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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 26, 1992 o o o o o C}\ CITY of ANDOVER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - MAY 26, 1992 M !NUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Bonnie Dehn on May 26, 1992,7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Maynard Apel, Steve Jonak, Bev Jovanovich, Becky Pease, Randy Peek Marc McMullen Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas City Planner, David Carlberg Others Commissioner absent: Also present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES April 28, 1992: Correct as written. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, approval of the Minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 2-Present (Pease, Peek), 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - PHEASANT MEADOWS. HOKANSON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. INC. 7:35 p.m. Mr. Haas reviewed the proposed preliminary plat of Pheasant Meadows located west of Jay Street, which consists of 28 single family urban residential lots. The developer is considering leaving the existing house on Lot 7, Block 1, which would need a variance for side yard setback from the south property line. If It remains, the Building Department will require the house to be brought up to code. The other two existing buildings will be removed. The drainage is being reviewed by the consulting engineer, which wil I be done according to the plan agreed to by Andover and Coon Rapids. Mr. Haas stated the construction of Commercial Boulevard by the City may affect the parcel immediately north of this one. Mr. Carlberg stated the City Council will be discussing the location of Commercial Boulevard at the June 2, 1992, meeting. Mr. Haas stated the intersections to Jay Street will depend on the future development to the east and the location of Commercial Boulevard. The recommendation has been to close off Jay Street such that the commercial and residential traffic do not mix. According to the ordinance, KIldeer south would be a temporary cul-de-sac, but 134th and Martin would not be. The hearing was opened for public testimony. \ ~) I '-~ / Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 2 (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat, Pheasant Meadows, Continued) Kurt Carson. Hokanson Development - stated they will develop this property in conjunction with the Hurst property. They have signed the purchase agreement on the Hurst property and wil I grade the two properties at the same time, but it will be developed as two plats because of the liability. Jerrv Windschitl. 3640 152nd Lane - owns the property immediately south of the proposed plat. With this plat as proposed, the street alignment from his property to match Kildeer is about 20 feet off. The alignment was off more than that; however, Mr. Carson made some adjustment on this plat; and he went into detail as to why the two streets do not match. Mr. Windschitl stated he would prefer to see Kildeer as a cul-de-sac in the Pheasant Meadows plat, which could be done without losing any lots and which would completely separate this plat from his own. He and the owner of the parcel Just south of him plan to come in with a Joint plat for that area. One other concern was that of being able to obtain FHA financing on his plat if it is connected to those Just above him and those plats are denied FHA financing. , ,~ One other point made by Mr. Windschitl was that if the Hurst property is not developed for some reason, the Pheasant Meadows plat has only one access to the west, or through his property to the south if Kildeer is required to extend to the south. He felt it would be better to get some assurance that the Hurst property will be platted simultaneously. Another thing that could hold up the development of the Hurst property is the alignment of Commercial Boulevard, as it may impact the development proposal as it is now laid out. Don Boeke. 13414 Jav Street - didn/t want the purchase and development of his property to be held up with having to wait for a decision by the Council on Commercial Boulevard. Mr. Haas hoped that all property owners in that vicinity would be able to meet and agree on the future development of that area. Commissioner Apel pointed out that the City will work with everyone for the development of the entire area. However, if Kildeer is extended to connect with Mr. Windschitl/s future plat, the traffic flow through Pheasant Meadows would not be as dependent on what happens to the Hurst property. The Commission discussed the effects of Commercial Boulevard upon the Hurst property. Mr. Carson - stated the plat is exactly what was shown on the master plan for this area. He did shift Kildeer, but he didn/t realize it would still be 20 feet off from what Mr. Windschitl is proposing to , the south. Mr. Haas felt it