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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 · (612) 755-5100
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION - NOVEMBER 7, 1996
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jim Lindahl on November 7,
1996, 7:35 p.m., at the Oak View Middle School, 15400 Hanson Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad (arrived at 8:04
p.m.), Al Grabowski, Jeff Kieffer, Dave
O'Toole
Roger Paulson
Park Coordinator, Todd Haas
Others
Commissioner absent:
Also present:
RESIDENT FORUM
Randv Redenpenninq, 14509 Yellowoine - presented a petition from parents
with children under age five to upgrade the Oak Bluff park. The
Commission accepted the petition, noting it will be considered when the
budget planning is done for 1997.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 3, 1996: Correct as written.
MOTION by Kieffer, Seconded by Grabowski, to approve the Minutes from
October 3. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Present (O'Toole), 2-Absent
(Blackstad,Paulson) vote.
TIMBER OAKS ESTATES/PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS
Mr. Haas stated the Commission had recommended cash in lieu of land for
this plat. Byron Westlund of Woodland Development came to the office
today and talked about the sidewalk along the south side of 139th Lane.
They will be responsible for that concrete sidewalk within their plat.
The funding source for that piece of sidewalk from the boundary of the
plat west to Palm Street will have to be decided by the City Council'.
The trail along Prairie Road and Bunker Lake Boulevard will be
bituminous.
The Commission wondered who would be responsible for the green space
between the sidewalk and the street. Mr. Haas stated it would be the
property owners. The Commission suggested the property owners be made
aware of that responsibility when, they purchase the lots.
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Kieffer,
for the Timber Oaks Estates development.
Absent (Blackstad, Paulson) vote.
to accept cash in lieu of land
Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-
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Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes. November 7, 1996
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OAK VIEW MIDDLE SCHOOL TRAIL/HANSON BOULEVARD DISCUSSIN/PROJECT 96-27
Mr. Haas explained this is an informational item for the Commission.
The Council has requested Staff to review the possibility of installing
a trail along Hanson Boulevard for the pedestrian traffic from the
neighborhoods south of City Hall to the middle school. Based on the
county requirements for the location of the trail, it appears it will be
located in the right field area of the softball field located directly
east of the hockey rink. There is a possibility a portion of the fence
may be relocated closer to home plate.
Chairperson Lindahl stated the City has a road between the City Hall and
Public Works that comes back to the park bordering the middle school
property. He suggested that be the location of the trail and possibly
extending it through Sunshine Park south to Pine Hills. That would not
impact the ball field. He was also concerned with who would be
responsible for the cost of moving the ball field fence. He expressed
frustration that the Park Commission continually gets requests to pay
for things that should have been anticipated in the planning.
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Commissioner Grabowski stated it depends on how much of the ball field
will be lost. If it is just a few feet, he did not have a problem. If
it is, for instance, 40 feet, he did not think another field should be
sacrificed. Another possibility would be to place the trail between the
ball fields and hockey rink directly north of the City Hall building.
Chairperson Lindahl stated the community school may want to utilize a
trail system between the middle school and elementary school for field
trips, etc. No action was taken on this item, but Mr. Haas stated he
would contact the community school about their ideas on a trail between
the two schools.
COON CREEK BIKEWAY/WALKWAY TRAIL, DISCUSSION/PROJECT 95-24
Mr. Haas suggested the Commissioners walk the proposed walkway trail
between Hanson Boulevard and Crosstown Boulevard along the north side of
Coon Creek. The landowners involved have been invited to a special Park
and Recreation Commission meeting on Wednesday, November 13, 1996, to
discuss the proposed trail.
Commissioner Grabowski suggested trees and/or shrubbery be planted along
the trail to provide a buffer. It also requires less maintenance than a
chain link fence. The Commission agreed to the proposed special meeting.
CITY HALL UPDATE/PROJECT 94-30/USAGE OF FIELDS
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Mr. Haas stated the small soccer field along Crosstown Boulevard is
being dug up for the installation of the heating system for the new City
Hall. He will attempt to get that area converted back into a soccer
field, though it probably would not be usable next year. Some
Commissioners thought there was a sprinkler system in that field. If
so, it should also be replaced.
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Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes -. November 7, 1996
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(Commissioner Blackstad arrived at this time, 8:04 p.m.)
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Pov's tournament at Sunshine Park - Commissioner Grabowski noted an
adult tournament sponsored by Pov's was held at Sunshine Park in
October. He expressed disappointment and frustration that application
to use Sunshine Park was not made until just before it took place even
though the event was scheduled months ahead, the event was not
supervised, the park was left a mess with beer cans and trash found all
over including on the fields, that metal spikes were used by the
players, and that drinking alcohol took place in the park against park
rules. He felt it is extremely important that there be supervision on
all future adult tournaments.
After discussing the problem and possible solutions, it was suggested
the application for adult tournaments be revised to include a larger
deposit to pay for the expense of having a sheriff or community service
officer on duty during the event. It should be a requirement that a
deputy be on the site during all adult tournaments. Mr. Haas stated he
will modify the application and bring it back at the next meeting.
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Trails project - Mr. Haas stated the installation of trails in the
various parks is completed, though he has not yet done the final
inspection.
Fencing and service road a t Sunshine Park - Commissioner Grabowski asked
whether the estimate for the 200 feet of fencing on the small ball
fields at Sunshine Park and the estimated cost of a service road on the
west side have been obtained. Mr. Haas stated he will check into that.
Summer program - Commissioner O'Toole asked that the item of running a
summer program in the parks be added to a future agenda. There was some
discussion in the past of hiring a park attendant, similar to a warming
house attendant, to check out basketballs and other equipment in the
parks during the summer. It would be free and would not be a structured
program. Mr. Haas stated he will talk to the Community School
representatives, then add this to an Agenda.
Basketball court in Creek View Crossing - Chairperson Lindahl stated
apparently some residents are unhappy about the size of the newly
enlarged basketball court in Creek View Crossing. They think it is not
big enough. Mr. Haas stated it is the size of a junior high court, but
apparently they were expecting a full-sized court. In the upgrading of
the court, all of the existing blacktop was removed and replaced. It is
now almost double the original size. The Commission thought there may
not be room to make the basketball court any larger. They also noted the
need to make clear to the residents their intentions when doing park
improvements.
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Hockey lights - Chairperson Lindahl stated he received a call from a
resident wanting lights in a park so he could set up hockey practice.
He informed the resident that the City receives few requests for hockey
practices and that there is plenty of ice time available.
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Kieffer, to adjourn.
a 6-Yes, I-Absent (Paulson) vote.
Motion carried on
The meeting was adjourned at 8:21 p.m.
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