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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 10, 1996 1'-\ ',- ./ o .::J o o CITY of ANDOVER Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda December 10,1996 Oak View Middle School 7:00 p.m. I. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes - November 26, 1996 3. Public Hearing Continued: Special Use Permit (96-22) - Non-conforming Home Occupation - 15785 Nightingale Street NW - Lawrence Cardinal Jr. 4. Public Hearing: Special Use Permit (SUP 96-23) - Non-conforming Home Occupation - 13503 Crooked Lake Boulevard NW - James and Kathleen Junker. 5. Public Hearing: Special Use Permit (SUP 96-24) - Repair Garage - 2384 136th Avenue NW - Andover Collision Center - Greg Lee. 6. Public Hearing: Amended Special Use Permit (SUP 96-25) - Detailing Operation (Repair Garage) - 13476 Hanson Boulevard NW - Russell Shoberg. 7. Public Hearing: Lot SplitlVariance (L.S. 96-10)- 140 Andover Boulevard NW- John and Kannen Mohlenkamp. 8. Public Hearing: Rezoning (REZ 96-04) - R-I, Single Family Rural to R-4, Single Family Urban - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Development Company. 9. Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Development Company. 10. Public Hearing:, Special Use Permit (SUP-96-26) - Area Identification Sign - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Development Company. II. Discussion - Relocation of Structure - 17051 Crosstown Boulevard NW - Denise Deziel. 12. Ordinance Review Continued: Ordinance No.4, Moving of Buildings Ordinance No.6, Regulating Mobile Home Parks Ordinance No. 11, Planning and Zoning Commission Ordinance No. 13, Sewer ServicelReserve Capacity Costs 13. Other Business 14. Adjournment () o o o o CITY of ANDOVER . 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - DECEMBER 10, 1996 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jay Squires on December 10, 1996, 7:04 p.m. at the Oak View Middle School, 15400 Hanson Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Maynard Apel, Lynette Barry, Jeffrey Luedtke, Randy Peek, Jerry Putnam (arrived at 7:08 p.m.), Lorna Wells None City Engineering, Todd Haas Planning Intern, John Hinzman City Planning, Jeff Johnson Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg Others Commissioners absent: Also present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES November 26, 1996: Page 6, second paragraph, change "R-4" to "R-1". MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Wells, to approve as noted. Motion carried on a 3-Yes (Squires, Peek, Wells), 3-Present (Apel, Barry, Luedtke), 1- Absent (Putnam) vote. PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - NON-CONFORMING HOME OCCUPATION - 15785 NIGHTINGALE STREET NW - LAWRENCE CARDINAL, JR. and PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - NON-CONFORMING HOME OCCUPATION - 13503 CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW - JAMES AND KATHLEEN JUNKER Both public hearings were continued per the direction of the City Council to suspend action on non-conforming home occupations until the ordinance relating to them is reviewed. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - REPAIR GARAGE - 2384 136TH AVENUE NW - ANDOVER COLLISION CENTER - GREG LEE 7:05 p.m. Mr. Hinzman reviewed the request of Greg Lee to operate an automobile collision repair facility, to be known as Andover Collision Center, in the vacated Superwash Car Wash site at 2384 136th Avenue NW, Lot 1, Block 2, Andover Commercial Park Addition. He noted the applicable ordinances and adj acent zoning and land use. Only minor structural changes will be made to the building. There is adequate parking on site. (Commissioner Putnam arrived at this time, 7:08 p.m.) () () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 2 " ,~ (Public Hearing: Special Use Permit/Repair Garage - 2384 l36th Avenue NW, Continued) Commissioner Wells asked about the floor drain. Mr. Hinzman stated an inspection of the interior of the building has not been conducted. Greq Lee - stated there is a floor drain to collect sludge, and he assumed it is better than for the standard auto body shop. There will be two other employees plus himself. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Luedtke, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:12 p.m. ~) Greq Lee. 7216 79th Avenue N. Brooklvn Park - stated it will be a body shop for collision repair. No detailing work, clean up or engine repair will be done. It is mainly insurance work. He didn't anticipate outside storage at this time. If there was to be any storage, it would be kept to a minimum and kept either inside or outside with a privacy fence. He assumed there would be a requirement that any outside storage would require screening. Mr. Lee explained the changes to the building will include making an access from the office to the shop area and perhaps knocking down one interior wall for more space inside. There will be no alterations to the outside of the building. All code requirements