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Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Call to Order-7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
1. Approval of Minutes (5/6/08 Regular Meeting)
Consent Items
2. Approve Payment of Claims - Finance
3. Approve Quotes/Septic System Abatement/2279 - 154th Lane NW - Building
4. Authorize Advertisement for Bids/Fire Tanker Replacement - Fire
5. Approve Garbage Hauler License Renewals - Clerk
6. Accept Retirement of City Clerk Victoria V olk - Administration
Discussion Items
0 7. Receive Anoka County Sheriffs Department Monthly Report - Sheriff
8. 2007 Audit PresentationIHLB Tautges Redpath - Administration
9. Public Hearing/Amendment to Nuisance Code (Title 4, Chapter 1) - Planning & Building
10. Public Hearing/Remove Day Care Use from Industrial Zone - Planning & Building
11. Consider Amended Sketch Plan for Planned Unit Development/Southeast of the Intersection of CSAH 9
& South Coon Creek Drive - Planning
Staff Items
12. Schedule June Workshop - Administration
13. Administrator's Report - Administration
Mayor/Council Input
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MAY 20,2008
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, May 20,2008, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, Scott Baumgartner
City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Community Development Director, Will Neumeister
Others
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the CounciL
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Item 6a, (Approve Settlement Agreement - Putnam Litigation).
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Agenda as amended above. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 6, 2008, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
Councilmember Trude stated on page three, regarding the discussion on line 20 she wanted to add a
comment that was made noting "the City noise ordinance will apply even if the liquor license
0 extension is approved".
Councilmember Trude wanted to note a comment that she made after line 30 about the noise
testing:"Councilmember Trude noted that the report states that it began raining during the monitoring
and also no complaints were received that evening. All complaints were made the second night
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when a different band performed." She stated on the next page, line 41, it should be "street joining
these two areas so this would not normally have been a corner lot". On the next page OIi line 10 at
the end of the sentence add: "immediatelv around the corner."
Councilmember Trude noted on page 8, line 38, after the word north it should say "with one cul-de-
sac of homes and south to another cul-de-sac of homes".
Councilmember Jacobson stated on page 6, line 43, the sentence should read: "The applicant is
requesting a Plaimed.Unit Development to allow a variation from typical development standards."
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, approval of Minutes as indicated above. Motion carried
umm1mously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 2 Approval of Claims
0 Item 3 Approve Quotes/Septic System Abatement/2279 -154th Lane NW
Item 4 Authorize Advertisement for Bids/Fire Tanker Replacement
Item 5 Approve Garbage Hauler License Renewals
Item 6 Accept Retirement of City Clerk Victoria V olk
Item 6a Approve Settlement Agreement - Putnam Litigation
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion carried
unanimously.
RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT
Captain Tom Wells, Anoka County Sheriff's Department, provided an update on law enforcement
activities occurring within Andover.
Councilmember Trude asked if they have had higher accident rates at the intersection of Hanson
Boulevard and Bunker Lake Boulevard. Captain Wells stated they have seen some incidents with
property damage but nothing serious. He thought the traffic was slowing down, and said people have
to be patient going through there.
Councilmember Trude thought there was poor signage in the construction area and she asked Captain
Wells had to say something to the Anoka County Highway Department regarding this.
2007 AUDIT PRESENTATION/HLB TAUTGES REDPATH
City Administrator Dickinson introduced Mark Gibbs of HLB Tautges Redpath who made a
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presentation to the City Council relating to the City of Andover Comprehensive Annual Financial
Report as of December 31, 2007 and the corresponding Management Report.
PUBLIC HEARING/AMENDMENT TO NUISANCE CODE (TITLE 4, CHAPTER 1)
Community Development Director Neumeister stated at the April 22, 2008 workshop, the City
Council discussed establishing a housing maintenance code for all single-family residential. The
workshop discussion resulted in a consensus that slight modifications could be made to the current
ordinance to cover all sing1l:::-family housing units.
Mr. Neumeister reviewed the information with the Council.
Councilmember Trude stated with regard to remodeling projects, it is pretty difficult to get the
exterior replaced without having some materials in the yard. She thought a simple way to handle it
would be to insert after "out of view from adjoining properties" something like "except exterior
remodeling." If someone is having siding or windows done sometimes it takes awhile to use the
0 materials. Councilmember Orttel stated that was the problem, exterior projects and some will go for
a year or more. Councilmember Trude wondered if they should add anything. Councilmember
Orttel thought it was fine and did not think anyone would tag someone if they are putting up a piece
of siding and the material was showing. Mayor Gamache thought if the material is neat and orderly,
there would not be a problem.
