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CITY of ANDOVER
lar Park & Recreation Commission Meeting-December 7, 1995
Minutes
The Regularly Scheduled Andover Park & Recreation Commission
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Tom Anderson at 7:05
p.m., Thursday, December 7, 1995.
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Al Grabowski, Dave O'Toole, Jim Lindahl,
Roger paulson
Dave Erickson, Jeff Keiffer
Todd Haas, Assistant City Engineer;
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent:
Also Present:
Resident Forum
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Merle Prochniak, representing the Andover Recreational
Development Association - requested that the Park Commission
earmark $5,000 that is being donated by the Lions Club to the
Field of Dreams as the ceramic needs to be installed in the
building and if they don't have the volunteers to do it they will
have to find another way to have it installed.
Commissioner O'Toole noted that there is supposed to be a
separate account that they can draw on for funds.
MOTION by Paulson, seconded by Lindahl to earmark $5,000 from the
Lions Club donation for the Field of Dreams and to have the ARDA
fund set up so that the Park Board knows how much money is in it.
Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 abstain (O'Toole) vote.
Approval of Minutes
November 16, 1995
Commissioner Grabowski noted that on the last page of the minutes
under Scheduling of Ball Tournaments the second sentence should
read "Commissioner Grabowski noted that state deadlines by
January 15 for forming adult tournaments".
MOTION by O'Toole, seconded by Lindahl to approve the minutes of
November 16, 1995 as amended. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1
abstain (paulson) vote.
Mr. Haas asked that the Revised Hockey Schedule for 1995-1996 be
added to the agenda as Item *8.
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Bituminous walkway Discussion for New Developments, Cont.
Mr. Haas explained that the Planning and zoning Commission met on
this item and they would like to see bituminous walkways along
with sidewalks in new developments starting in 1996. He noted
that the only trails we have constructed are in Kelsey Park.
Shadowbrook is one area where trails would be required and the
developer would be required to pay for them. The Planning
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Commission wants to see a map showing trail locations and see a
policy for sidewalks. Scott Erickson and Todd Haas would like to
see a trail system developed along major roads. Mr. Erickson is
also looking at recommending that park dedication fees would not
be used for trails and the trails would not be a part of the park
dedication requirements.
Mr. Haas noted that the County is talking about taking the State
Aid designation off Andover Boulevard and putting it on Bunker
Lake Boulevard. If this is done, a trail along Bunker Lake
Boulevard would be eligible for state aid funds.
Commissioner Lindahl questioned whether a lot split would be
considered a development for purposes of constructing a trail
system. Mr. Haas noted that would be something the Planning
Commission will need to decide. Mr. Lindahl also explained that
the curb cuts must meet ADA standards.
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Mr. Haas stated that this will be brought to the Planning
Commission in January. No action was taken by the Park
Commission.
Park & Recreation Director Discussion, Cont.
Mr. Fursman explained that he and Todd went to several other
cities to learn how their recreations programs are operated.
Adult programming is usually run by the city. However,
association participation is needed or the program wouldn't work.
Mr. Fursman noted that the school district is concerned that
we're trying to take over their programming, which is not the
case. He suggested meeting with the associations and the school
district to introduce this idea.
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Commissioner Paulson questioned whether the director would have a
staff. Mr. Fursman noted that eventually that would happen. He
felt that the first year would allow the director time to get the
program established. He also noted that the associations would
run the children's programs, not the adult programs. Mr. Fursman
explained that if a new city hall is built, the present building
would be utilized for the park and recreation function. The idea
would be to turn the Building Department into the park and
recreation office, the Planning Department would be turned into a
meeting room and the Engineering room would be available for
storage. The offices on the east side of the building would be
available for storage. He indicated that his idea would be to
use the Council chambers for a community center for such things
as youth programming, training center for coaches, etc.
Chairman Anderson felt that the next step would be to meet with
the associations and the school district to get their ideas.
Commissioner Lindahl suggested that for the next meeting the pros
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and cons of establishing a park and recreation department be
listed so they can be presented to the associations.
Commissioner O'Toole suggested involving the Public works
Department in the meetings.
Commissioner O'Toole recommended that the Park and Recreation
Commission endorse the use of this building (City Hall) as a
center for the seniors, park and recreation, community events and
storage with renovation. The Commission concurred.
City Hall Park Complex #2 Use of Building, Discussion
Mr. Haas noted that Merle prochniak had earlier brought to the
Commission's attention who was going to operate the building at
the Field of Dreams. An option would be to have the senior
citizens operate it as they do in Fridley. He didn't need to
have a decision tonight, but it is something to be considered.
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Commissioner Grabowski felt that all of the associations should
decide how it is to be handled.
Mr. Haas also noted that Andover Baseball is looking for storage
space as they have their equipment stored in a member's garage at
this time. Mr. Haas will speak to Frank Stone regarding any
possible storage space at the Public Works Building.
Avalon Sketch Plan
Mr. Haas explained that the City Council is leaning towards doing
more PUDs in the rural area which will allow more green space in
a plat. He also noted that a final decision on this sketch plan
will not need to be made until the preliminary plat is presented
to the Commission.
With no further discussion on the sketch plan, the concensus was
to ask for cash in lieu of land.
Approve Revised 1995-96 Hockey Schedule
MOTION by Lindahl, seconded by Paulson to approve the revised
hockey schedule as presented.
Motion carried unanimously.
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Miscellaneous Reports
Mr. Haas explained that the City Council approved an
extension until April 19, 1996 for the fencing and irrigation at
the Field of Dreams. These items were not completed due to the
early cold weather.
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Commissioner O'Toole disputed the extension for Mickman'S. He
didn't think they handled this is a workmanlike manner.
Commissioner Grabowski questioned why the fencing wasn't
completed. He thought that the excuse of the weather was pretty
weak and penalties should be assessed. He noted that this
reflects poorly on the city.
Mr. Haas stated that he would speak to the City Engineer
regarding these matters and express the Park Board's frustration.
Mr. Haas reviewed the park dedication fund revenues and
expenditures noting that there was some omissions and errors in
what was provided to the Commission. He will have those
corrected.
It was noted that weekend tournaments need to be requested by the
end of January. Mr. Haas was requested to put a notice in the
paper.
Commissioner O'Toole asked that the city contact the seniors
regarding the meeting in January for the discussion on a Park and
Recreation Department.
MOTION by Paulson, seconded by O'Toole to adjourn. Motion
carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Vicki Volk
Acting Recording Secretary