will be met. Mr. Hinzman stated a condition of the Special Use Permit would be that the building be inspected by the Fire Marshal and Building Official and all needed corrections be made before the Permit becomes valid. MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Barry, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:15 p.m. Commissioner Peek did not see this as a significant change of use, as it is auto related. His concern is the tendency of these types of businesses to leave cars parked outside. As he drives around the area, he sees that the provision not allowing cars to be parked outside is being violated on a frequent basis. Mr. Carlberg stated Staff will investigate that. Commissioner Wells was concerned with the floor drain. Mr. Carlberg stated all building and fire codes are required to be met. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Putnam, Resolution to the City Council with Motion carried unanimously. This will Council agenda. 7:17 p.m. to forward the Staff prepared a recommendation for approval. be on the January 7, 1997, City PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDED SPECIAL USE PERMIT DETAILING OPERATION (REPAIR GARAGE) - 13476 HANSON BOULEVARD NW - RUSSELL SHOBERG ~) 7:17 p.m. Mr. Hinzman reviewed Russell Shoberg's request for an Amended Special Use Permit to conduct an automobile detailing service at Andover Wheel and Frame Alignment on property owned by James E. Runke at 13476 Hanson Boulevard. The property is zoned Industrial. He noted the !~ 'J C) /~, I "-j () Cj Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 3 (Public Hearing: Special Use Permit/Detailing Operation - 13476 Hanson Boulevard NW, Continued) applicable ordinances and adjacent zoning and land use. Special Use Permits were granted for the construction and expansion of an automobile repair facility granted in 1985 and 1990. This proposal is to lease 570 square feet of the facility for a detailing business which would focus on the cleaning and polishing of vehicles. The building will be reinspected for fire and building codes. Parking is adequate. Staff is not aware of another automobile detailing business in that vicinity. MOTION by Barry, Seconded by Putnam, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:22 p.m. Russell Shoberq - did not anticipate working on race cars. The majority of his work will be with new car dealerships by cleaning the train-in cars. Detailing consists of cleaning and restoring the vehicle to a newer condition. It is not heavy-duty automobile activities. He is aware that no outside storage will be allowed and agreed with the stipulation. MOTION by Barry, Seconded by Wells, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:25 p.m. Commissioner Wells asked about the third condition Resolution requiring the applicant to secure a Generator's License from Anoka County. Mr. Hinzman protection. in the proposed Hazardous Waste stated that is a Mr. Shoberq - stated he does not use hazardous materials are biodegradable. The Commission condition "if necessary". materials. suggested All of his that be a Commissioner Wells wondered if the Permit will apply to the entire building or only the leased portion. Mr. Hinzman stated it will be for the leased portion of the building. Commissioner Wells stated the building is close to a residential area and felt beginning operations at 6 a.m. was too early. She would prefer it be opened at 7 p.m. Mr. Carlberg stated the hours of operation were requested by the applicant. Other Commissioners did not think the building was that close to the residential area, as Commercial Boulevard serves as a buffer. A woman in the audience noted the houses do back onto Commercial Boulevard, and none of them have fences. MOTION by Wells to forward to the City Council the Resolution granting the Permit with an adjustment to No.3, to add "if required", and No.6, change from 6 a.m. to 7 a.m., Monday through Friday. Motion dies for lack of a Second. MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Luedtke, to forward to the City Council the Resolution granting an Amended Special Use Permit with Item No. 3 amended to say, "That the applicant secure a Hazardous Waste Generator's License from Anoka County and provide the City proof of such license if one is required." Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Present (Wells) vote. This will be placed on the January 7, 1997, City Council agenda. 