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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 28, 1993
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Bonnie Dehn on September
28, 1993, 7:30 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Maynard Apel, Bev Jovanovich, Becky Pease,
Randy Peek, Jerry Putnam, Jay Squires
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City Planner, David Carlberg
Others
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 14, 1993: Correct as written.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Peek, to accept the September 14 Minutes as
written. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Present (Pease) vote.
DISCUSSION - REPAIR GARAGES (TIRE SERVICE) IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS
Mr. Carlberg explained the Zoning Ordinance adopted in January, 1971,
does not allow repair garages by special use or permitted use; and he
reviewed the definition of repair garages. He also referenced the
research of other communities, none of which allow repair garages in
residential districts. Staff has come to the conclusion that Andover's
ordinances for home occupations is one of the most flexible and lenient,
as most communities do not allow home occupations in attached or
detached garages. Staff does not recommend any changes to the Zoning
Ordinance that would allow repair garages in residential districts.
Mr. Carlberg stated he has prepared a Resolution relating to Crooked
Lake Tire which he has forwarded to the City Attorney; however, the
Attorney has not yet responded.
Discussion was on the variance request of Crooked Lake Tire.
Commissioner Apel questioned why it should come back to them if the use
is not allowed by Special Use Permit nor by a variance. He does not
favor changing the ordinance but also would not be a part of any attempt
to shut the business down. He did not feel it would be setting a
precedent to allow Mr. Kunza to continue operating, since there are no
other tire repair businesses that have been in operation for 17 to 18
years. This is an operation that the City has done business with over
the years; and given that, the owner has some expectation that he will
be allowed to continue, not be allowed to stay in business for 17 years
and then shut down when a competitor complains. Since the issue began
at the Council level, Commissioner Apel felt they should find a way to
allow Mr. Kunza to stay in business. Mr. Carlberg stated the item was
tabled and needs to be addressed unless the applicant withdraws the
request. Staff determination is that any ordinance violation is
prohibited and that the ordinances must be enforced uniformly.
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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
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(Discussion - Repair Garages in Residential Districts, Continued)
Corrunissioner Squires felt the request is a use variance and is not
appropriate. He also agreed with Staff that the ordinance should not be
changed to allow this type of use as a home occupation and that rezoning
is not proper because it would be spot zoning. He felt the City Council
should deal with this issue.
Corrunissioner Peek felt the problem with repair garages is the fact that
they are dirty and noisy businesses. He wondered if there could be a
stricter definition and look at limited aspects of automobile servicing.
Mr. Carlberg felt those are subject to interpretation.
Chairperson Dehn agreed the ordinance should not be changed. The
Crooked Lake Tire issue is a special situation since it has been ongoing
for 17 years and the City has participated in purchasing tires from it
as well. Also, it was next to a Neighborhood Business center when it
began. The fact that it is now residential is not the fault of the
business.
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Corrunissioner Squires stated a complaint was served against Mr. Kunza,
and he felt this is a litigation. He was concerned about the prospect
of exempting the operation from the ordinance altogether, feeling that
opens up a whole problematic area. Perhaps the City Council could, in
the context of resolving the potential litigation, consider some terms,
whatever terms the Council desires, which technically would not
constitute as much of a precedent as simply enacting a resolution to not
apply the ordinance in this case. If there is some pending, threatening
or existing litigation, then it is limited to this unique situation.
Steve Klinowski, 3512 135th Lane - is in research for the building and
construction trades. Their attorneys represent the Cities of White Bear
Lake, Vadnais Heights, and Roseville. When thinking of a service garage
or service station, it involves changing oil. When a mechanic is on
site changing oil and transmission fluid, a license is necessary from
the County of Anoka because hazardous wastes are produced. Mr. Kunza
does not produce hazardous waste and does not require a license from
Anoka County. He suggested in the ordinance defining service garages,
the changing of tires could legally be exempted because hazardous waste
is not being produced. He suggested the Cities of White Bear Lake,
Vadnais Heights and Roseville be called because changing tires is a
permitted use in those cities. He suggested the ordinance be amended to
allow the changing of tires because no hazardous waste is being
produced.
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Ken Orttel, 2772 Bunker Lake Boulevard NW - stated Mr. Carlberg had
mentioned to the City Council on August 3 the provision in the ordinance
that certain uses, while generally not suitable in a particular zoning
district, may, under certain circumstances, be suitable and a Special
Use Permit may be granted. He asked if the City Attorney advised that
this provision does not apply. Mr. Carlberg stated the Council did not
seem interested in that as an option in this case. It was not
discussed.
