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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - AUGUST 13. 1991
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Randy Peek on August 13.
1991,7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall. 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW. Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Maynard Apel. Bonnie Dehn (arrived at 7:35
p.m.), Steve Jonak, Bev Jovanovich. Marc
McMul len, Becky Pease
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City Planner, David Carlberg; and others
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 9. 1991: Correct as written.
MOTION by Pease. Seconded by Jovanovich, to approve the July 19
Minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Dehn)
vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT. 14122 PRAIRIE ROAD NW. ROBERT NEHRING
7:31 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of Robert Nehring, 14122
Prairie Road NW to split a 2.5-acre parcel from a 20-acre parcel in an
R-l, Single Family Rural District. It has been discovered that the
20-acre parcel is really two 10-acre parcels described by metes and
bounds from the center line of Prairie Road. Staff is recommending
approval contingent upon the two lots being combined to meet the
minimum lot frontage requirements for the larger lot. Mr. Carlberg
also noted the applicable ordinances: Ordinance 40, Ordinance 8,
6.02, Ordinance 10, 9.06a(3) and 9.07.10. Staff is recommending
approval contingent upon the combining of the two lots, the
calculation of the 2.5 acres to exclude the 30-foot right of way of
Prairie Road, and a park dedication fee of $400.
(Commissioner Dehn arrived at this time. 7:35 p.m.)
Commissioner Apel argued past practice has been to include the right
of way when splitting metes and bounds parcels; otherwise he
considered it a taking on the part of the City. He understood why the
easement is not included on platted parcels. but for metes and ~ounds
it is considered in the acreage of the property owner. He felt-this
change constitutes the Staff making policy rather than the City
Council. which irritates him.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - August 13, 1991
Page 2
(Public Hearing: Lot Spl it, 14122 Prairie Road NW, Continued)
Mr. Carlberg stated since he has been on Staff the acreage has
excluded right of way; and if the minimum acreage cannot be met, a
variance has been granted. He intends to bring this to the attention
of the Council to get an Interpretation.
Councilmember McMullen questioned the park dedication. Mr. Carlberg
explained $400 for a lot split is set by Council resolution. When
platting larger areas, 10 percent of the land value is used. Usually
a cash dedication is taken for lot splits rather than land.
The hearing was opened for public testimony.
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Jerry Windschitl. 3640 152nd Lane - agreed to the requirement of
combining the two 10-acre parcels, as they were working under the
opinion that it was one parcel to begin with. They do have an
objection to the requirement of excluding the 30-foot right of way of
Prairie Road in the acreage calculations. Since the ordinance was
enacted in 1977 to recent history, the City has included the easement
in the lot split calculations on metes and bounds parcels. He stated
he researched the City's files on lot splits, stating he pul led out
just ten examples and quoted four of them for the Commission where in
virtually exact situations, the acreage calculations included the
right of way. Two of those lot splits he quoted occurred in 1990, two
in 1985 to show that including the right of way has been done
consistently since 1977.
Mr. Windschitl acknowledged the Planning Commission and City Council
have the authority to change policy; however, he felt any policy
change should be discussed separately and be applicable when the
decision is made, not retroactively. He stated he should not be
required to do something no one else has been required to do.
Mr. Carlberg again stated he wil I ask Council to make a determination
when it comes before them. Commissioner Apel stated the Council has
already made a determination by past practices by its actions
historically and by what is in the ordinance. He stated Staff should
not be making policy, and this is not the way to change policy.
Chairperson Peek stated typically there have been variances when the
minimum acreages cannot be met.
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Mr. Windschitl - stated the variances are a relatively new thing. He
had a part in passing that ordinance which specifically gave the
Council a lot of authority to try to accommodate metes and bounds
descriptions. There is no provision in the Lot Split Ordinance for him
to apply for a variance. He again noted the Field lot split which was
approved on June 5, 1990, which is identical to this one but the
description was from the center of the road and no variance was
granted.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
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(Public Hearing: Lot Split, 14122 Prairie Road NW, Continued)
There being no further public testimony, Chairperson Peek asked for a
motion to close the public hearing.
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
The Commission discussed the Staff recommendation regarding the
exclusion of easement in the acreage calculations, the recent
Commission recommendations to Council to also exclude the easement but
to grant variances if the required dimensions cannot be met, and the
testimony this evening that historically the easement is included on
metes and bounds parcels and the iack of a provision for variances in
the ordinance.