7:32 p.m. () () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 4 :J PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT/VARIANCE - 140 ANDOVER BOULEVARD NW - JOHN AND !CARMEN MOHLENKAMP 7:32 p.m. Mr. Hinzman reviewed the request of John and Karmen Mohlenkamp for a lot split and variance to split a 10-acre portion of a 17.2-acre parcel at 140 Andover Boulevard NW. The split portion would require a variance of 66.5 feet to the 300-foot minimum lot width at the front setback line. The property is zoned R-1, Single Family Rural. The portion of the lot south of Coon Creek to be split will be sold to Bunker LLC, then combined with adjacent holdings. Staff has determined that strict enforcement of the provisions of Section 6.02 would preclude the applicant reasonable use of the property and would create an unnecessary hardship not created by the property owner; therefore, u variance is warranted. Staff is recommending approval with conditions. This area was platted in the 1950s with many smaller lots, some as small as 90 feet. In the original plat, the lot was 330 feet wide; however, the northwest 100 feet was split off between 1972 and 1976. The applicants did not create the existing conditions of the lot. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Barry, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:40 p.m. There was no public testimony. o MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Luedtke, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:40 p.m. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Luedtke, recommending that the City Council approve the Resolution granting the lot split/variance as presented by Staff. DISCUSSION: Com~issioner Wells asked about the drain field and septic system situation. She suggested that be checked by the Building Official prior to final approval by the City Council. Mr. Carlberg stated that inspection will be done, but it is not listed as a condition. The other Commissioners did not see a need to include it as a condition. Motion carried unanimously. This will be placed on the January 7, 1997, City Council agenda. 7:43 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: FAMILY URBAN - COMPANY REZONING - R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL, TO R-4, SINGLE WOODLAND ESTATES - SECTION 22 - WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT 7: 43 p. m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the zoning request of Woodland Development Company to rezone 77.83 acres located west of the intersection of Crosstown Boulevard NW and Nightingale Street NW, subdivision to be known as Woodland Estates, from R-1 to R-4. He noted the applicable ordinances and criteria to be considered. This property was recently included in the Metropolitan Urban Service Area and is designated for the 1995-2000 time frame for development. The property to the south is zoned R-1 and is classified as Ag Preserve, meaning it cannot be developed until 8 years after the Ag Preserve is decertified. r " ''--~ Commissioner Peek wondered if this would constitute spot zoning. Carlberg explained in the planning for the development of the City, area was included because it is a logical extension of the Mr. this City u u Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 5 r ) (Public Hearing: Rezoning - Woodland Estates, Section 22, Continued) utilities. The City's park directly to the east is served with utilities. Also, the time frames for development of the various parcels has been agreed to by the City and the developers, and the agreement was that this property would be included in the 1995-2000 development time frame. He also reviewed the background of why this property was included in the recent MUSA expansion. Mr. Carlberg stated he spoke with District No. 11 representatives today regarding the developments that will be occurring in Andover in 1997. MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Putnam, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:50 p.m. Don Eveland, 14722 Crosstown Boulevard NW - was concerned with the drainage from the proposed plat. It may take a few years before it is known whether the drainage works or if there is going to be a problem. He wants assurance that if it doesn't work, it will be corrected and not at his expense. He has not had any flooding. There may be some standing water for a few days, but it is not a problem. He uses that land for grazing his cows. Secondly, he was concerned that there is no park going into the development. Why? There are 160 homes with no park. He questioned the safety of having the children cross Crosstown Boulevard. Or they will play in his fields, which would create a liability situation for him. He is not interested in encountering any lawsuits. ,', He has an electric fence and a barbed wire fence around the north side ~ of his field, which he does not intended to remove. There is an eight- year wait before his property can be developed following decertification of Ag Preserve. He has no plans for development at this time. Commissioner Wells stated she did not recall being told there was a barbed wire fence along the southern boundary of this property when they heard the request for this to be included in the MUSA. She wondered how the fencing should be addressed. Mr. Carlberg explained Mr. Eveland has a right to have the barbed wire and electric fence on his property, and there is nothing that requires it to be removed. It is outside the platted area and is being utilized in Mr. Eveland's farming practices. The City cannot require those fences to be removed. Also, when the property was considered for inclusion in the MUSA, the overall development plan of the City was considered. Whether or not there is fencing around the property is not a consideration. The drainage and parks issues raised by Mr. Eveland should be addressed in the next item on the proposed preliminary plat. