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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION M~ETING - JUNE 9, 1992
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Bonnie Dehn on June 9,
1992, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hal I, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Maynard Apel, Steve Jonak, Bev Jovanovich
(arrived at 7:35 p.m.>, Randy Peek
Becky Pease, Marc McMullen
City Planner, David Carlberg
Others
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 26, 1992: Correct as written.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Peek, that the Minutes be approved as
presented. Motion carried on a 4-Yes (Apel, Dehn, Jonak, Peek>,
3-Absent (Jovanovich, Pease, McMullen> vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - MINING PERMIT. PARK
CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. LEROY JOHNSON PROPERTY
7:32 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Special Use Permit requested by
Park Construction Company for a mining permit on a portion of the
Leroy Johnnson property located north of Bunker Lake Boulevard NW and
east of Prairie Road NW. The proposal is to remove 500,000 cubic
yards of common and granular material from the site to be used in the
construction of State project 0214-10 located in Blaine. Trucks
leaving the site will travel east on Bunker Lake Boulevard to Highway
65, then south on Highway 65. They expect to begin in late June and
have an estimated date of completion of August, 1993. The
Comprehensive Plan indicates this area can be served by sanitary sewer
in the future, but it is in the Year 2000 to 2005 time frame. To make
sure the property is left in a buildable state, Staff is recommending
several requirements be added as conditions to the Permit. In
reviewing the proposal, there doesn't appear to be a problem with the
project as proposed yet retaining a buildable area upon completion.
(Commissioner Jovanovich arrived at this time; 7:35 p.m.>
Mr. Carlberg stated Staff feels the criteria set forth in the
ordinances will be met, though there is the concern of the large
amount of truck traffic that wil I be generated over the year. That
traffic will be going over county and state roads, not City roads.
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<PublIc Hearing: Special Use Permit/MIning, L. Johnson, Continued)
He then read the recommended conditIons of the Permit, noting a change
in No.9. Also, the Coon Creek Watershed Board approved the proposal
last evening, and the addItIon of Item 13, that the applIcant submIt
a development plan for the Andover RevIew Committee revIew and
approval. Mr. Carlberg explaIned the mInIng wIll be done In phases
to minImIze the erosIon. The development plan wIll show the proposed
road layoIut, lot shapes and confIguratIons and house pads. The
consultIng engIneers wIll revIew the proposal to be sure all ordInance
requIrements wIll be met. The fInal grades wIll be dIctated by the
development plan.
The hearIng was opened for publIc testImony.
Ms. C. Mohlencamp. 140 Andover Boulevard - asked how many acres are
involved and how large Is the parcel owned by Mr. Johnson.
Leroy Johnson. 125 Bunker Lake Boulevard - stated the area to be
mIned Is approximately 39 acres. He owns a total of 325 acres.
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John Mohlencamp. 140 Andover Boulevard - owns ten acres south of the
creek. He wanted to know where the mining wil I be in relation to his
property. Mr. Carlberg gave an approxImate locatIon on an overhead
map. He saId no buffers wIll be needed because the minIng locatIon Is
approxImately 1/4 mIle from the edge of Mr. Johnson's property lInes.
There is a hIgh knoll to the northwest. The part to be mIned Is also
a hIgh treeless knoll that wII I be removed.
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Ed Gritton. 14157 PraIrie Road - asked about the knol I being mIned
and how far down It will go. He was concerned that the area wll I be
left an unsIghtly open sand pIt as was done along Hanson Boulevard
just north of Hwy 242. Mr. Carlberg explained enough wIll remaIn to
meet the standards for buIldIng and sanitary sewer and water. An open
pit will not be left there, as there are condItions in the PermIt
relatIng to restoratIon. EverythIng wIll be seeded and erosIon
controls Implemented. The application requIres Insurances and
escrows, whIch is somethIng the CommissIon may wIsh to add to the
Permit.
Mrs. Mohlencamp - asked what Is beIng taken out and can the CIty
guarantee that garbage wII I not be put In there. Mr. Carlberg
explained the majority of the material is sand. Also, the City will
be inspecting the site regularly to be sure that the terms of the
Permit are being followed and that clean fill Is put back for
restoration.
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) Tom ChouInard. 14123 PrairIe Road NW - belIeved hIs property is very
close to the mining site. He was very concerned about the accesses,
thInkIng that sIgns for "truck traffIc" are not adequate on Bunker
Lake Boulevard because that Is a busy road wIth a lot of bus traffIc.