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Jonak, that the Planning and Zoning
Commission forward to the City Council with a recommendation to
approve this lot spiit subject to:
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1) Combining the two 10-acre parcels:
2) To exclude the 3D-foot right of way in the calculation and
primarily to have this point to clarify which policy to
follow: and
3) To pay a park dedication fee of $400 to the City Council.
The legal description would fol low the parcels. Note that a public
hearing was held and considerable discussion occurred with the notion
of excluding or including the 30-foot right of way. DISCUSSION:
Mr. Windschitl asked for clarification why a year ago a gentleman with
the same conditions as this had no conditions made on him when there
has been no change in the ordinance. The Commission again discussed
the issue of calculating acreage including or excluding the right of
way. Mr. Carlberg understood those calculations have been done both
ways in the past. Commissioner Apel clarified that in the past when
dealing with platted property, the easement is excluded; but when
working with metes and bounds property, the easement is included
because metes and bounds transfers are always made from the center of
the survey line.
AMENDMENT TO MOTION by McMul len, Seconded by Apel, to al low Mr.
Nehring a variance in the acreage calculation provided he applies for
it. DISCUSSION: Mr. Windschitl stated his research shows that the
Planning Commission recommended approval including the easement of the
four lot splits previously mentioned, and the Council approved them as
recommended. Commissioner Jonak stated the Planning Commission is
recommending to the City Council and City Attorney that the policy be
') clarified. Commissioner McMullen felt the amendment must be accepted
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - August 13, 1991
Page 4
(Public Hearing: Lot Split, 14122 Prairie Road NW, Continued)
to apply for a variance: and apparently Staff has not said he has that
option. Commissioner Dehn didn't feel the variance was needed since
the ordinance was not changed and history shows the easement should be
included in this case. Mr. Windschitl stated if the regulations and
past practices of the City had required him to remove the road right
of way, they would have done it. But that is not how it has been done
in the past. inviting the Commission to look through the files
themselves.
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: YES-Apel, McMul len, Pease: NO-Dehn feeling it is
not a significant amendment, Jonak, Jovanovich, Peek. Motion fails on
a 3 to 4 vote.
ADDITION TO MOTION by Pease to add a one-year sunset clause to file
the lot split. Second Stands.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Jonak, Jovanovich, Pease, Peek: NO-Apel, Dehn,
McMullen. Motion carries.
Commissioner Dehn felt the easement should be included as has been the
policy in the past.
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way should be included.
Commissioner Pease thought this was the best way to bring it to the
Council's attention to clarify the policy.
Mr. Windschitl asked the four voting in favor of the motion on what
legal basis they have placed a requirement on him that has not been
required of others. Chairperson Peek stated on the last lot split,
the right of way was subtracted from the lot parcel. Mr. Windschitl
stated the county right of way was subtracted, not the City's right of
way. Chairperson Peek felt the motion is clear that it is a policy
issue and requests a clarification from the Council on policy. He
felt that is the best way to get the issue before the City Council for
that clarification.
Mr. Windschitl stated a separate request would have been more
appropriate. but this has the effect of placing a requirement on him
that has not been placed on anyone else since 1977 under the same
ordinance, once again referring to the four identical lot splits he
mentioned earlier this evening, two of them as recent as a year ago.
He again asked for a provision in the ordinance for the requirement
and why he has to exclude the right of way when others have not had
to. Commissioner Pease again stated the motion was strictly to get a
clarification of the policy from the Council.
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The item wil I go to the City Council on September 3, 1991. 8:27 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 1.000-GALLON ABOVE-GROUND DIESEL
STORAGE TANK. 13586 THRUSH STREET NW. M & S DRYWALL SUPPLY
8:27 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of M & S Drywal I to
locate an above-ground 1,000-gallon diesel storage tank on Lots 3 and
4, Block 2, Andover Commercial Park, 13586 Thrush Street NW. He
reviewed the applicable ordinances of Ordinance 8, Sections 4.26 and
5.03. Staff had some concerns about its location: however, the Fire
Marshal has reviewed the installation plans and has approved it as
long as it is instal led per State guidelines. Staff is recommending
approval contingent upon the applicant providing written proof to the
City that the tank meets al I State requirements and regulations, on a
one-year sunset clause, and annual reviews. The actual gas pump wil I
be remote from the tank, located across from one of the entrances.