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Putnam, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 7:56 p.m. , -, " ) Commissioner Barry wondered if a traffic study was done. Mr. Carlberg stated typically they are not done. The traffic issue at the intersection of Nightingale and Crosstown Boulevard will be discussed as a part of the preliminary plat. The City does look at existing roads and whether they can handle the proj ected development. Mr. Haas stated Crosstown Boulevard is a low volume county road. The additional traffic generated from this plat will not hurt that traffic system. The regulatory speed limit around the curve on Crosstown Blvd. is 45 mph. r-, \ _/ r , \_.J r , \- ) o o Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 6 (Public Hearing: Rezoning - Woodland Estates, Section 22, Continued) Commissioner Luedtke didn't necessarily agree with developing every parcel of land into small lots just because it is in the MUSA. It is an issue of safety of the occupants of the surrounding land, especially the people who live to the south of the new development. He felt it is a safety issue. Also, many people moved out here for the rural aspects, and such high density development just makes it another Coon Rapids or Anoka. Mr. Carlberg again explained the overall development plan and established Comprehensive Plan, plus the installation of utilities in anticipation of that projected development. The developer could choose to develop 2.5-acres lots, but the City does allow the urban development based on the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Apel stated he personally doesn't like the small lots either, but this property is included in the Comprehensive Plan for urban development. This is the process of that development, which will also pay for the utilities the City has already put in the ground. Commissioner Barry agreed with Commissioner Luedtke in that the area surrounding this proposal is rural. She is concerned with safety and the general welfare of the surrounding area, with the foot traffic going to the park and the schools. Commissioner Wells felt there is also an issue of safety with traffic coming around the curve on Crosstown Boulevard and the entrance to the Fire Station, as well as the children walking to and from the park and the schools. She was also concerned because she did not recall being made aware of the fact that the property to the south is in Ag Preserve when they considered including this parcel in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the history of the request of Mr. Laptuda to include this parcel in the MUSA and the properties that were traded to accommodate that request. The Comprehensive Plan, which prevails, has been approved and calls for this parcel to be served with municipal sewer and water. The rezoning is consistent with that Plan. The traffic issues should be addressed as a part of the preliminary plat. Chairperson Squires agreed with Mr. Carlberg in that the Comprehensive Plan does prevail, and some of these items should have been addressed when the request came in to include this land in the MUSA. This is consistent with both the Comprehensive Plan and the time frame of development. He initially had a concern with spot zoning, but he now recognizes that the schools and recreational fields are transitional zones from all the R-4 zones to the east and south. The schools and the recreational fields are sewered. Because of the institutional zones, he is comfortable that this request is consistent with the R-4 zoning of the area. MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Peek, to forward to the City Council for approval the ordinance amending Ordinance No.8, the rezoning of the parcel in the motion as created by Staff. Motion carried on as-Yes, 2- No (Barry, Luedtke) vote. This will be placed on the January 7, 1997, City Council agenda. 8:22 p.m. u () Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 7 /~ 'J PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - WOODLAND ESTATES - SECTION 22 - WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY 8: 22 p. m. