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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - NOVEMBER 23, 1993
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Bonnie Dehn on November
23, 1993, 7:30 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Maynard Ape1, Bev Jovanovich, Becky Pease,
Randy Peek, Jerry Putnam, Jay Squires
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City Planner, David Carlberg
Others
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
November 9, 1993: Page 3, last sentence on page, clarify the Zoning
Ordinance was amended in November, 1991, to allow rural
agricultural practices in the R-2 and R-3 districts;
therefore, pot bellied pigs would be allowed in those
districts as well.
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MOTION by Jovanovich, Seconded by Pease, to approve the Minutes. Motion
carried unanimously.
VARl'ANCE CONTINUED: ACReAGE REQUIREMENT AND EXTERIOR FINISH FOR POLE
BUILDING, 16551 FLINTWOOD STREET NW, LARRY CARLSON
Mr. Carlberg stated the applicant met with the City Building Official
and has since asked to withdraw his variance application request. He
has also requested the $75 application fee be refunded. Mr. Carlberg
stated Staff reports had been prepared and the Commission did meet on
the request, so the Commission may wish to consider refunding 50 percent
of the application fee.
The COIT~ission generally agreed with the recommendation of refunding 50
percent of the application fee since some Staff time was involved but it
did not go to the City Council.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Peek, that we accept the withdrawal of the
applicant, and I \rlOuld recommend that we refund him 50 percent of his
fee per Staff recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
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SKETCH PLAN: CROWN POINTE EAST, ASHFORD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC.,
SECTIONS 25 AND 26
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the general comments and concerns of the Andover
Review Committee regarding the proposed sketch plan of Crown Pointe
East. The developer is proposing to rezone the property to R-4, Single
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(Sketch Plan: Crosn pointe East, Ashford Development, Continued)
Family Urban. The land is not yet located wi thin the MUSA that is
required for R-4 development, but it has been included in the request
before the Metropolitan Council. The Fire and Sheriff's Departments are
concerned with emergency vehicle access to the site and have recommended
that Crown pointe and Crown pointe East have a street connection. The
developer will need to look at that issue. Quince Street NW north of
143rd Avenue NW exceeds the maximum of 500 feet, and there is concern
that the area north of Coon Creek has not been included in either the
proposed Crown pointe or Crown pointe East developments. The excessive
length of Quince Street NW is a temporary situation until the property
to the east is developed.
The Commission also expressed concern about the lack of access to the
development and wanted to see something cross the creek either to the
west to Crown pointe or to the north up to Andover Boulevard. without
additional accesses, they were concerned that a maze is being created
without sufficient ingress/egress. Mr. Carlberg stated the development
of the parcel to the east will eventually alleviate that problem, but it
is not known how long it will be before that eastern parcel is
developed. The owner of the 31 acres to the east has asked to be
included in the MUSAr but that property was not included in the City's
request to the Metropolitan Council.
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The Commission had some questions about the certain lots as to meeting
minimum lot width requirements or buildability in general. Mr. Carlberg
noted the Staff will do a detailed lot-by-lot review at the time of the
preliminary plat. He also noted the reason Quince Street touches the
eastern border is to be able to get buildable lots on the west side.
The Commission questioned why the lots are split in a triangular fashion
on Block 3, Lots 5 and 6, not caring for that approach.
Jav Windschitl, 3745 152nd Lane - didn't think the wetland condition
would allow them to cross the creek and the cost would be prohibitive.
He did not have an answer regarding the Commission's question to access
Andover Boulevard to the north. Mr. Carlberg stated the crossing of the
creek will need to be explored by the developer as to the guidelines of
the agencies involved. Chairperson Dehn again expressed concern about
only one access to the development and dumping heavy traffic onto
prairie Road. Mr. Carlberg didn't think it would be problem on Prairie
road as it is a nine-ton MSA residential street. Commissioner Apel also
commented the biggest problem is only one ingress and egress for the
entire area.
There being no further comments, Mr. Carlberg noted the item will be
reviewed by the City Council at its regular meeting on December 7, 1993.
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PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT, 17025 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW, MARIS AND
BARBARA SCHILLING
7:50 p.m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the lot split request of Maris and
Barbara Schilling to subdivide a five-acre parcel into two parcels of
2.5 acres each to create an additional lot for the construction of a
single family home. He noted the applicable ordinances and the Staff
recommendation of approval with the contingencies of paying a park
dedication fee for one lot and applying the sunset clause per the
ordinance. The newly created parcel is high, dry and buildable. The
existing structure will meet all setback requirements after the lot
split.