would be preferable to have Kildeer extend ,/ to the southern plat, as it is desirable to be able to move about and blend the neighborhoods rather than have them exist as separate entities. u o \ AndoveL Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 3 '. .J (Public HeaLing: PLeliminaLY Plat, Pheasant Meadows, Continued) ChaiLpeLson Dehn asked fOL a motion to close the public heaLing. MOTION by Jovanovich, Seconded by Pease, to so move. Motion caLLied on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by JovanovIch, that the Planning and ZonIng Commission send thIs ResolutIon to the CIty Council to appLove the pLeliminaLY plat of Pheasant Meadows. The ResolutIon should be pLesented to the Council as we have Lecelved it fLom the Staff with the followIng additIons: Item No.4, that signIfIcant consldeLation should be given to tying in of the stLeet called KlldeeL to the plat that will be comIng In to the south. ConsldeLatlon should be gIven also to that developeL's wish to impLove his FHA fInancIng position by sepaLating his plat fLom those plats to the nOLth. HoweveL, the Leal Leason that we would sepaLate them, If at all, would be to solve this KildeeL StLeet pLoblem. If we can solve that wIth any otheL method, it would pLobably be to the CIty's advantage to do so. Item No.2, to say VaLlance fOL Block 1, Lot 7 fOL the sideyaLd and fLont yaLd setback fLom...(continue as stated In pLepaLed ResolutIon). , ,/ DISCUSSION: The CommIssIon discussed ML. Windschitl's conceLn LegaLding the inabilIty of obtaInIng FHA fInancIng If hIs plat Is attached to thIs one. ML. CaLson stated he has alLeady Lecelved appLoval fOL FHA fInancIng on the Boeke pLopeLty and they wIll be able to get it on the HULst pLopeLty except the lots abuttIng the junkyaLd to the nOLth because of the vIsual blIght. ML. Wlndschitl stated If the Boeke pLopeLty gets FHA pLopeLty, they sULely wil I also. MotIon caLLled on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. 8:18 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING - PINEWOOD ESTATES. CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. INC. 8:18 p.m. ML. CaLlbeLg Levlewed the Lequest of Continental Development COLpoLation to Lezone the pLopeLty known as Santa's TLee FaLm geneLally in the vIcInIty of Hanson and AndoveL BoulevaLds fLom R-1 and R-3 to R-4, Single FamIly ULban. A MlnoL Amendment to the CompLehensive Plan has been submitted to Include this aLea in the MUSA, and sanitaLY seweL should be available thIs summeL. The heaLing was opened fOL publIc testImony. \ ) Dave LeindeckeL. 14570 MaLtin COULt - was not told about thIs pLoposal when he inquiLed at City Hall pLioL to moving out heLe Lecently. He moved out heLe because of the LULal natuLe of the aLea, which he feels is beIng affected by this pLoposal. He was conceLned about the incLease in tLaffic and the plans fOL It, what plans aLe \ ) . \ ~-) ) Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 4 (Public Hearing: Rezoning - Plnewood Estates, ContInued) there for Increased polIce requIrements, addItional snow removal, addItIonal schools, etc. The CommIssIon felt most of the concerns related to the plat Itself, suggestIng he raIse them agaIn when the next Item Is beIng consIdered. Darrel Stern. 1653 Andover Boulevard NW - dIdn't know the dIfference between R-4 and R-3. Mr. Carlberg revIewed the lot sIze dIfferences. Carol Christopherson. 1703 Andover Boulevard - asked if the sewer and water wIll affect her property, as the prelImInary plat shows the street going rIght next to her garage. She Is concerned about assessments and cost to her. The CommIssion explaIned the rezoning does not affect on her property. Questions relating to sewer and water are more appropriately addressed with the prelimInary plat. Chairperson Dehn asked for a motion to close the public hearIng. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, i-Absent (McMullen) vote. Commissioner Janak felt that some of the concerns raised by the ~_/ resIdents may be relevant to the rezonIng and should be addressed at this tIme such as the traffic. Once it Is rezoned to R-4, the traffic conditions wIll be created that are greater than the current 2.5-acre lot sIze requIrement. Mr. Carlberg stated the proposed plat has only one access to the west to Lund's Evergreen Estates. All other accesses are onto county roads. ChaIrperson Dehn stated due to the proximity of the property to the exIstIng urban area, the fact that sewer and water wIll be available, and because this is consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan for growth, the rezonIng is approprIate. Commissioner Pease also noted that this is the request of the owner and It meets all of the CIty's crIterIa for a rezonIng. The CommIssion also explaIned to those present how the R-4 zoning differs from the existing zone. Mr. Carlberg explaIned where the sewer and water lInes wIll be enterIng the plat, indIcatIng there would not be a dIrect benefit to Ms. ChrIstopherson's property at this time. