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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 8, 1993
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Bonnie Dehn on June 8,
1993, 7:30 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
Maynard Apel, Bev Jovanovich, Marc McMullen
(arrived at 8:25 p.m.), Becky Pease, Randy
Peek, Jay Squires
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Building Official, David Almgren
City Planner, David Carlberg
Others
Commissioners present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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May 25, 1993 - Page 4, fifth paragraph, add after the first sentence,
"Commissioner Jovanovich felt there were enough parks in
Andover. With all the upkeep required and with the Parks
Department not being able to keep up as it is, she questioned
why another park is needed."
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Peek, to approve the Minutes as amended.
Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (McMullen) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT - 14817 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW, JAMES KNOLL
7:32 P.M. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of Jim Knoll to subdivide
a 2 1/2-acre parcel from a large track of land at 14817 Round Lake
Boulevard. The proposed lot meets the ordinance requirements. He has
~alked to the applicant regarding the 34-foot strip of land that will
remain between the proposed lot and the property line of the larger
track to the east and suggested the lot be moved to eliminate that
strip. Mr. Knoll preferred to keep the strip as a driveway to get back
to the fields. Park dedication will be $400 for one dwelling unit.
'fhe Commission discussed the strip of land that will remain to the east.
Mr. C3rlberg stated there is nothing in the ordinance which requires the
lot to be moved to the edge of the existing parcel. The proposed lot
does meet all ordinance requirements. A building permit would not be
allowed in the back because the resulting parcel would not have 300 feet
of frontage unless a road is constructed to City standards. The front
of the proposed lot is on a publicly maintained right of way, though it
is not an improved road.
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The hearing was opened for public testimony.
.Jim 15.1'1011 3339 157th Avenue - was presented to ask questions. The
Commission had no questions.
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(Public Hearing: Lot Split, 14817 Round Lake Boulevard, Continued)
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (McMullen) vote.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Pease, that the P & Z forward the lot split
request of Jim Knoll to the Council recommending approval of his lot
split request per the resolution prepared by Staff. Motion carried on
a 6-Yes, I-Absent (McMullen) vote. The item will be placed on the
July 6, 1993, City Council agenda. 7:42 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT, 135XX POppy STREET NW, ANOKA COUNTY
COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM
7: 42 p. m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of the Anoka County
Community Action Program to subdivide a parcel on Poppy Street into two
parcels. It is in an R-4 district. Water has not been available to
this area, so each lot will have a separate well; however, two sewer
stubs have been provided. Both parcels will exceed the minimum lot
requirements. A $400 park dedication fee will be required for each
parcel. ACCAP plans to relocate two buildings from the Round Lake
Boulevard project onto these lots. Staff recommends approval with the
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sunset clause. Mr. Carlberg also noted the Commission may wish to
recommend the park dedication fees be waived as a courtesy to another
governmental agency, though there is no provision in the ordinance to do
so. Other fees have been waived. The Park and Recreation Commission
has not looked at this item since they do not get involved in lot split
requests.
The hearlng was opened for public testimony.
Steve Kline, ACCAP Plannina Director - expressed gratitude for the
cooperation received from the City. They are willing to negotiate
something for the park dedication fee and would like to show good faith
in terms of paying something. The houses are sold at cost to first-time
home buyers, and they try to enhance the home to a higher level with the
potential profits.
Commissioner Jovanovich asked about the potential of City water. Mr.
Carlberg explained it will not be available unless a majority of the
residents petition for it or unless there is a health hazard. They are
deep wells which meet state codes. He didn't believe the drilling of
additional wells in that area is a factor. There are twin homes on
both parcels abutting the proposed lots, which were allowed as part of
the platting process. Staff received no comments from anyone on the
proposed lot split. Commissioner Jovanovich felt the proposal would be
a good use of the land and would enhance that area.