Chairperson Dehn opened the public hearing.
testimony.
There was no public
MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Pease, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Pease, to forward to the City Council with
recommendation of approval a Resolution granting a lot split request of
Maris and Barbara Schilling at 17025 Round Lake Boulevard NW. Motion
carried unanimously. 7:58 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BULK STORAGE OF LIQUID FUELS
(SERVICE STATION) - 13650 HANSON BOULEVARD NW, MURPHY OIL USA, INC.
7:58 P.M. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Special Use Permit request of
Murphy Oil USA, Inc., (SPUR) to locate below-ground storage tanks for
the storage of liquid fuels, gasoline and diesel, at 13650 Hanson
Boulevard NW. This is for a service station. Murphy Oil USA plans to
install three 12,000-gallon underground storage tanks. The property is
zoned I, Industrial, in which service stations are a permitted use. Mr.
Carlberg noted the applicable ordinances and stated Staff is
recommending approval with four conditions. He also noted the property
already has an existing Special Use Permit for retail trade and services
for the commercial green house currently on the site. The Attorney has
advised that the existing permit will become null and void one year
after the retail trade and services activity is stopped.
Chairperson Dehn asked if there are any restrictions or safety issues
with the service station and tanks in relation to the power company
easements across the property. Mr. Carlberg didn't think so. The power
lines are overhead and the tanks will be under ground. No structures
are allowed within the easement, and the tanks will be about 100 feet
from the overhead easements.
Commissioner Peek asked if the county plans to take additional right of
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Boulevard. The City will be working with the county regarding the
ultimate width of Bunker Lake Boulevard and access for this site. Staff
will be meeting with county representatives on this issue.
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(Public Hearing: Special Use Permit, Bulk Storage of Liquid Fuels,
Murphy Oil USA, Continued)
Commissioner Peek questioned the issue of the number of gas stations on
that corner. Mr. Carlberg noted this area is zoned for this use, and it
is known what will be on the other three corners -- county property in
the southeast corner; proposed SuperArnerica gas station on the northeast
corner; and the existing utility substation on the northwest corner.
The new proposed structure will be a welcome additional that
intersection.
Commissioner Putnam stated he will abstain from voting since his firm
occasionally does some work for Murphy Oil USA.
The public hearing was opened for testimony.
Garv Allen, Construction Enqineer for Murphv Oil - explained the tanks
will be a steel tank within a fiberglass tank, so there will be no rust.
The steel gives the tank more stability than a total fiberglass tank.
There will be an in-tank monitoring system that is monitored for each
tank. There will be no above-ground tank for propane storage. He had
a drawing of another gas station, stating the one in Andover will be
exactly like it. They are also looking at the possibility of having a
car wash on that site if there is room. Mr. Carlberg stated a car wash
is a permitted use in that district and would be reviewed as a part of
the Commercial Site Plan.
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Mr. Allen - stated they are aware of the 40-foot service road easement
and will be meeting with the county regarding easement for both Hanson
Boulevard and Bunker Lake Boulevard.
The majority of the Commissioners were comfortable with the request as
the property is zoned for that use and there are other agencies that
deal with the safety issues relating to the power line easement, though
Chairperson Dehn felt Commissioner Peek raised a good point regarding
the number of service stations on an intersection.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Abstain (Putnam) vote.
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Apel, that we forward the Resolution to the
City Council with the recommendation of approval as presented. Motion
carried on a 5-Yes, 1-No (Peek), 1-Abstain (Putnam) vote. 8:15 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT, HOME OCCUPATION IN AN ACCESSORY
STRUCTURE - 2648 SOUTH COON CREEK DRIVE, RENATO CASTRO
8:15 P.M. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Special Use Permit request of
Renato Castro to operate a home occupation in an accessory structure.
He noted the applicable ordinances and criteria for issuing a Special
Use Permit. Mr. Castro's operation consists of storing goods and
equipment such as old printing equipment in an accessory structure. He
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(Public Hearing: Special Use Permit, Home Occupation in Accessory
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will load a semi-trailer with the goods and equipment over the weekend,
with the trailer leaving the site on Monday. This activity occurs about
three to four times a year. South Coon Creek Drive is a nine-ton road
and can handle this type of traffic, though there would be weight
restrictions in the spring. This is the first time this type of use has
been requested for a home occupation. It is a unique situation, and the
Commission must decide if the use meets the intent of the "similar uses"
clause in the ordinance. Warehousing is not listed as a permitted use
for home occupations. This is not a very large operation, but he felt
it would be considered warehousing.