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Apel, that the Andover Planning and ZonIng CommissIon recommend approval of the rezoning of ContInental Development Corporation, Inc., to rezone property to be known as Plnewood Estates from R-l, single famIly rural, and R-3, single famIly suburban, to R-4, single family urban per the legal description In the Staff report and generally located north of Andover Boulevard NW and west of Hanson Boulevard NW and presently known as Santa's Tree Farm. , / The Planning Commission finds the proposed rezoning meets the crIterIa establIshed In OrdInance 8, SectIon 5.03(B). A public hearIng was held and there was one comment In opposItion. Motion carrIed on a 6-Yes, i-Absent (McMullen) vote. 8:48 p.m. \ , / ~- ~ , / Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 5 PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - PINEWOOD ESTATES. CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. INC. 8:48 p.m. Mr. Haas reviewed the proposed preliminary plat of Pinewood Estates which consists of 174 single family urban residential lots. The plat has been modified slightly from the sketch plan, in that one of the cul-de-sacs has been removed. Variances are required for Block 8, Lots 23 and 27 for lot depth. The developer is working with TKDA regarding the drainage, which will be handled on site without additional runoff to other properties. The City has received a letter from School District No. 11 agreeing with the access being provided to Andover School. Anoka County sent a letter regarding accesses to the county roads and berming. The Park and Recreation Commission has recommended cash in lieu of land for park dedication because of the close proximity of the school and potential park area to the west, Lund's Evergreen Estates park and the City Hall park. Chuck Cook. Continental Development Corporation - has had this property under contract for over six years. He addressed some of the questions raised by the residents earlier relating to traffic requirements and accesses from the plat. / Dave Leindecker. 14570 Martin Court - stated the bal I field in the Lund's Evergreen Estates park is used, but the parking is not adequate. He was concerned with the additional traffic coming through when cars are parked on both sides of the street for bal I games. He wondered if this ball field would be eliminated if others are built west of the school. What is the plan for a park there? Mr. Haas didn't know what would happen to that bal I field. He recommended those concerns be directed to the Park and Recreation Commission. Mr. Cook - continued that sewer will come in from Andover Boulevard between two lots at a depth of about 25 feet. Laterals will be used to service the interior lots. There will be no assessments to the abutting properties for those utilities. All drainage will be contained within the plat with internal ponding to regulate the outflow. There wil I be no assessments to abutting properties for storm drainage improvements. / Several residents expressed many concerns about the storm drainage and its effect on their properties and the wetlands, questioning the claims that the water to the ponding to the southeast will not affect the abutting properties. Mr. Cook went into detail on how the drainage will be regulated with catch basins and piping so the water level will not be raised in the abutting properties and wetlands. He is working with TKDA and the Coon Creek Watershed within the parameters of the regulations for wetlands. About two feet will be excavated from the pond in the southeast corner to get the ponding capacity needed in a 100-year event. He assured the residents and the Commission that according to the engineers, the water will leave his property at a rate not any faster than it does today. , \ o " ) " ) Andover Planning and Zoning Commission MInutes - May 26, 1992 Page 6 (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat, Pinewood Estates, Continued) Dave Hefner. 14719 Linnet NW - stated when he moved there, the development had a park, which has been very nIce. With 174 new homes being put in, he felt It Is strange that they do not have their own park. Plus they wIll be driving out to Crosstown on 148th, past cars parked on both sides of the street during ball games. It can be dealt with now, but he wondered what it wIll be like with 300 more kIds. He asked about sidewalks along Hanson Boulevard. Mr. Cook - stated he has no plans for them. The children will walk to the elementary school through the middle of the plat and access by the entrance provided from within the plat. He also stated that the Park and Recreation Commission and City has been of the opinion to take cash in lieu of land in this development, typIcally to be used to improve nearby parks. He also referenced the land the CIty already owns in the vicinity. The CommIssion suggested the residents may wish to address the Park and RecreatIon CommIssion about their concerns with the Lund's Evergreen park. Carol Christopherson. 