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the proposed preliminary plat of Woodland Estates located in Section 22, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota, as being developed by Woodland Development Company. The plat consists of 163 single family urban residential lots. Variances are being requested for an existing driveway location onto Crosstown Boulevard, for the 330-foot separation between Nightingale Street NW and 150th Lane NW, for Lot 12, Block 10, minimum lot development, and Lot 13, Block 10, minimum lot width, depth and area requirements. The City is considering Lot 13, Block 10, as the proposed si te for a future well and pumphouse location. Mr. Carlberg also reviewed ten other comments of the Andover Review Committee which the Planning Commission discussed in great detail. The Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing the plat at their December 19, 1996, meeting; but their initial recommendation was to accept cash in lieu of land. CJ Commissioner Peek asked if variances are needed for the double frontage lots along Block 10. Mr. Carlberg stated lots are allowed to back onto county roads, but an additional 10 feet is required. Variances are not needed for those lots. All lots have been reviewed for buildability and lot lines have been moved to meet the buidability requirements. Commissioner Wells felt there is a significant amount of drainage which will affect the existing drainage. Her concern was water in basements. Bvron Westlund. Woodland Development - stated they are not impacting any wetlands. There is no standing water there now. Commissioner Peek asked if anyone knows of any plans by the county to widen Crosstown Boulevard to four lanes. Mr. Westlund stated the comments from the Anoka County Highway Department addressed that and they have provided the required right of way from the preliminary plat to accommodate that. Mr. Carlberg also stated when designing Sunshine Park, the future realignment of Crosstown Boulevard was taken into consideration. At that time, the realignment was proposed to change the curve more to the park side to straighten it out. He didn't believe the county has plans to make it four lanes through there. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Luedtke, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 8: 39 p. m. The Commission noted the concerns raised by Mr. Eveland during the last agenda item. / " ,~ Mr. Westlund - explained Mr. Laptuda and his wife own the entire parcel. They are selling it to Woodland Development but are retaining approximately one acre where they currently live. The Laptudas still own fee title to the property; and, as a result, are part of the platting process. They desire to leave the driveway the way it has been there for 60 years. The county understands that it can be left there with a permit but has suggested it be located internally. The platting procedure requires a variance to keep that driveway where it is located. u o Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 8 () (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates, Continued) It would be possible to allow Mr. Laptuda to retain the driveway, but require it to be relocated internally when the property changes hands. The proposal is the lots on which the outbuildings are located would not be marketed for four years. After that, the outbuildings would be removed and those lots sold. The buildings will be used to store agricultural equipment that Mr. Laptuda still has. Mr. Laotuda - stated there are no chickens in the chicken coop, and there are no plans for them in the future. The buildings will be demolished within four years. He just wants to be able to use the driveway out to Crosstown Boulevard which has always been there until he is no longer there. Mr. Westlund - questioned the minimum lot size being requested of the City for a well site. He felt a minimum lot size of 11,400 square feet would be acceptable, but not over that amount. Regarding parks, they had proposed a small park and trail system behind the houses through the plat; but the Park and Recreation Commission did not want them. They asked for cash in lieu of land instead. In the proposal, they have minimized the tree loss by custom grading, by not impacting the wetlands, and by installing retention ponds in open areas. Commissioner Peek noted there is no connection between l50th Avenue and Nightingale. c=) Mr. Westlund - stated they adjusted the plat per the county request to provide the second access further north. They have no control over that area outside of the plat, that is between 150th and Nightingale. Pete Raddika, Hakanson Anderson Assoc., Inc. - went into some detail regarding the drainage plan for the plat, including the three large retention ponds. The system drains to the south and west and discharges to the south. They feel their plans are very conservative, as they do not account for any percolation that will occur in that sand. The ponds will be dug 10 feet into the water table for additional storage and for the aesthetics of having standing water. Commissioner Wells asked what will prevent contamination of the water table and the water down stream. Mr. Raddika - stated the ponds are dug deep to have fresh water and to keep the weed growth and algae down. There will be collection of sediments and debris. Easements will be placed for the 100-year flood elevations and the City will have control over those areas. The property owners will not be allowed to alter the ponds. CJ Mr. Westlund - stated they can either have dry ponding or deep ponds with standing water. The deep ponds are more