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Commissioner Squires did not feel it would be equitable to waive the
park dedication fees but would be comfortable if a standard policy would
be established to waive fees for other governmental entities. In this
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(Public Hearing: Lot Split, 135xx Poppy Street, ACCAP, Continued)
case the City would be waiving the fee for the county, a larger
governmental body; but since the ultimate use is for residential, he
felt the $400 per lot would not be that much and should be applied. He
again suggested a policy be established for the future. After further
discussion, the Commission agreed to recommend the park fees be required
but recognized that the City Council has the authority to waive them.
MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Jovanovich, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote.
MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Squires, that the Andover Planning and
zoning commission forward to the City Council with the recommendation
for approval the Resolution contained as exhibited in the packet for lot
split request by the Anoka County Community Action Program to create two
lots for placement of two relocated single family homes, parcels located
at 135xx Poppy Street NW. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent
(McMullen) vote. This item will be placed on the July 6, 1993, City
Council agenda. 8:00 p.m.
DISCUSSION _ RELOCATING STRUCTURES, 135XX POppy STREET NW, ANOKA COUNTY
COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM
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Mr. Carlberg had photographs of the homes to be relocated from Round
Lake Boulevard to the parcels to be created on Poppy Street (See
previous item). The blue home is to be located on the southern parcel,
and the yellow house will be relocated on the northern one-half of the
lot split. Both will have detached garages, and they seem to be
compatible with the neighboring area. The Building Department will
inspect the structures to be sure they meet code.
Steve Kline, ACCAP - stated any upgrading on the outside of the homes
will be a function of the budget. They will have basements as approved
by the Building Department. Mr. Almgren stated the homes are compatible,
built within the same year as the surrounding homes. According to State
law, they 10 not have to do anything to the homes outside of making them
structurally sound. Commissioner Jovanovich stated she lives in that
neighborhood and felt the homes would be an asset to that area.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Jovanovich, that the P & z recommend to the
City Council that these structures certainly appear to be compatible
with the area and we would recommend that they be allowed to move into
that area. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (McMullen) vote.
VARIANCES: LOT WIDTH, AREA REQUIREMENT AND SIDEYARD SETBACK FROM A
MAJOR ARTERIAL - ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW, ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY ACTION
PROGRAM
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Mr. Carlberg reviewed the variances requested for properties located
along Round Lake Boulevard NW which are a result of the proposed
construction of the road. The Anoka County Community Action Program is
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(Variances: Round Lake Boulevard, ACCAP, Continued)
interested in purchasing a number of these properties and applying for
necessary variances where the houses are to remain and also where the
houses will be removed. ACCAP will be constructing new homes on those
lots where the existing home has been or will be removed.
Steve Kline, ACCAP - explained the houses to be constructed on vacant
lots will be end-loading ramblers with driveways from the side streets.
The first house will access from 136th Avenue into the 24-foot attached
garage. Commissioner Apel pointed out if the variances are granted, a
new home can be constructed on the sites. If they are denied, they
parcels will remain as unbuildable lots. He saw no reason for denying
the variances. Mr. Carlberg stated for those houses remaining, if the
variances are denied, they become nonconforming lots and the homes
cannot be replaced if destroyed over 51 percent. Commissioner Squires
stated they are being asked to allow variances to the City ordinances to
resolve the problem the county may have created rendering the lot
nonconforming. It appears to meet the definition of a hardship as it is
a result of something that is not under the control of the property
owner. The road will benefit the City and the residents, and the City
is now in a position to grant the variances due to the hardship on those
affected lots.
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parcels will require a variance from the 40-foot setback requirement
from a major arterial road. Several Commissioners also urged ACCAP to
provide some berming along Round Lake Boulevard similar to that on the
west side of the street.
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Mr. Kline - stated he too would like to see some berming along there but
felt that is a function of the final layout. They do not intend to
place decks on these structures. If decks are put on in the future and
variances are needed, it will be the responsibility of the homeowner.
Mr. Carlberg stated the Building Department will review the building
plans with regard to potential decks per the ordinances.
(Commissioner McMullen arrived at this time, 8:25 p.m.)