Councilmember Jacobson stated he had three comments. At the bottom of page 2, under E,
"Integrity of the Dwelling Unit", he would like to restate it to read: All exterior elements of
residential dwelling units in the City shall be kept in a clean, sanitary and structurally safe condition
and in sound repair." Mr. Neumeister stated there have been cases in the past that the City Staffhas
tried to make sure that people who are violating a Code they understood that this is specific to their
case. That is why they are specifically listing these out. Councilmember Jacobson stated he was just
rewording the sentence, not commenting on the listed items.
Councilmember Jacobson noted on page 3, under F, "Remodeling Projects", it states All residents
completing undertaking: remodeling projects". Also on Page 3, under H, "Other Conditions: is guilty
of..." He wondered who "is" refers to. Councilmember Trude stated this was an old ordinance.
City Attorney Baumgartner stated at the beginning of 4-1-2 under "Public Nuisances" on page two it
says, "whoever" and that is who the "is" refers to.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
0 No one wished to address the City Council.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to adopt the attached code amendment as amended, as well
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as the summary ordinance. Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING/REMOVE DAY CARE USE FROM INDUSTRIAL ZONE
Community Development Director Neumeister explained after the rezoning of seven properties in
the HughslWestview Industrial Park from "Industrial" to "General Business" on April 15th, the
Council asked staff to bring forward a code amendment that would again make daycares a prohibited
use in the "f' district.
Mr. Neumeister discussed the information with the Council.
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
No one wished to address the City Council.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Trude, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the proposed City Code Amendment.
Motion carried nnanimously.
CONSIDER AMENDED SKETCH PLAN FOR PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT/SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CSAH 9 & SOUTH COON
CREEK DRIVE
Community Development Director Neumeister explained the applicant has submitted a revised
sketch plan based upon feedback from the May 6th Council meeting.
Mr. Neumeister reviewed the changes with the Council.
Councilmember Trude asked if the Engineering Department had a chance to look at the topography
of the land to see if the land will drain properly. Mr. Neumeister stated the engineers have not gotten
that much detail and he thought that was a concern that staffhas. He stated they felt that when this
comes back as a development plan, whether a PUD or not, they want to be concerned with how many
are slab on grade because the City would want to see as many multilevel full basement plans as
possible. The rambler style without a basement is very difficult to find storage areas in this type of
unit. They want to limit the number of homes that will be slab on grade if at all possible and they
will want them to be encouraged to try and do some grade changes on the property to save as many
of the trees as possible. This would encourage walk outs and look outs, split level type construction.
Councilmember Trude thought this would mean most of the trees on site would have to be removed
to bring things up to meet the City's two.,.foot above the one hundred year flood plain, lowest level.
Mr. Neumeister stated that is hard to tell at this point.
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Councilmember Trude knew the neighbors were concerned and so is she with the overall site.
She was not seeing any strong landscaping plans coming back. She asked "When they do a PUD,
do they still implement the two trees for every front yard rule and the yard sodded requirement?"
Mr. Neumeister indicated they will still require that.
Councilmember Knight thought the plans were too tight and he did not know how many existing
trees will be able to stay.
Councilmember Jacobson stated on block three, lot eleven on Round Lake Boulevard, there is a
thirty-foot front yard entrance on the southwest corner. With that lot and configuration, if a house
were built there, would put a house in the backyard of the two houses next to it. This is not a
good situation. Councilmember Orttel stated the house is already there. The developer indicated
their first thought was to save the house and redo it but they wanted to eliminate the drive off of
Round Lake Boulevard. With all the changes to the house, it makes more sense to take the house
down and put a new unit there. He stated the house can be turned.
Councilmember Jacobson stated another concern is Outlot B, the emergency access. He thought
there should be a second access. If it is put in a gate could be put in back further so the residents
that have lots on either side could still get in, but people could not go through. He stated they are
only down two lots, thirty-four lots and if this was a regular R-4 Development, they would
probably be looking at twenty-six lots, so they are over quite a few lots extra He stated he did
not like all the extra lots. Another concern is that he cannot find anything that the City will get
for allowing the PUD. The developer stated one of the things they are trying to create is a
different type of concept from the R-4. Councilmember Jacobson stated the City is supposed to
get something in return for allowing a PUD, but he did not see anything yet.
Councilmember Knight stated when Anoka County reviewed the street proposal, they suggested
some things. One was a divider and another was a traffic light. He ~ondered who would pay for
those improvements. Mr. Neumeister indicated it would be the developer.