Michael BrinGS. applicant - stated there is a 125 percent spillage
built in case the tank leaks. There is also something built around
the pump, which is 60 feet from the tank. There wll I be concrete
pillers around both the tank and the pump plus an apron at the pump
according to State regulations.
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There was no public testimony. Chairperson Peek asked for a motion to
close the public hearing.
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MOTION by McMullen, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by McMullen, Seconded by Dehn, based on the Staff's
recommendation, to recommend approval of the Special Use Permit as
requested by M & S Drywall for an above-ground 1,000-gallon diesel
storage tank with the conditions:
1) The applicant provide to the City, in writing, proof that the
tank meets all State requirements and regulations.
2) A sunset clause of one year as specified per Ordinance 8,
Section 5.08d.
3) Annual review by Staff.
A public hearing was held on August 13. Motion carried unanimously.
The item wil I go before the City Council on September 3, 1991. 8:33
p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT. CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. 17913
AZTEC STREET. GREG SMEDSRUD
\ 8:33 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of Greg Smedsrud to
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principal structure on Lot 7, Block 2, Cedar Hills River Estates
Second Addition, 17913 Aztec Street NW. It Is a 1.75-acre lot and
zoned R-2, Single Family Estate.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - August 13, 1991
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<Public Hearing: SUP, Construction of Accessory Structure prior to
the Construction of Principal Structure, 17913 AZTEC, Continued)
Applicable ordinances are Ordinance 8, Sections 4.05 and 5.03. He
would not be al lowed to construct a pole building because the lot is
less than three acre. Lary Carlson, Woodland Development Corporation,
has given approval to construct the accessory building at the location
shown on the map before the Commission. The applicant is in the
process of purchasing both Lots 6 and 7 and has indicated a desire to
have horses. If that is the case, a replatting must be done to
combine the two lots to meet the acreage requirement for horses: and
then a pole barn could be constructed.
Mr. Carlberg explained the structure will be in a wooded area: and
though there is no requirement that a principal structure be built,
one Permit given in the past required it to be built within two years.
There are no plans by the applicant to build a principal structure at
this time, as he lives across the street from Lot 7. However, he
cannot construct an accessory building on his present lot because of
the restrictions of the Scenic Rum River Ordinance. Staff is
recommending approval subject to meeting the setback requirements and
that it be placed to accommodate the future placement of the principal
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The Commission discussed the placing of a principal structure on Lot 7
or if Lots 6 and 7 are combined. If they are combined, the feeling
was a principal structure would face Aztec, cautioning the need to
meet setback requirements if the intent is to have horses on the
property. Mr. Carlberg explained he has discussed with Mr. Smedsrud
the necessity of obtaining an approved site plan from the Equestrian
Council if he wishes to raise horses.
The hearing was opened for public testimony.
Greq Smedsrud - explained he already has horses housed about three
hours away. He would like to have them closer. He has an option to
purchase Lots 6 and 7 and build the accessory structure to be able to
have horses, though he does not intend to build a principal structure.
He said he is doing this so he can remain an Andover resident. He
asked why he has to legaily replat the two lots to combine them,
sating he would be agreeable to a provision to use the lots for horses
until he sel Is the lots. Then it would not be an issue for the new
landowner, since horses would not be allowed.
The Commission didn't feel that stipulation could be made since the
permit does not deal with the issue of horses. The horse issue cannot
be dealt with unless or until the lots are combined. Mr. Carlberg also
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - August 13, 1991
Page 7
(Public Hearing: SUP, Construction of Accessory Structure prior to
the Construction of Principal Structure, 17913 AZTEC, Continued)
Bruce Lindbero, 17822 Aztec - stated Mr. Smedsrud approached him
about buying the two lots and building a pole barn to store cars and
other items and to get horses. He did not have a problem with the
proposal but is concerned with what happens to that building when it
is soid. Can it be used for a car repair business where cars and
parts would be kept outside, which is unsightly in a residential
area? Also, since he talked with Mr. Smedsrud, he received a ietter
from the City indicating it was a permit to build a pole barn ahead of
a principal structure, though Mr. Smedsrud had not said anything about
building a new house. Mr. Lindquist stated in talking with the
neighbors, their concerns are basically the same, that is on the
future use of the building.
Mr. Carlberg explained the ordinance requires that he apply for a
permit to build the accessory building prior to the construction of
the principal building. Also, he felt the ordinances protect the
neighbors from undesirable uses of the structure in the future. Car
repair businesses are not allowed in that area.