1703 Andover Boulevard NW - asked about the placement of the sewer and the road going into the plat. / Mr. Cook - reviewed the routing of the sewer line. He explained they gave a lot of thought to her garage when proposing the placement of Ibis Street. It appears the garage is 10 to 15 feet from the property line; and with the rIght of way, the actual road wII I be about 30 or more feet from the garage. With the stable solIs there, he did not antIcIpate any problems. In response to a question from a resident, Mr. Cook stated the trees from the right of ways wIll be removed by the CIty and put In the parks. Others wIll be avaIlable to anybody who wants to remove them; however, there Is only a two- to three-week period in whIch they can be removed. He will also have varIous covenants on the lots. He expected the prIce range of the homes to be from $90,000 and hIgher in the heavier wooded and cul-de-sac areas. Mr. Hefner - asked if he would be able to replace his electric fence, which is on his property line abutting this plat, with a permanent fence. The Commission recommended he communicate with his neighbors as to what he plans to do. Fences can be placed on the property lines, though he may wish to move it back one or two feet. Ms. Christopherson - noted the increasing problems they are having along Andover Boulevard of "mail box bashing" and was concerned about an increase in vandalism with the more homes and people behind her. Will there be an increase in polIce patrols? The Commission pointed out some of the problems the CIty faces as it grows so rapidly and noted the CIty CouncIl is aware of when additional patrols are needed. However, over the last several years, those types of crimes have lessened in the City. They discussed the City's future growth and development with the residents, explaining the City's five-year plan of development. u , \ lJ ~ Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 7 (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat, Pinewood Estates, Continued) Mr. Leindecker - stated he moved out here to a more rural setting, but this development changes that. Now he found out there are plans to widen Hanson Boulevard to four lanes. He asked about signals along Hanson Boulevard. Mr. Haas stated that will depend on when warrants are met. The streets are full intersections. The traffic volumes will determine when and where signals are needed. The development wil I also be signed according to Minnesota Traffic Control regulations. The speed limit within the plat will be 30 mph. Commissioner Peek suggested that a pathway be provided from the cul-de-sac for pedestrian traffic to the north so the children do not cut across the yards as the shortest route to the school and parks. It would make the north/south flow considerabiy better. The worst thing that could happen is to have the children walk on Hanson Boulevard to get to school. Mr. Cook stated he has not given that any consideration, but he didn't feel the children would have any reason to go out to Hanson Boulevard. Chairperson Dehn asked for a motion to close the public hearing. , \ , ,~ MOTION by Jovanovich, Seconded by Pease, to so move. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, i-Absent (McMullen) vote. MOTION by Jovanovich, Seconded by Apel, that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of Pinewood Estates being developed by Continental Development Corporation located in the southwest quarter of Section 27, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, per the Resolution presented by Staff. There was a public hearing and there were concerns on the park, park parking lot, traffic, the wetlands, and pedestrian trails. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, i-Absent (McMullen) vote. 9:50 p.m. The Commission recessed at this time; reconvened at 10:00 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO.8. SECTION 8.08. SIGNS 10:00 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the phone survey of other cities regarding area identification signs. As a result, the Staff felt it is reasonable to have an area identification sign located on each vehicular access to a subdivision not to exceed 32 square feet in size. If the Commission agrees, Section 8.07 of Ordinance 8 should be amended. :.) Chairpeson Dehn opened the hearing for public testimony. \ ,.