aesthetically pleasing and will be similar to those in other developments around the City. There will be no public access to the ponds. They are slowing down the rate at which the water drains to the southern property, but there will be more water draining over a longer period of time. The Coon Creek Watershed has given them a permit contingent on working with Mr. Eveland and obtaining a letter from him acknowledging the drainage proposal. Also; some of their lowest floor elevations will be readjusted and some rip rap placed around flared end sections. In response to a question by ~J .' '\ o :J u u Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 9 (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates, Continued) Commissioner Wells regarding maintaining the water table and water supply, Mr. Westlund stated these are not water quality sensitive areas but are sedimentation ponds for the development. Mr. Haas stated it doesn't matter whether the ponds are wet or dry, the runoff will still permeate into the ground and ground water. Dry ponds are a hardship for property owners to maintain. The City has approved ponding that goes below the water table, which are very attractive for the City. Ken Slvzuk. 15211 Niqhtinqale - met with Mr Westlund last week, but he still has a concern with the water coming off the plat that it will be in excess of what is there now. Once there are roof tops, hard surfaced streets and driveways and dense lawns, the permeation of the soil will be much less and the runoff will change considerably. He owns the property to the west and leases property from Mr. Eveland. If there is excess runoff to the southwest, the property will become spongy. If the City accepts the plat, who will be responsible if there are problems on his or Mr. Eveland's properties with excess drainage? The drainage is toward the creek, but not over land because the terrain doesn't allow it to go over land. It has to evaporate and go underground. The drainage will be slower but the volume is increased, and that needs to be looked at carefully. He was also concerned with how long it will take before the ponds are sealed off. Mr. Haas stated some cities have a problem to inspect and clean ponds every 10 to 15 years to prevent them from sealing off. Andover has not yet started that program, but that pond maintenance program is something the City will have to put into place. Don Eveland - stated there has never really been standing water there. It is a designated wetland, but it is dry. Again, he was concerned with who will fix the drainage problem if one should occur. Mr. Haas reviewed the procedure and design specifications for drainage, noting TKDA reviews all calculations submitted to the City. The runoff and design specifications are basically the call of the Coon Cree~ Watershed, which is very conservative; and they have requested the developer also receive acknowledgement from the neighboring property owners. The Commission asked if the developer would be willing to do further calculations on the affect the drainage will have on the Eveland and Slyzuk properties, the types of soils and what happens to the water once it is on the adjacent properties. Mr. Westlund - stated they designed the drainage for the 100-year flood as required. They are willing to obtain further information if the adjacent properties owners will give them the right to enter their land for that additional work. He felt that could be done during the winter before the construction of the project. MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Barry, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 9:28 p.m. Drainage: There was considerable Commission discussion on the items outlined by the Andover Review Committee. Everyone agreed the drainage issue is to be resolved with the developer doing additional work on the adjacent properties and working with those property owners to reach an understanding and agreement. () u Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 10 .'\ 'J (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates, Continued) Phasing - Mr. Westlund - stated there was a verbal agreement with the City and other developers to phase this over two years, so they asked to include one-half of the development in 1997 and the other half in 1998. Several weeks ago they were approached by Staff that it appears fewer developments will meet the December 31 deadline for preliminary plat approval, and they wondered if Woodland would consider developing this plat entirely next year. He indicated yes, but there is a meeting scheduled this Thursday of Staff and developers, plus a discussion will take place at the December 17 City Council meeting. The Commission agreed this item will be handled by Staff and the City Council. Nightingale Street NW and Crosstown Boulevard NW - Commissioner Putnam had a concern with safety and traffic on that intersection, as it is very busy now during the rush hours, which will be impacted greatly by another 160 homes. He was also concerned