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Dan Parent. 17900 Aztec Street - supports Mr. Smedsrud's proposal
for a garage and a proposal for a number of horses.
Rebecca Swada. 17922 Aztec - stated she and her husband have talked
with Mr. Smedsrud and support his proposal. They think leaving the
land in a more natural state wil I have value to the area. She also
presented a letter of support from her husband.
Gary Leeoard. 17958 Aztec and Bryan Johnson. 18006 Aztec - both
expressed support for Mr. Smedsrud's intention to build the structure.
Mr. Smedsrud - stated he has discussed this with all the residents
and with Mr. Carlson of Woodland Development, and all have supported
him. His whole intention is to be able to stay in Andover for a good
many years to come, but he needs to be able to do these things to feel
comfortable staying. He felt Mr. Lindberg's concerns are valid, but
he assured them his intentions are specifically what he outlined in
the Special Use Permit application. There are ordinances that wil I
protect them against undesirable uses on that property in the future.
He originally intended to build a pole building from a cost
perspective but realizes he cannot on 1.75 acres. He understands his
alternative is to combine the two lots, asking if he would have to
come before the Commission again. Mr. Carlberg stated yes for the
replatting, but not to construct a pole building versus a wood-built
building.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - August 13, 1991
Page 8
(Public Hearing: SUP, Construction of Accessory Structure prior to
the Construction of Principal Structure, 17913 AZTEC, Continued)
Mr. Smedsrud - stated Mr. Carlson has already given approval for a
pole building. By having his structure directly across the street, he
has a vested interest in keeping up appearances. The structure would
be completely screened by trees. He also has no problem adding a
contingency that a principal structure should be built if he
determines he has to sel I his present residence.
The Commission continued to deliberate on the request and possible
concerns with having horses. Commissioner Jonak was very concerned
about the future use of the structure. He questioned the wisdom of
allowing accessory structures on parcels when there is no intent to
build a principal structure. As a worse case scenario, he said it is
conceivable that the parcel with the accessory building could be sold
and used for any number of undesirable uses which would not be
acceptable to the neighbors.
Commissioner McMullen was concerned about requiring Mr. Smedsrud to
replat the two lots. He wondered if there was a way to allow him to
/, do what he wants without combing the lots. That may be a way to
, ) protect the neighborhood from needless hardship in the future.
Chairperson Peek again noted the permit does not address horses, as
that is a separate issue.
Mr. Smedsrud - stated he intends to go through the process with the
Equestrian Council. He again stated he would be agreeable to a
contingency that when those lots are sold, a principal structure must
be built upon them. Mr. Carlberg stated he would have to check the
legality of such a requirement.
Chairperson Peek asked for a motion to close the pUblic hearing.
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Jovanovich, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by McMul len, Seconded by Apel, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends approval of the Special Use Permit requested by
Greg Smedsrud to allow for the construction of an accessory structure
prior to the construction of a principal building at 17913 Aztec
Street NW (Lot 7, Block 2, Cedar Hil Is River Estates Second Addition).
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The Commission finds the request meets the criteria established in
Ordinance No.8, Section 5.03, including: the use wil I not be
detrimental to the health, safety, morals or general welfare of the
community; the use will not cause serious traffic congestions or
hazards; the use wil I not depreciate the surrounding property, and the
use is in harmony with the Comprehensive Plan. The Commission also
finds that the use meets the provisions specified in Ordinance No.8.
Section 4.05, Accessory Structures.
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(Public Hearing: SUP. Construction of Accessory Structure prior to
the Construction of Principal Structure, 17913 AZTEC, Continued)
(Motion continued) A public hearing was held on August 13. Add a
one-year sunset clause as specified in Ordinance 8, Section 5.08, and
subject to an annual review. DISCUSSION: Mr. Carlberg explained the
one-year sunset clause means Mr. Smedsrud has one year in which to
construct the building.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Ape I , Dehn, Jovanovich, McMullen. Pease, Peek;
NO-Jonak. Motion carried.
Commissioner Jonak didn't think the City should allow him to put up a
building and then do nothing. He can sell it to anybody in a week who
could use it for any number of undesirable activities. Commissioner
Jonak didn't think that is what the City should be allowing or there
will be a lot of these types of requests.
The item will go to the City Council on September 3, 1991. 9:23 p.m.
The Commission recessed at this time; reconvened at 9:31 p.m.