~ \ " ) , Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 8 , j (PublIc Hearing: Amendment/OrdInance 8, Signs, ContInued) The CommissIon dIscussed the results of the phone survey and possible changes to the CIty's sIgn ordInance. Mr. Carlberg suggested the possibIlity of amendIng OrdInance 10 to include the area identIfIcatIon sIgnage as a part of the prelimInary plat process. ChaIrperson Dehn felt that the IdentIfIcatIon sIgns make the neIghborhood more sophistIcated and gIves a sense of IdentIfIcation. Chuck Cook. Continental Development - stated what motivates him on sIgnage Is partly for marketing, but also to establish a sense of community in the subdIvision. He believes it does have a psychological value of creating communIty. CommIssioner Peek dIdn't wIsh to see an area IdentIfIcatIon sIgn on every lIttle subdIvIsIon, suggestIng the mInImum acreage be Increased from fIve acres to In excess of ten acres. He does not support anythIng more than one sIgn per frontage, which he feels Is approprIate for the establishment of the neighborhood feeling. He also felt the maxImum 32-square-foot sIze Is suffIcIent, and he has no problem wIth the gate-type entrance sIgns. PhasIng should not be considered development; signs should be based on the total plat. CommissIoner Jonak agreed. , / There was some debate as to whether "frontage" should be on major roads or can be on cIty streets as well, poIntIng out dIfferent scenarIos for each posItIon. Another questIon Is how would It be handled for those plats that do not have frontage on any street such as the Meadows of Round Lake. CommIssIoner Peek felt frontage relates to any street. There Is no frontage for the Meadows of Round Lake. Mr. Cook - believed it would be appropriate to have a monument In that case. It Is difficult to put In rules that apply to every situatIon. Chairperson Dehn asked for a motIon to close the public hearIng. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. MotIon carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by JovanovIch, to dIrect Staff to prepare an amendment to the ordInance and brIng it back to the Commission putting the minImum acreage of more than ten acres, one sign per frontage on a street for the whole plat, same square footage -- whether It is one sign or two as in a gate sign, as long as the total does not exceed 32 square feet. And amend Ordinance 10, that Special Use Permit be required at the time of platting to IndIcate the location of the sign. , , / DISCUSSION: CommissIoner Peek stated the intent is this will affect the plattIng of developments only, not area identIfIcatIon for churches, schools, etc. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 1-No (Apel), 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. 10:35 p.m. . \, '- / '-. j 1 Andove. Planning and Zoning Commission J Minutes - May 26, 1992 Page 9 PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - AREA IDENTIFICATION SIGNS. PINEWOOD ESTATES. CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. INC. 10:35 p.m. M.. Ca.lbe.g suggested this item be tabled because of the .ecommendation made in the p.evious Agenda item. Acco.ding to the .ecommended change, one sign would be allowed along Hanson Bouleva.d and one along Andove. Bouleva.d. The .equest is fo. two signs along Hanson Bouleva.d and one on Andove. Bouleva.d. Chuck Cook. Continental Development - stated he would like two signs in Phase 1. He ag.eed to have the item tabled pending final action on the amendment to the o.dinance. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, that we table this item. Motion ca..ied on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. 10:45 p.m. DISCUSSION - REVOCATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT (MINING). MARVIN BENSON. 14817 NW ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD . / M.. Ca.lberg explained M.. Benson has requested the Special Use Permit to conduct mining activities on his p.operty be revoked. Staff as determined the property is classified as a Type 3 wetland and found that the fil ling of the p.operty and the wetland would .equire mitigation and .eplacement. In addition, the.e is no .eco.d of eve. .eceiving the escrow secu.ity which was a condition of the Permit. The land would be left as is. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, that we recommend to the City Council that the Special Use Permit granted to M.. and M.s. Benson be revoked at the .equest of the holde. of the pe.mit. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote. OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Ca.lberg .epo.ted the City Council .efe.red the Tree O.dinance and Prese.vation Poi icy back to the Tree Commission to make cla.ifications regarding la.ge land owne.s, ag.icultu.al uses, developments, etc. Chai.pe.son Dehn stated the City Council met this evening and approved the p.eliminary plat of The Meadows of Round Lake without the app.oval of the DNR to c.oss the wetland with Eldorado St.eet south to CoRd 116. She believed it is the Council's intent to continue to pu.sue that exit. The.e being no fu.the. business, Chai.pe.son Dehn declared the meeting ,/ adJou.ned at 10:42 p.m. ~p~~~L ~h~~el la A. Peac , Recording Secreta.y