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After further discussion, it was agreed the first four lots on which new
homes will be constructed should be granted variances; however, an
additional variance for the setback from a major arterial is needed for
lots 3541 135th Lane NW and 13433 Round Lake Boulevard NW. Staff felt
those variances can be recommended this evening even though it was not
listed in the agenda material, as no ordinance is being violated by
adding these additional variances. The Commission preferred a violation
into the 40-foot setback from the major arterial road than from the six-
foot interior lot line setback. The Commission again expressed a
preference for a berm along Round Lake Boulevard for both aesthetics and
safety, though they recognized that cannot be made a condition of the
variances. They were also concerned about the similarity of the
exteriors.
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(Variances: Round Lake Boulevard, ACCAP, Continued)
Mr. Kline - stated they will be similar in design, but they will vary
the exterior with vinyl siding, the color of roof, etc. Mr. Almgren
said they comply with the distances for similar style housing. They will
have to comply with the surrounding area to make them look compatible.
Mr. Kline - stated it is their desire to put in a berm. In some cities
they work with the city engineers, providing plans that are reasonable.
It is not something they can logistically do themselves. Their desire is
to enhance the neighborhood, stating the City will be pleased with the
end product. They will meet the concerns of the City to the best of
their ability.
Mr. Carlberg explained the intent is to combine the parcel at 3559 134th
Avenue with the lot to the north. If that is done, only variances for
setback from a major arterial and lot width will be needed. The
homeowner would like to see the variance granted; as without itr it will
be considered a nonconforming structure.
Mr. Kline - stated they will hire a general contractor to improve the
building which is to remain. He will be involved with the buyer and
financing so the buyer is ready to go. They retain ownership until the
) house is sold. He thought this would be a two-bedroom home with a
potential design for a third bedroom.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by McMullen, proposing that the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council the approval of the
variances requested by ACCAP on the property located at 13611 Round Lake
Boulevard NW, the variances being the lot width of 15 feet variance to
the lot width of 75 feet; the lot area of 11,400 varied by 150 square
feet to 11,250 square feet. That on this particular property that the
builder and owner work closely with the City Staff to provide some sort
of berming along the Round Lake Boulevard side of the lot. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by McMullenr Seconded by Jovanovich, that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends that we approve the variances requested on the lot
width at the building setback line and the lot area requirement for
13547 Round Lake Boulevard NW. Lot width being a variance of 15 feet to
75 feet; the lot area being the variance of 225 square feet to 11,175
square feet. That on this particular property that the builder and
owner work closely with the City Staff to provide some sort of berming
along the Round Lake Boulevard side of the lot. Motion carried
unanimously.
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MOTION by Squires, Seconded by Apel, approval of variances proposed for
3541 135th Lane NW, variance of 19 feet on the lot width to 71 feet and
variance of 525 square feet to 10,875 square feet on lot area. Also a
variance on the side yard setback from a major arterial street of 3 feet
to 37 feet. That on this particular property that the builder and owner
work closely with the City Staff to provide some sort of berming along
the Round Lake Boulevard side of the lot. Motion carried unanimously.
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(Variances: Round Lake Boulevard, ACCAP, Continued)
MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Jovanovich, recommend approval of the
variances as requested for 13433 Round Lake Boulevard NW, primarily a
lot width variance to 70 feet, a variance of 30 feet; lot area from the
required 11,400 square feet to 10,188 square feet, a variance of 1212
square feet; and a variance of 4 feet into the 40-foot sideyard setback
from a major arterial for a total of 36 feet. That on this particular
property that the builder and owner work closely with the City Staff to
provide some sort of berming along the Round Lake Boulevard side of the
lot. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Pease, Seconded by Peek, the Planning and zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of the variances for 3559 134th
Avenue NW; vary the setback for the major arterial of 23.83 feet; a
variance of lot width to 53 feet instead of the required 100 feet, which
is a variance of 47 feet; and to have consideration for a berm or some
kind of sideyard berming protection. Variances on condition that the
lot from the north be combined to the one on the south and that building
removed. Motion carried unanimously. This item will be placed on the
July 6, 1993, City Council agenda.
) PUBLIC HEARING: AMEND ORDINANCE NO.8, SECTION 8.08, PARKING
REQUIREMENTS - CURB CUT STANDARDS
Mr. Carlberg provided photos of homes with curb cuts of various widths.