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Renato Castro, 2648 South Coon Creek Drive - addressed several questions
from the Commission. He stated he uses a fork lift to move the heavy
equipment to the truck. Sometimes it takes four months to collect
enough equipment, sometimes it takes as long as six months. When he has
collected enough for a load, about three times a year, he loads outside
on a Friday morning or evening, with the truck leaving on Monday
morning. He collects the equipment, brings it to his property using his
own trailer and stores it inside of his building. There is no storage
outside. It is not usually "big" equipment. Mr. Castro explained his
company, in which he is part owner, is in the process of building a
manufacturing and warehousing facility in Prior Lake. The equipment
that will be loaded and shipped this weekend will probably be the last
that he will ever do at his property.
Several Commissioners indicated they would not be in favor of granting
a permit for a warehousing operation, as they did not feel that would be
an appropriate home occupation, even though this one appears to be low
profile right now.
Mr. Castro - expected their facilities in Prior Lake to be open in
March, 1994, but again stated he did not intend to be warehousing for
the company after this loading. This will be the last time he will be
using his accessory building to store equipment for his company, and
both containers which are in his driveway now will be loaded tomorrow
and will be out on Monday. After this he will only store his personal
items. Mr. Carlberg felt it would be appropriate for Mr. Castro to
withdraw his application since he does not intend to continue the
operation, and that the City should refund a portion of the application
fee. He recommended a refund of $100. The Commission agreed that would
be appropriate and suggested Staff investigate the site to be sure the
operation stops after this weekend.
Mr. Castro - asked to withdraw his application at this time.
) Richard Pierson, 2683 South Coon Creek Drive - has been aware of this
operation for the past four or five years. He has no problem with the
smaller operation that is going on, but he wanted to tell the Commission
that this type of operation just does not fit with the zoning and the
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residential area. Now trucks come only every three to six months; but
once a Permit is issued, there is nothing that would prevent trucks from
coming more often. He was also concerned about the access to South Coon
Creek Drive from the heavily traveled Round Lake Boulevard. He didn't
have a problem with a 30-day sunset to the operation to remove the
material, but he suggested it be monitored so they don' t get an
inappropriate amount of traffic in the neighborhood.
Dionicio Boria, 1969 29th Avenue NW, owner of propertv adiacent to Mr.
Castro - agreed with Mr. Pierson. In addition, he felt the business
going on there is destructive to the neighborhood. There is no water to
fight fires. The south side of the road is heavily residential. Traffic
is a concern because it is very difficult to control. It would be a
nuisance to the neighborhood.
Monico Ancheta, 2663 South Coon Creek Drive, across from Mr. Castro -
has endured the noise of the forklift and crates being skid during the
loading of the trucks. He is glad Mr. Castro is moving his business
away from that area. South Coon Creek Drive is a very scenic road, and
he would like that area to remain that way.
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MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Pease, to accept the Renato Castro
withdrawal of the application for a Special Use Permit and designate
that we return $100 of the fees he already paid; and that Staff be
requested that they put a time limit of 20 days for the removal of that
occupancy. Motion carried unanimously. 8:45 p.m.
VARIANCE: SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE - 1831 CROSSTOWN
BOULEVARD NW, STEVEN LOUDON
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the variance request of Steven Loudon to allow for
the continued construction of an addition to an accessory structure (12'
x 26' lean-to) larger than the principal structure. The property is
1.11 acres and zoned R-1, Single Family Rural. The ordinance requires
that the total square footage of all the accessory buildings cannot
exceed 100 percent of the land cover of the principal structure. The
existing accessory structure already exceeds that requirement, but that
has been grandparented. The lean-to addition further exceeds that
limit. The existing garage is a lawful existing nonconforming use built
prior to the adoption of the ordinance. Staff is recommending it be
denied based on the fact that a there is no hardship on the topography
or shape of the land.
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The regulation favors those who can afford to build larger houses,
therefore allowing them to have larger accessory buildings, and it
opposes those with the smaller homes by not allowing them to construct
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larger accessory buildings. He was also upset that Staff directed Mr.
Loudon to apply for a variance when it is very obvious that one cannot
be granted under the strict interpretation of the ordinance.
