 1992 minutes as corrected. Motion passed unanimously. ANDOVER COMMUNITY SCHOOL UPDATE Nancy Knop from Andover/Crooked Lake Community Schools discussed the 1991 Annual Report with the Park and Recreation Commission. '\ \...J Commissioner Lindahl expressed concern about Monday/Wednesday night men's basketball. He recommended a capacity of 35 people and the establishment of a policy to maintain it. Ms. Knop reminded the commission that she was hired through June. She said the summer program will remain about the same. Mary Judd of Andover Community School and Wade Thommen of Crooked Lake Community School handed out brochures and explained their program. Chairperson Kieffer asked how instructors were chosen. The community school staff said that teachers, college students, etc. were selected through applications and received inservice training and supervision. Community school programs and work are much appreciated by the park board. :_J ~j u Andover Park and Recreation Commission 03/19/'l2 Meeting Minutes, page 5 '\ , I APPROVE 1992 SOCCER SCHEDULE The Park and Recreation Commission discussed the 1992 Soccer Field Schedule with Marc McMullen of the North Metro Soccer Club and a representative from the Andover Soccer Club. It was established that Oak Bluff needs nets and post for "under 10" size. On Wednesday, tens will play; the rest of the week is reserved for eights. The soccer club representatives said Forest Meadows will be used for tens and eights; Hawkridge is used for practice, Fox Meadows is used every night and Hidden Creek has too many stickers to be used. The park board suggested using Hidden Creek for ages six and eight; Hidden Creek is "open" every night and in an improved condition. \ J Mr. McMullen expressed that the schedule was "cramped"; North Metro has thirty teams and Andover has five. MOTION by DeLarco, seconded by Woods, to accept the 1992 soccer schedule. Motion passed; 6 yes, 1-absent. APPROVE 1992 PARK CAPITAL EQUIPMENT The park board discussed just a little of the park capital equipment budget and decided to continue discussion at the next meeting. Commissioner Lindahl said that parks have to be regulated with a new compliance with ADA and must have a plan to renovate existing parks as well as incorporating same into new parks. Chairperson Kieffer asked whether parks should be in the business of developing roads (within parks). Commissioner DeLarco expressed that if "parks" has paid for roads, they shouldn't have to pay for fixing them when park equipment does the damage. , \ '_ .J (~ (.J Andover Park and Recreation Commission 03/19/':12 Meeting Minutes, page 6 , ,) Commissioner Lindahl felt that field usage should be examined, considering maintenance and programs along with consideration of field capacities. He thought that it might be possible to set up a fee on field usage and set up a procedure for the whole system. Chairperson Kieffer declared the next meeting to be held at Northwoods at 7 p.m. on April 02, 1992. 1992 MONTHLY PARK EXPENDITURE REPORT DEDICATION AND CAPITAL Commissioner Anderson did not think that an accounting from December 14, 1991 to the current date was included in this report. Chairperson Kieffer will ask that the report be up-dated and discussed at the next meeting. ') MOTION by DeLarco, seconded by Anderson to adjourn at 10:40 p.m. Motion passed by the six commissioners present. Respectfully submitted, k~~~ Karen Plummer, Recording Secretary . '1 \.-l