Mr. Neumeister reviewed some of the changes the County wanted with the development.
Councilmember Knight stated there was a number of trees on the second outlot and he wondered
if they would all have to be removed. The developer stated the lot next to the outlot has a
number of trees that will have to be removed. Councilmember Knight wondered if the residents
in the existing area like that. It was indicated they did not want the trees removed. The
developer stated the residents were more concerned with kids going in there.
Staff reviewed with the developer and the Council the proposed a trail in the development.
Councilmember Trude thought the emergency access and trail were a good idea
Councilmember Knight asked if all of the storm water will go into the back of the development.
Mr. Neumeister indicated it wo~d and that it was a closed system without an exit. He stated
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there has to be a ponding area in the back to accommodate it. Staff thought it was adequate to
store all of the water at this point.
Councilmember Trude wondered if there is already water there or is this going to be one of those
ponds with twenty-foot banks with concerns for the children that live in the bordering homes of
the neighborhood. She stated as they move forward with this, she would like to see some kind of
berming to shield the existing home on the south from having a great drop off along their lot line
into a pond.
Councilmember Orttel wondered if they had any controls on the type of housing that is built.
The developer stated they will be looking at easy concept living homes to accommodate
handicapped people. He showed on a map the different types of housing that is proposed along
with where in the development they will be located.
Councilmember Trude stated there are eight items on the list they received from the developer
and of that list; there are only one or two that they would get with a PUD. The improved
landscaping plan could be an improvement and the trail connection an enhancement. She
thought the trail would be used more by the people in the development than anyone else. The
developer stated they have taken the Council's idea of putting in a gazebo which would be by the
pond along the pathway.
Mayor Gamache asked what their plans were along Round Lake Boulevard and in the back yards.
The developer stated mature trees and possible fencing. There is some natural retaining wall
that the County has already put in and there is some fencing so the kids cannot go into the streets.
They would propose a full landscaping plan for the Council to review.
Councilmember Knight asked if a tornado package would be included on the slab homes. The
developer indicated they have not looked at that since the last review.
Councilmember Trude thought the developer should drive around in the City and look at some
other townhome developments that have landscaping to get an idea of an improved landscaping
plan. She stated an improved landscaping plan would take away her concerns about the homes
not being very sellable. She thought they needed to do some upgrades. She thought the idea
about the patio wall on the property line is probably going to look more like an obstruction and
thought it would look better to have a natural barrier. A lot more upgrade for the center island
area will be needed to keep the small lots.
Mayor Gamache was concerned because he heard almost all of the trees will be taken down in
the center area The developer indicated most of the trees are already blown down.
Mayor Gamache asked with regard to the homes that will back onto Round Lake Boulevard, how
they will buffer some of the noise in order to sell the homes. The developer indicated they will
probably do some fencing and use some existing trees in the development moving them to buffer
the lots from the road.
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Councilmember Orttel asked how many homes they are going to build before they are sold. The
developer indicated they will probably build two models to start.
Councilmember Trude stated they are all anxious to have something that will be marketable. The
developer agreed. Councilmember did not think homes with front porches sold well in the City
along with small lots. Those that did well have extensive landscaping along with upgrades. The
developer stated their goal is to have a correct design for easy living. Councilmember Trude
thought the design looked nice.
Mayor Gamache indicated he liked the fact that they lined up the homes on the north and south
sides toward the current homes. He thought it was a benefit for safety reasons to take the
driveways off of Round Lake Boulevard.
Councilmember Trude wondered how the rest of the Council felt about the inner circle. Mayor
Gamache stated he would like to see more of the architectural ideas in there and thought that was
where they could add onto those eight items and expand on them. He thought there was a lot of
buffer on the backside of the homes, but he was concerned about the residents along Round Lake
Boulevard.
Councilmember Knight stated his concern was there will not be any existing trees in the
development.
Councilmember Jacobson wondered if this will still be a PUD. He stated the developer will need
to take all of the comments from the Planning Commission and the Council to try and come up
with what they think will work. Then come with a Preliminary Plan.
Mr. Dickinson stated from the developer's perspective, they are looking to see if there are certain
issues on the plans where there is some consensus on what they take forward. He asked if the
trail or emergency access is a must for the Council. Councilmember Trude thought it was a split
vote. Mayor Gamache stated it was not important to him. Councilmember Trude stated she
liked it. Councilmember Orttel stated it is a matter of consistency. He has to agree that it needs
to be there for the overall safety of the City.