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VARIANCE: DRIVEWAY ENCROACHING SIDEYARD SETBACK AND DRAINAGE AND
UTILITY EASEMENT. 3223 138TH LANE NW. DEBORAH MARKUSON
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request to allow for the continued placement
of a concrete driveway encroaching the sideyard setback and drainage
and utility easement at 3223 138th Lane NW. The driveway is already
in place. He reviewed the applicable ordinances, stating it is the
Staff's feeling the variance should be granted because of the shape
and topography of the lot. If the variance is not granted, that
portion of the driveway would be removed, but then the owners would be
backing onto grass to make the turn to access the garage. The
Markuson's have a purchase order on the property. The Building
Official did not have a problem with the encroachment. There is a
major slope to the driveway.
Mr. Carlberg explained that at one time the sideyard setback for
driveways on cui de sacs was one foot. It was changed to five feet at
the time some other revisions were made to the ordinance. He wondered
if the Commission wished to examine the Zoning Ordinance further to
allow for some flexibility on cuI de sac lots.
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Dean Markuson - stated the driveway as proposed by the builder could
not access the garage. The builder, Perfection Homes, Inc., modified
the concrete driveway without knowing that the one-foot easement law
had been changed to five. His wife came to the City for the variance
request because they wanted everything above board before they close
on the house.
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Page 10
(Variance: Driveway Encroachment, 3223 138th Lane, Continued)
The Commission expressed concern with the builder simply making a
change, wondering if there is some way to reprimand or penalize the
builder. Mr. Carlberg felt that is between the builder and potential
buyer, not a City issue. Chairperson Peek suggested the variance
include a provision that the property owner would be responsible for
the removal of the driveway and restoration if there are any problems
in the easement.
Mr. Markuson - agreed.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by McMullen, recommend to the City Council
approval of the variance request by Deborah Markuson to al low for the
contInued placement of a concrete drIveway encroaching Into the
required sIdeyard setback as wel I as encroaching into a draInage and
utIlity easement on the property located at 3223 138th Lane NW,
legally described as Lot 18, Block 8, Woodland Creek AddItIon.
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The Planning CommissIon fInds that the proposal meets the criteria
established in OrdInance 8, SectIon 5.04 IncludIng: the strict
interpretation of the ordinance causes the hardship; the hardship
stems from the unique shape, topography or physical features of the
land; the variance wIll not be detrimental to the public welfare; and
the variance is necessary for the reasonable use of the property.
The property owner wil I be responsible for the removal and restoration
of the driveway encroachIng on the easement if it becomes necessary.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by McMullen, Seconded by Jovanovich, to direct Staff to
address the cuI de sac problem and gIve us theIr fIndings.
DISCUSSION: Staff was also asked to research the number of vIolatIons
resulting from the ordinance change. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
Because the Markuson's have a closing date set for next week, the
Commission recommended Staff attempt to place thIs on the August 20,
1991, City Council Agenda If possIble. If not, It wIll be heard by
the Council on September 3, 1991.
OTHER BUSINESS
Jerry WindschItl - asked for a copy of the audIo tape of this
evening's meeting, stating he Is willing to have the copy made at his
expense. The Commission directed him to Staff.
\ CommissIoner McMullen noted an advertisement on TV for splat ball
,/ games in Andover. Mr. Carlberg stated he talked to the company
regarding the City's requirements. He was then told the company has
no intention of using Andover for its activities.
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(Other Business, Continued)
Mr. Carlberg stated he received a letter from the Metropolitan Council
regarding the proposed amendment to the ComprehensIve Plan for the
sanitary sewer proposal by Mr. Nedegaard. The 90-day reviewal process
ends October 21, 1991. The MetropolItan CouncIl does have some
concerns, and he will be working with them on the various issues.
Mr. Carlberg also noted the Items on anImals referred to the
CommIssIon by the CouncIl which wIll be on the next CommIssion Agenda.
The Commission asked that Mr. Carlberg research the Items so they have
some guIdelines to work wIth.
The Commission noted the following meetings: August 27, 1991, next
regular CommIssIon meetIng; August 29, ComprehensIve Plan Update Task
Force meeting; and September 12, joInt meetIng of CIty CouncIl and
ComprehensIve Plan Update Task Force.
There beIng no further busIness, ChaIrperson Peek declared the meetIng
adjourned at 10:03 p.m.
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Respectfully submItted,
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Marcella A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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