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(Discussion - Repair Garages in Residential Districts, Continued)
Mr. Orttel - wondered if that is a
that give him basis to apply for a
stated he may apply for the Special
legal option for Mr.
Special Use Permit?
Use Permit under that
Kunza. Does
Mr. Carlberg
provision.
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Mr. Orttel - according to the Council motion at that meeting, he felt
the Council is waiting for a specific recommendation from the
Commission in the way of changes to the ordinances to allow this. If
this provision does allow it, he felt that would be the simplest
procedure to use because of the uniqueness of the situation. He noticed
that some cities differentiate between minor and major service type
operations. He felt this type of business does exist in the other
cities around Andover like Ramsey, Oak Grove, Ham Lake -- cities that
were not contacted. There are some types of service that are quite
minor, and this is one; and he thought there are scores of these types
of businesses in the City. He related a personal experience of becoming
aware of a business in Andover where automobile and boat detailing is
done in a carpeted garage which is cleaner than most people's living
rooms. The businesses of auto detailing, tires, batteries, tune-ups,
certainly do exist; and he felt the ordinance should allow those types
of minor services. If the ordinance is written strong enough with
inside work, minimum number of cars, no signs, word-of-mouth type
business, he didn't think it would be offensive. He also felt the
ordinance could require something like 75 percent of the neighbors
within 500 feet approve of the business in writing. That narrows it
down and would limit the number of these types of businesses. That way
this minor repair is allowed for everybody; and if the neighborhood
approves, there is no problem.
John Kunza, Crooked Lake Tire - has many customers from Anoka, including
4/5 of the City Council. Those Councilmembers researched their
ordinances and found that if he was located in the City of Anoka, they
would have no reason to get rid of him and would allow him to continue
operating. Mr. Carlberg stated the Anoka Staff has indicated a
different policy than what the Council is indicating.
Commissioner Squires felt the Commission's preference is to refer the
item back to the City Council for them to resolve. They understand the
legitimacy of Mr. Kunza's position. Chairperson Dehn felt the other
avenues of resolving the Crooked Lake Tire issue through a Special Use
Permit and defining the major and minor services in the City with
restrictions should also be pursued. She agreed the ordinance should
not be amended and that this item should be dealt with by the City
Council. Mr. Carlberg stated Mr. Kunza could apply for a Special Use
Permit under the clause noted by Mr. Orttel. The Permit could establish
specific findings of fact that would establish this as unique and that
the Special Use Permit would apply. That was raised at the City Council
meeting but was not discussed. The Commission felt the City Council
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(Discussion - Repair Garages in Residential Districts, Continued)
Commissioner Squires didn't want to see Mr. Kunza put through another
procedure. His preference would be to see if it couldn't be resolved
through the Council through the settlement of litigation concept first.
The issue could then be resolved expediently with the Council giving
direction, reaching 'an informal agreement with Mr. Kunza, and an
agreement drafted. If that doesn't work, then put him through the
procedure again. He felt the language of the ordinance provision raised
by Mr. Orttel is broad enough to apply in this instance. Mr. Carlberg
stated Mr. Kunza could withdraw the variance request; otherwise the
Commission must consider it again since it was tabled.
Commissioner Peek did not agree with throwing this back to the City
Council. He felt there potentially are some clean auto-related
businesses in the City and that it may be appropriate at this time to
examine amending the ordinance. Commissioner Apel tended to agree, that
it may be appropriate to designate major and minor activities.
Commissioner Putnam agreed with Commissioner Squires that the item be
resolved through the settlement of litigation concept first; however, he
preferred using the Special Use Process for those types of uses rather
than coming up with major and minor activities, as there may be some
businesses out there that may not fit those definitions.
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MOTION by Squires, Seconded by Jovanovich, that we send the Crooked Lake
Tire issue back to the Council with direction that attempt should be
made to settle the whole issue with Mr. Kunza in the context of settling
litigation. That we don't recommend any changes to the ordinance; and
that if it can't be resolved, then the Council should look closely at
the catch-all Conditional Use Permit provision. Motion carried on a 5-
Yes, 2-No (Apel, Peek) vote.
Commissioner Apel opposed the motion because he felt the best way to
handle the issue is to run it through the Special Use Permit process.
But before that is done, however, there should be some consensus as to
whether or not it would be approved. He didn't want Mr. Kunza to go
through another procedure for nothing. Chairperson Dehn had concerns
with the conditions of a Special Use Permit, also not wanting to have
Mr. Kunza go through that only to have it defeated. Mr. Carlberg stated
the item will go forward without the variance and will be placed on the
October 19, 1993, City Council agenda for discussion. The Commission
agreed to leave the variance request tabled until after the City Council
discusses the direction asked for in the motion.