The City Council has directed the Planning Commission to consider an
amendment changing the curb cut width from 24 feet maximum unless
approved by the City Engineer to 12 feet per garage to a maximum of 36
feet unless a variance is granted. There have been a number of
driveways constructed without City Engineer approval that are larger
than 24 feet. At the time the ordinance was approved, it was
commonplace to have two-car garages. Now three-car garages are common.
The concern he has with the wider driveways is the aesthetics with the
larger amount of frontage that is utilized for driveway on the smaller
lots. Staff is also concerned about having no place to put the snow with
so much area taken up as driveways, especially in cul-de-sacs. Mr.
Carlberg also questioned how much more water is added to the storm
drainage with the additional hard-surfaced driveways.
There was a lengthy Commission discussion on possible alternatives. Mr.
Almgren explained the minimum of 12 feet wide was reached with one-car
garages and lot widths of 300 feet. The 24-foot width was required
because the street width was 26 feet and they did not want driveways
wider than the streets. In the last three to four years they have been
building three- and four-car garages. He felt the lot size restricts
the width of the driveways on cul-de-sacs, so that may not be much of a
problem. He also felt that those building the $250,000+ homes should be
able to put in the width of driveway they want.
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(Public Hearing: Ordinance 8, Section 8.08, Parking, Continued)
The Commission suggested the possibilities of requiring a minimum green
space, that larger driveways be allowed on the larger lots. They
suggested Staff determine a minimum and a maximum width based on the
percentages of the frontage, similar to what is done in Blaine. They
agreed to table the item, asking Staff and/or the ARC Committee to
determine a more definitive and more restrictive requirement.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by McMullen, to table this item until the next
meeting and let Staff look at it for additional information. Motion
carried unanimously.
VARIANCE: ORDINANCE NO. 10, SECTION 9.06(A)(3), 39,000 SQUARE-FOOT
REQUIREMENT - 1487 161ST AVENUE NW, TONY EMMERICH
Commissioner Apel questioned the request to vary from the 39,000 square-
foot requirement, as that has not been varied from in the past. Mr.
Almgren didn't have a problem with this variance. Commissioner Apel
fel t in this case there is a conflict between adhering to the Tree
Ordinance and to the Septic System Ordinance. Mr. Almgren felt that
because the Septic System Ordinance was in place first, that would take
precedence.
Tonv Emmerich - stated the parcel does have 39,000 square feetr but it
is not contiguous. This is a very unique situation which he felt meets
the intent but not the specifics of the ordinance. If the specifics of
the ordinance are to be met, they would have to destroy a significant
number of trees, which the owner does not want to do.
Hr. Carlberg noted a sketch that indicates the Iotas is has room for
the house, an accessory building and two septic systems. In order to
get around removing the trees and grading, Mr. Emmerich has requested a
variance. The Tree Commission has not reviewed this, but the City is
interested in preserving large stands of significant trees. This was
never an issue before; however, now they are running into the wetland
and protection of trees; and meeting the requirement is becoming more
and more difficult. Mr. Carlberg felt that a specific number of square
feet must be stated for the variance.
~r. Emmerich - stated he did not have a specific number from which they
would vary. He felt they would be varying from the word "contiguous".
There is no problem with room for a primary and a secondary septic
system. He felt the intent of the ordinance is to provide for a primary
and secondary septic systems to support a home at a certain elevation
plus support an accessory building. That intent is accomplished on this
lot, though the specific number in the ordinance is not met.