Steve Loudon, 1831 Crosstown Boulevard NW - stated the house was built
in 1935. He does not know when the existing garage was built, but it
was before he owned the property in 1990.
Michael Click, 1853 Crosstown Boulevard NW - lived next door since 1987,
and the garage has always been there. Commissioner Apel stated the
garage has been there every since he can remember. Chairperson Dehn
understood Commissioner Apel's point. Today the City does allow three-
car garages, and this will look like a three-car garage when done. Mr.
Carlberg stated attached garages are not counted as part of accessory
structures.
Mr. Loudon - stated the existing garage is 36 feet away from the house.
Attaching a garage to the house would cost more than he could afford,
plus there is no efficient way to attach a garage to the house unless it
is put at an angle.
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There was considerable discussion with Mr. Loudon and several neighbors
as to other options. Neighbors noted Mr. Loudon's house has two stories
and asked that all the square footage of the house be included. Mr.
Carlberg explained only the ground coverage is used. He was not aware of
any variances granted to this provision of the ordinance. The neighbors
fel t that is discriminating against those who construct two-story
houses. When the house was built in 1935, it was built very
efficiently. Small, two-story homes that utilized every square foot
were the norm.
Mrs. Loudon - also explained she runs a small business from her basement
and there is no storage space whatsoever. Mr. Carlberg noted she has a
Special Use Permit for her business and is in compliance. Another
resident stated the reason for the garage is to be able to store things
in a garage rather than in the yard to make the yard look better. It
really will look nice when it is finished, asking isn't that what the
City wants, to clean up the yards? Someone asked if a deck was added to
the house if that counts as additional square footage. Mr. Carlberg
stated decks have always been excluded in the past.
Commissioner Peek then noted that considering the ordinance was written
for the way houses are built today with attached garages, and that this
house was built in an era without attached garages, he felt that is a
potential hardship. He didn't think the ordinance can accommodate that
with a strict interpretation. The applicant is asking for nothing more
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(Variance:
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Size Requirement for an Accessory Structure, Loudon,
Mr. Click - stated his house was built in 1929, and there was a major
addition to the east side before he purchased it. If it wasn't for that
addition, his garage would be illegal also. He felt consideration must
be given to when the house was built. Both stories are used as one
residence. In these old houses, every bit of the square footage is
needed.
Commissioner Jovanovich didn't think there were many houses in Andover
that are this old. If the addition is to improve the property, special
consideration should be considered. Chairperson Dehn stated she would
refrain from voting on this matter since she has done business with the
applicants.
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MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Jovanovich, that the Andover Planning and
Zoning Commission recommends approval of the variance request by Steven
Loudon at 1831 Crosstown Boulevard NW for a variance in the size of
accessory building to exceed that of the principal structure, that is to
add a 12' x 26' attachment to the existing detached garage. That the
Planning and Zoning Commission has reviewed the request and has
determined that a hardship does exist, and that hardship being the age
of the existing house. And the fact that the original property has a
detached garage and the current house construction is typically more of
an attached garage situation. And that strict interpretation of the
ordinance due to the age of the house and the fact that it is built as
a separate house with detached garage creates a hardship. Motion
carried on a 5-Yes, 1-No (Squires), 1-Abstain (Dehn) vote. This will go
to the City Council on December 21, 1993,
DISCUSSION - ORDINANCE NO. 50, FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCE
Mr. Carlberg asked that the Commission table the item to the December 14
meeting as he has not had an opportunity to prepare the necessary
background material for it. The Commission agreed.
OTHER BUSINESS
Special Meeting: Mr. Carlberg announced the Planning Commission is to
hold a special meeting on Tuesday, November 30, 1993, to discuss the
rezoning of Crown pointe and Crown Pointe East, which was referred back
to the Commission by the Council.
Expired Commission Terms: Mr. Carlberg noted the terms of Bonnie Dehn
and Jerry Putnam expire on December 31, 1993; and if they wish to
continue serving, they should submit a letter indicating an interest in
being reappointed.
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(Other Business, Continued)
Development Around Agricultural Areas: Commissioner Squires has learned
that Carver County is requiring as a part of the platting process that
the developer put a covenant on the lots indicating that the surrounding
property is agricultural. That tells the potential buyer they can
expect to have the noise, smells, etc., that accompanies agricultural
practices. He thought that may be something the Commission should look
at. Mr. Carlberg stated he will contact Carver County to obtain a copy
of their requirements.
There being no further business, Chairperson Dehn declared the meeting
adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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~a~lla A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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