with children crossing the road to get to the park and schools. He'd be in favor of a T intersection there. Commissioner Barry felt that foresight should be used instead of always reacting after-the-fact with road construction. She called several other cities and found that many do a traffic study at the time of the plat, decide what is needed for roads to accommodate the development, then give those plans to the county to do the road construction in conjunction with the plat construction. Some are even c=J a joint venture between the city, county and developer. Mr. Haas noted the City took over possession of Nightingale and the easement from the county several years ago. All easement between 150th and Nightingale is owned by the City. He explained the reason for the 330-foot separation between Crosstown and 150th and outlined several options to minimize or eliminate the variance. One problem is the county is no longer interested in doing anything with that intersection of Crosstown Boulevard and Nightingale, so the possibility of a T intersection in the immediate future is negligible. Commission discussion was on differing scenarios of routing traffic to provide a safer intersection and still provide two outlets to the plat. The Commission recessed at 10:14; reconvened at 10:23 p.m. " '\ \..-J Mr. Haas outlined a scenario of rerouting 150th further north through the proposed lots 12 and 13 to give 320 feet between 150th and the centerline of Crosstown Boulevard, so a variance is still needed; but, the 330-foot requirement would be met once the curve is flattened. The lots would be reconfigured and the developer would not lose any lots, though the one lot would need to acquire property from wi thin the Nightingale right of way which is owned by the City. Also, the well site would still be chosen. The Commission suggested the City consider the eastern-most lot south of 150th for the well lot, but not add the triangular piece from wi thin the right of way. That extra property would not be needed for the City's well, plus it preserves the option for potentially constructing a T-intersection at Nightingale and Crosstown Boulevard in the future for safety purposes as the City grows. Mr. Haas stated that can be explored. Both the Commission and Mr. Westlund were agreeable to the proposal as outlined by Mr. Haas. '~J " \ U ,..~ v o u Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 11 (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates, Continued) Laptuda driveway accessing Crosstown Boulevard - After discussion, the Commission agreed to allow Laptudas' existing driveway to continue to access Crosstown Boulevard as long as they live there, as a car leaving the driveway once in awhile wasn't considered a danger or a safety hazard. Once the property changes hands, it would be required that the driveway would be rerouted to access an interior street. Also, the funds to relocate that driveway would be escrowed with this development and the future relocation to an interior road must be addressed in the plat itself. Mr. Haas felt that can be worked out through the Development Agreement. Outbuildings Mr. Carlberg stated the proposal for the accessory structures can be addressed in the Development Agreement. The Commission generally agreed to the proposal as presented by the developer to allow the accessory buildings to remain for four years, at which time they would be removed and that this would be addressed in the Development Agreement. ' Sidewalks - Mr. Westlund - explained the Park Board's decision to accept cash in lieu of land for this development. He would not be willing to install a trail because the City is already collecting $250 for each building permit to be put toward a trail system. If he were to construct a trail in addition, it would be a double charge to the residents. He's also noticed in other public hearings, the first things the residents want taken out is the sidewalks. He also wondered how much money is in the TIF fund and if those funds could be allocated to proj ects such as pedestrian crossings of busy streets. Mr. Haas explained the Park Board felt there were not enough residents to serve a park in this plat, plus there is Sunshine Park across the streetj but they proposed park land would be taken at the time some of the surrounding properties are developed. The intent would be to get some crossing to the south by 149th to enter Sunshine Park near the proposed picnic area and parking lot. The Commission's main concern was getting pedestrian traffic to the park and schools, plus the problem of how to get them across Crosstown Boulevard. It was noted bridges both over the road and under it are expensive, though they felt the Park Board should consider using some of the funding from this plat to be put toward some safe crossing in this location. Commissioner Barry also felt the entire picture needs to be considered relative to foot traffic, and possibly one main street designated as a collector street for pedestrians which could