Mr. Dickinson thought another issue for the Council was density. Councilmember Orttel thought
the development was at two units per acre, which includes the marsh area If they pull that out
they would be at less than their City average. Mr. Neumeister stated it would be 2.65 units per
acre if they used 34 lots. If they got rid of the lot on the corner, it would drop it to 2.57 units per
acres.
Councilmember Knight stated he was concerned about the water with all of the blacktop and
roofs in the development since there will be a lot ofrun off. Mr. Neumeister thought the City
Engineer would want two back-to-back hundred year storms stored in that pond because they are
closed systems. The City Engineer Department will look at that very closely.
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Councilmember Trude wondered if they could do a feature pond somewhere in the development.
Mr. Dickinson indicated the developer will have to deal with taking care of the County issue on
Round Lake Boulevard. They need to enhance landscaping and the architectural views of the
structures.
Councilmember Trude thought if the trail goes to the picnic table by the pond, this may not be
the best location since then it is inviting the entire community to use it. Mr. Dickinson thought
they might be able to have an internal trail in the development that leads to a site.
Councilmember Trude thought it might be a good idea to go over some of the engineering items
and bring it forward to the Council at a workshop before going to the next level.
SCHEDULE JUNE WORKSHOP
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, schedule a Special Council Workshop on Tuesday, June
24, 2008 at 6:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
ADMINISTRATOR REPORT
City Administrator Dickinson updated the Council on the administration and City department
activities, CIP Projects, meeting reminders, legislative topics and miscellaneous projects.
Community Development Director Neumeister updated the Council on development activity in
the City.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Community Education Advisory Council Meeting) - Councilmember Trude stated she attended
the last Community Education Advisory Council meeting and she learned the school board has
adopted Lacrosse as an official sport next year which will take a lot of pressure off the field
situation. She also learned the School Board has several high level positions coming open due to
retirements. All the cities are feeling pressure for fields for all the children and as far as she
knew within their School District, the students are not paying fees to other cities for playing on
their fields.
(YMCA Director Change) - Councilmember Trude stated she noticed in the paper that the
YMCA appointed a new director and she wondered if they were informed prior to reading about
it. Mr. Dickinson indicated he has met the new director and the new director has met all the staff
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at the Community Center.
(FEMA Mapping) - Mayor Gamache indicated he received a letter from FEMA regarding a flood
map scoping meeting they will be doing on May 29th at the Spring Lake ParkIBlainelMounds
View Fire Department. Mr. Dickinson indicated they will have three staff members attend the
meeting.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Trude, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - MAY 20,2008
TABLE OF CONTENTS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.................. ... ..................... .... .......... ..................... ....... ............. ......... 1
RESIDENT FORUM ...... ..................................... .................................... ............. .......................... 1
A GEND A APPROVAL.................................................................................................................. 1
APPROV AL OF MINUTES ..................... ................................................... ............. ............... ....... 1
CONSENT ITEMS ......................................................................................................................... 2
Approval of Claims..................................................................................................................... 2
Approve Quotes/Septic System Abatement/2279 - 154th Lane NW ..........................................2
Authorize Advertisement for Bids/Fire Tanker Replacement .................................................... 2
Approve Garbage Hauler License Renewals .............................................................................. 2
Accept Retirement of City Clerk Victoria V olk ......................................................................... 2
Approve Settlement Agreement - Putnam Litigation................................................................. 2
RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT ..................... 2
2007 AUDIT PRESENT A TION/HLB T AUTGES REDPATH ..................................................... 2
PUBLIC HEARING/AMENDMENT TO NUISANCE CODE (TITLE 4, CHAPTER 1)
o RD. 371 ........................................................................................................................................ 3
PUBLIC HEARING/REMOVE DAY CARE USE FROM INDUSTRIAL ZONE (ORD. 372)... 4
CONSIDER AMENDED SKETCH PLAN FOR PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT/SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CSAH 9 & SOUTH COON
CREEK DRIVE.............................................................................................................................. 4
SCHEDULE JUNE WORKSHOP ................................................. .................................. .............. 8
AD MINIS TRA TO R REPORT ............................................ ............................................................ 8
MA YO RICO UN CIL INPUT .......................................................................................................... 8
Community Education Advisory Council Meeting..................................................................... 8
YMCA Director Change.......... ................................................................................................... 8
FEMA Mapping...................................................................... .................................................... 9
ADJ 0 URNMEN'T........................ .................... ............................................... ........ ........................ 9
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