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Commissioner Apel stated property on which taxes were paid for 15 or
more years is now being found unbuildable because of the inflexibility
of ordinances and changes regarding trees and wetlands. He felt the
septic system ordinance is very anti-ecological with no logical basis
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(Variance: 39,000 S.F. Requirement, 1487 161st Avenue, Continued)
for maintaining the position of strict enforcement. He was hesitant to
bulldoze the trees out and change an aesthetically pleasing environment
just to come up with the number in the ordinance, stating that common
sense dictates the variance be granted.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by McMullen, the Resolution approving the
variance request of Tony Emmerich; WHEREAS the P & Z reviewed the
request and has determined that said request meets the requirements set
forth in Ordinance No. 10, Section 9.06a(3); and WHEREAS the Planning
and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of the
variance request as it does meet the criteria of Ordinance No. 10,
Section 17.01; add another WHEREAS strict adherence to Ordinance 10,
Section 9.06a(e) would be in direct conflict with the Tree Preservation
Policy in the City of Andover, we feel that this variance request should
be approved. In the last paragraph, add hereby approve the variance
requested by Tony Emmerich Construction to Ordinance No. 10, Section
9.06a(3). Motion carried unanimously. The item will be placed on the
July 6, 1993, City Council agenda.
VARIANCE: ORDINANCE NO. 10, SECTION 9.06(A)(3), 150' X 150' BUILDABLE
AREA - 16XXX HANSON BOULEVARD NW, TONY EMMERICH
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Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of Tony Emmerich Constructionr Inc.,
to vary from the buildable area requirement to construct a home at l6xxx
Hanson Boulevard NW. The variance is needed because of the large power
line easement on the property which creates a hardship in achieving the
building pad area. To fill an area to achieve the 150' x 150' buildable
area pad would mean a large number of trees would have to be destroyed.
Mr. Almgren pointed out the 39,000 square-foot requirement is met within
the power line easement; however, the home cannot be constructed within
that easement. He proposed the building pad be established immediately
east of the easement line following the 900-foot elevation to about 15
feet from the structure dropping at a 2 percent slope. The garage floor
would be at 908.6 feet. This situation provides a 150' x 100' building
pad without going into the easement, does not destroy any trees, and
fits in with the surrounding area. The driveway will come out to Hanson
Boulevard. He has never had a situation like this before.
Tonv Emmerich - stated he was concerned about not wanting to take out
trees to create that building pad. Commissioner Apel noted that all
other easements are included in the 39,000 square-foot requirement;
therefore, the power line easement should also be considered in that
calculation. In the past, the buildable lot had to contain 39,9000
square feet. This lot meets that requirement. In this particular case,
he didn't think a variance is needed, that there is nothing to vary
from.
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Mr. AJ.mgren felt a variance is needed for the building pad. By taking 50
feet from the building setback line within the easement, the building
pad would meet the 150' x 150 requirement. He too felt the ordinance
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(Variance: 150' x 150' Buildable Area, 16xxx Hanson Blvd, Continued)
may have to be changed because of the many different lots corning in.
Mr. Carlberg felt the problem is there is "buildable" for septic
systems, and there is "buildable" for principal structures; but the
ordinance doesn't distinguish between the two.
Commissioner Peek noted the land under the easement is unbuildable for
the structure and felt the variance would then be for over 31,000 square
feet. Mr. Almgren argued the 39,000 square feet is exceeded; the issue
is a building pad for the structure outside of the power line easement.
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MOTION by Apel, Seconded by McMullen, that we recommend approval of the
variance request of Tony Emmerich Construction, Inc., for the Hanson
Boulevard property; WHEREAS the Planning and zoning Commission has
determined that said request meets the requirements set forth in
Ordinance No. 10, Section 9.06a(3) because the area to the east of the
power line easement comprises an area of 100' x 150', which is 15,000
square feet, and the area to the west of the power line easement
comprises at least an area 50 x 150 square feet, which is 7,500 square
feet, those two together comprises the building pad of 150' x 150',
equalling 22,500 square feet; it might be noted also there is at least
42,000 square feet of high buildable land on this particular lot.
WHEREAS the Planning and zoning Commission recommends to the City
Council approval of the variance request requested by Tony Emmerich
Construction, Inc. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-No (Peek) vote.
Cooonissioner Pease recommended the Commission revisit this portion of
the ordinance again to provide a better definition of what is contiguous
and what is buildable. Right now it is very restrictive, and she felt
something broader is needed. The Commission agreed.
There being no further business, Chairperson Dehn declared the meeting
adjourned at 10:32 p.m.
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