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(Publ ic Hearing: Special Use Permit/Mining, L. Johnson, Continued)
He was also concerned that the bluff being mined will be very visible
to the residents behind it, and he was afraid of the dust, the noise
of vehicles, and the effects on the horses. He didn't feel the
residents were given any assurances on how the land wil I be left
aesthetically or the details to assure them the mining itself will not
adversely affect their rights. Also, there is a lot of low land back
there, and he was concerned about where the topsoil will be
stockpiled. Mr. Chouinard wanted to see where his property was in
relation to the mining site, feeling it is very close. All the people
around the creek are ranchers and can see the hill, and they are
concerned about the activity and how It will affect the environment.
Mr. Carlberg stated there will be no filling or stockpiling in any
wetland area.
Mrs. Mohlencamp - was concerned about the noise with the trucks and
the dust, as there usually Is a southwest or southerly wind.
Mr. Chouinard - again questioned what will be done about the noise,
dust, and traffic on Bunker Lake Boulevard.
/ Mr. Carlberg reviewed the stipulations the City has placed upon the
applicant and attempted to show where the mining site is in relation
to the surrounding properties. He also explained that this is a State
project, and the county and State have control over the traffic on
Bunker Lake Boulevard and Highway 65.
A representative from Park Construction estimated they will be making
approximately 30 trips an hour from the site.
Julian Fenendael. Comstock & Davis - explained the entire mining
site wil I not be open at one time. The project is broken into a
number of areas. As one area is mined, it will be restored with
topsoil and seeded, then move to the next area. The haul road is down
the middle of the site, which goes in a north/northeast dIrection.
Each area will have its own drainage ponding area for sediment
control. The plan will leave the area with less runoff from the area
under the final grade than there is now. There wIll be a total of
four ponds when it is finished where the four existing depression
areas are on the site that are now dry. The slopes around the ponding
areas will be six to one, which is relatively flat and will iook nice
in a residential development.
Mr. Chouinard - asked what happens to the haul road when the project
is completed. Will it be seeded and removed or will it be there to be
used as a party road or a dump?
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Mr. Fenendael - stated that depends on the property owner. If he
proceeds to develop it as residential, it may remain a road. Mr.
Carlberg stated it is private property and the owner can have the road
if he wishes.
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(PublIc HearIng: Special Use Permit/Mining, L. Johnson, ContInued)
Several residents again expressed concern about the visual effects of
the project and the proximity to theIr properties. Leroy Johnson -
stated the area Is not treed, that It is about 1/4 mile from any other
parcel. In further discussion with the residents and their concern
about the proximity of the mining site to their propertIes, the
Commission then recessed to allow Mr. Carlberg to bring out the
half-sectIon maps. 8:10; reconvened at 8:20 p.m.
After viewing the maps and realizing exactly which knoll is to be
mined, the residents were less apprehensive about the project, stating
most of their concerns have been cleared up. Mr. Carlberg agreed to
prepare a more detailed map showing the mining site and the location
of the adjoining parcels and buildings.
Prior to closing the public hearing, the representative from Park
Construction Company stated they plan to haul only 10-hour days on
Monday through Thursday, from 6 a.m. to 4 p.m., and seven hours on
Friday, from 6 a.m. to 1 p.m. Mr. Carlberg noted the City noise
ordinance does not allow construction to begin before 7 p.m. The
'1 representative agreed to the change of hours to be put in the motion.
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MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Peek, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on as-Yes, 2-Absent (McMullen, Pease) vote.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Janak, recommending that the City
Council approve the Resolution granting the Special Use Permit request
of Park Construction Company as presented by Staff with the following
changes: In the subsection No.1, change the hours from Monday to
Friday, 7 a.m. to 5 p.m., and leave Saturday as is.
The rest of the Resolution remain the same to No.9, which will be
changed to "The finished grade shall be approved by the Andover Review
Committee." Add Item 13, "The owner of the Permit will submit a
development plan for the review of the Andover Review Committee to
estblish a layout for the future development."
Add Item No. 14 that "The City Council will make sure that a properly
executed surity bond be entered into with the permit holder for
restoration."
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There were several people at the public hearing. Their concerns were
specifically for dust, dirt and noise. They would like us to be
careful about that and make sure it is held to a very minimum. They
were rightly concerned about traffic conditions existing on the road
with the trucks hauling, especially with regard to school buses. They
were also concerned that the restoration be done that does the Job,
leaving the land in good state for future development. Also, I would
hope that the Staff would prepare a drawing, hopefully to scale, so
that any Interested party can see exactly how it sets up with his
land. Motion carried on as-Yes, 2-Absent (McMul len, Pease) vote.