be constructed in the future. After discussion, the consensus of the Commission was that no sidewalks or walkways or parks will required of this plat. It was acknowledged that a trail is being proposed along the northern boundary of this plat, which will be considered when the property to the north is developed. The Commission also agreed there should be a trail system or sidewalk connection so people in the developments can get to recreational areas. Mr. Haas stated he will discuss the sidewalk issue again with the Andover Review Committee and the Park and Recreation Commission before this goes to the Council. (~ . "- (-.J Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 12 " '" <J (Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat - Woodland Estates, Continued) Extension of trunk sewer and watermain service - Commissioner Wells was concerned that the City have enough water supply to service the plat. Staff reviewed the City's water plan and noted provisions are being made to be sure there is adequate water supply for the new developments. This is an informational item only. Variances - With the proposed realignment of 150th, Staff agreed to review the plat again relative to the possibility of other variances. The two variances as listed in the Agenda material are no longer relevant. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Luedtke, to forward the Staff prepared Resolution on to the City Council with recommendation for approval with the following changes: Item No.1, change to, "The developer requests a variance from Ordinance 10, Section 9.02C for the existing driveway on Crosstown Boulevard NW on Lot 8, Block 10. This variance shall be for the period that Mr. Laptuda remains the owner of the property. Funds shall be escrowed with the City for relocating the driveway to access on to 150th Avenue at the time Mr. Laptuda no longer owns the property." Item 2, remain as is with the addition that the developer and Staff will work together to realign 150th Lane to the northern boundary of the ," property. Item No.3, delete in its entirety and insert that the \-J existing accessory structures are to remain for a period of no more than four years and shall be described in the Developer Agreement. Items 4, 5, 6 and 7 to remain as is. Motion carried unanimously. This will be on the January 7, 1997, City Council agenda. 11:12 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: WOODLAND ESTATES SPECIAL USE PERMIT - AREA IDENTIFICATION SIGN - SECTION 22 - WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY 11:12 p.m. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of Woodland Development Company for a Special Use Permit to erect a permanent monument on Lot 1, Block 10, Woodland Estates. The columns are outside of the sign area. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Luedtke, to open the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 11:15 p.m. There was no public testimony. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Wells, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. 11:15 p.m. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Wells, to forward the Staff prepared Resolution to the City Council with recommendation for approval. Motion carried unanimously. This will be placed on the January 7, 1996, City Council agenda. 11:17 p.m. . " \.-J ( ) __I .-\ ! J , , -- Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - December 10, 1996 Page 13 I - '~ \.._.1 DISCUSSION - RELOCATION OF STRUCTURE - 17051 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW _ DENISE DEZIEL Mr. Hinzman reviewed the request of Denise Deziel to move a 1,300 square-foot 1 1/2-story house onto a 2. 58-acre vacant lot at 17051 Crosstown Boulevard. An expansion is planned for the home once on site that would include an attached garage. Also, the barn on the parcel will be moved to the rear of the lot. The house is in Edina and has an estimated valuation of $100,000. The total estimated valuation for the structure with the addition and land will be between $150,000 and $200,000. MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Wells, to forward the Staff prepared Resolution to the City Council with recommendation for approval. Motion carried unanimously. This will be placed on the December 17, 1996, City Council agenda. ORDINANCE REVIEW CONTINUED: ORDINANCES 4, 6, 11 AND 13 MOTION by Peek, Seconded by Wells, to table Item No. 12. Motion carried unanimously. , , \____...1 OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Carlberg reviewed the discussion and directive of the City Council at the Special Meeting on December 4, 1996, regarding non-conforming home occupations. Commissioner Peek asked that whatever the Council decides to do with the ordinance, he would like the City Attorney's opinion on it. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Putnam, to adjourn. unanimously. Motion carried The meeting was adjourned at 11:28 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~~p~~L Recording Secretary / " '-.j