DISCUSSION - ORDINANCE NO. 95, BOULEVARD ENCROACHMENTS
Mr. Carlberg stated this was tabled at the September 14, 1993, meeting
for further review by Staff and City Attorney. Staff was not clear as
/ to what changes were to be made other than to look at a hold harmless
clause for those mailboxes that are non-conforming. The City Attorney
did not feE:.J. a hold harmless clause was appropriate and did not
recommend it. The Attorney felt the ordinance regarding mailboxes either
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(Discussion - Ordinance No. 95, Boulevard Encroachments, Continued)
needs to be enforced or removed. Staff is recommending any change to
the ordinance include the removal of the appeal procedure, as that
procedure is not included for any other ordinance violation. It is his
understanding the Commission is saying there shouldn't be anything in
the boulevard, though there is the question of regulating mailboxes
which are required by the US Postal Service. The consensus at the last
meeting was the monuments and pillars should be back far enough and out
of the boulevards.
Mr. Carlberg also reported he asked the Attorney about adding a
provision in the ordinance that the City is not liable if the mailbox
does not meet the 4x4 postal regulations; however, the Attorney has
advised that the City is liable whether that provision is in the
ordinance or not. The City has insurance that covers those types of
things. He was aware of only one instance where there was a problem
with a mailbox in the boulevard of a county road. This situation is
that nothing was done for so long, and now the issue is what can be
done. There is also the issue of the 6x6 posts in Kensington Estates
which are very attractive but still don't meet ordinance requirements.
Mr. Carlberg noted the ordinance provisions were adopted in 1991 because
of the problem with sprinklers in the boulevards. He didn't know if
anyone had looked at the ramifications of the mailbox regulations.
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Commissioner Apel was not comfortable with telling people they must
change what they have been allowed to do until this point. He had no
opposition to the very attractive mailboxes if the mail carriers don't.
There may be some areas where the health, safety and welfare aspect may
apply. Commissioner Peek asked if the type of structure permitted is
tied to the speed limit of the road. Mr. Carlberg didn't believe it is.
The Commission noted that if the snowplow cannot plow close enough to a
mailbox so service can continue, it is the resident's responsibility to
take care of the mailbox. Commissioner Putnam stated he is not against
attractive mailboxes, noting there is even a hazard with the 4x4 posts
when hit at a certain speed and at a certain angle. Mr. Carlberg didn't
know how the provision of a 4x4 post was derived.
Commissioner Peek felt that any regulations for mailboxes is arbitrary,
though he agreed the comments on the appeals process are probably valid.
It is an issue of enforcement. If it is not going to be enforced, why
have it? Commissioner Pease asked if the 4x4 post provision is that
important. She noted that in the sandy soil at her place, the 4x4 post
kept getting knocked down.
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After further discussion, the Commission agreed that the regulations on
the type of mailboxes should be deleted from the ordinance except to
indicate that they are permitted in the boulevard areas. Section 4,
Section A, would allow mailboxes and newspaper stands. Delete
"consisting of posts larger of 4x4..." Also, remove Section 12, the
appeal procedure. Other provisions of the ordinance remain, so pillars,
monuments, boulders, etc., will not be permitted in the boulevards
unless a permit is issued; and that has not been a policy of the City.
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(Discussion - Ordinance No. 95, Boulevard Encroachments, Continued)
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Peek, that we direct the Planning Department
to take the present ordinance to the Council and suggest that a measure
of easier enforcement would be to remove the appeal process and the
specific notations of 4x4 posts for mailboxes. Motion carried
unanimously. Mr. Carlberg stated this will be placed on the October 5,
1993, City Council agenda.
OTHER BUSINESS
Amendment to Comprehensive Plan - Mr. Carlberg updated the Commission on
the status of the Major Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan request of
235 buildable acres to be included in the MUSA. The Metropolitan
Council Staff has again brought up the transportation issue. City
representatives are meeting tomorrow with representatives from the
Metropolitan Council, BRW, Ramsey, Anoka County and the Highway
Department to set the parameters on the study for Highway 10. They have
also asked to be placed on the agenda of the Metropolitan Council Board
to address their previous agreement to allow Andover to continue
development while the transportation study is being done. The continued
expansion allows Andover to pay for the costs of trunk sewer and
watermain already installed.
There being no further business, Chairperson Dehn declared the meeting
adjourned. Meeting adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Respectfully ~bmitted,
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Mar lla A. Peach
Recor 'ng Secretary