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<Public Hearing: Special Use Permit/Mining, L. Johnson, Continued)
Mr. Carlberg noted a letter from Snelling, Christensen & Briant,
representing Joseph F. Novogratz, owner of approximately 29 acres
immediately north of the area to be mined. He felt most of the
concerns were addressed. He also stated the applicant wishes to have
the item placed on the June 16 Council agenda. The consensus of the
Planning Commission was to recommend that the City Council consider
the item on June 16, 1992. 8:33 p.m.
SKETCH PLAN: PHEASANT GLEN. HOKANSON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. INC.
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Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Agenda comments and history of the proposed
Pheasant Glen residential development as presented by Hokanson
Develoment. It is located in an R-4 Single Family Urban Zoning
District within the MUSA area. The Council discussed the location of
Commercial Boulevard which may have an impact on this property. The
proposal was to either locate the road along the northern edge of this
property but entirely on the Andover Auto Parts side or one lot north
of that. They have authorized the City Attorney to hire an appraiser
to determine the costs of acquiring right of way. In any event,
Andover Auto Parts wil I be required to construct a fence per the
ordinance along its southern border which abuts Pheasant Glen.
The Commission asked about the intent to improve Jay Street. Mr.
Carlberg stated it will be a residential street, with the proposal
being that it be separated from Commercial Boulevard and Jay Street to
the north with a cul-de-sac. Jay Street wili have to be paved and the
cost assessed against the abutting property owners.
Kurt Carson. Hokanson Construction - stated he has been working with
Mr. Windschitl regarding the road access to the south of Pheasant
Meadows. Whatever happens there should have no effect on this
proposal. The curvature of the road is what the City Council wanted,
though it is a little more costly for him to develop. They will have
to put a two-car garage on both of the existing houses in those
developments. Even though they will not get FHA financing for the
tier of lots abutting the junkyard, they are anxious to see a more
aesthetically pleasing fence installed.
Sue Hurst - stated the fence along Andover Auto Parts has been in a
state of disrepair since it was built, that it is not of uniform
material or color. Some painting was done on the day of the snow
storm in October, 1991. Mr. Carlberg stated the City has not enforced
the ordinance in this case until a decision was made about the
\ location of Commercial Boulevard. Staff wil I now inform the business
J of its need to bring the fence up to code.
The Commission generally agreed with the proposed concept. Mr.
Carlberg stated the item will be presented to the Council at its June
16, 1992, meeting.
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Minutes - June 9, 1992
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DISCUSSION - CONSTRUCTION OF STRUCTURES IN RECYCLING/JUNKYARDS
Mr. Carlberg explained the City Council has asked the Commission to
consider an ordinance to require all Junk/auto recycling yards to
conduct their activities inside of a building, implemented over an
eight- to ten-year period. Currently those businesses are not allowed
to construct buildings because it would be an expansion of a non-
conforming use. If It is allowed or required, the bUildings would have
to meet the commercial building codes, which may be economically
unfeasible for some. He has not found any support from the EPA or
MPCA which would require these activities to be conducted indoors.
Before proceeding any further, the Planning Commission asked for a
legal opinion as to whether the City has the right to require these
businesses to conduct their activities inside of a building. Even if
the dismantling of the vehicles was done inside of a building, the
Commission felt there would still be some outside storage needed.
Another comment was that the City should be putting more effort into
enforcing the existing ordinances in an effort to clean up that area.
Penny and Mike DeNucci. Anoka Auto Wreckino - did not bring this
matter up so that al I the other yards would be required to have
~ buildings as well. They want to build a building to drain fluids and
, ./ dismantle the cars inside, out of the severe weather, and to protect
the environment from contamination. They are also aware of the code
for commercial buildings and are prepared to meet them. They did not
want the others to be required to do the same thing. Can't they be
al lowed to build a building because it will be environmentally better?
The Commission took no further action, asking that an opinion from the
City Attorney be solicited first. This is to be on the June 23 Agenda.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Carlberg updated the Commission on the status of the Comprehensive
Plan. The Metropolitan Council will begin the 90-day review process of
the Plan shortly. He has also been asked by their Staff to analyze
the rural development density on a section-by-section basis.
Mr. Carlberg also reported that the Metropolitan Council denied the
Minor Amendments submitted for Winslow Hills 2nd Addition and Pinewood
Estates and required the City to adopt management standards for
sedimentation ponds. After the City Council passed a resolution, he
learned from other Metropolitan Council Staff that those standards are
not required. He has now been told those Minor Amendments should be
approved shortly.
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There being no further business, Chairperson Dehn declared the meeting
adjourned at 9:08 p.m.
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J~~cella A. Peach, Recording Secretary
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