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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 13, 1996 , " \j '\ "'-.J ., . ~J u u CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda August 13, 1996 7:00 p.m. I. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes - July 23, 1996 3. Public Hearing: Amended Special Use Permit - Bulk Storage of Liquid Fuels - Bill's Superette - 14041 Round Lake Boulevard NW Rademacher Companies Inc. 4. Variance - Green Space RequirementJOffStreet Parking Setback- Bill's Superette - 14041 Round Lake Boulevard NW - Rademacher Companies. 5. Public Hearing: Special Use Permit - Car Wash in Shopping Center District - Bill's Superette ~ 14041 Round Lake Boulevard NW - Rademacher Companies Inc. 6. Public Hearing: Amend Ordinance No 10, the Platting and Subdividing Ordinance. 7. Sketch Plan - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Development Company. 8. Sketch Plan - Crown Pointe East Second - Section 25 - Ashford Development Corporation, Inc. 9. Other Business 10. Adjournment o ( '\ V \,J CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - AUGUST 13, 1996 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jay Squires on August 13, 1996, 7:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Maynard Apel, Lynnette Barry, Jeffrey Luedtke, Jerry Putnam, Lorna Wells Randy Peek City Engineering, Todd Haas City Planning, Jeff Johnson Community Development Director, Dave Carlber9 Others Commissioner absent: Also present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES July 23, 1996: Pg 7, 1st paragraph of Chesteron Commons Sketch PIau, 5th line, clarify that Comprehensive Plan does not propose senior housing or a golf course for this area whi~h was , , discussed during the draft, as it was removed from the ~ final plan. The Plan does talk about recreational uses and open spaces. Pg 8, 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence, add: They are proposing no alteration to the "DNR" wetland. Pg 8, last paragraph, second sentence, correct" 1991 MUSA designation" to "1995-2000 MUSA designation". MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Wells, to accept the Minutes with the changes recommended by Staff. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 2-Present (Squires, Luedtke), I-Absent (Peek) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDED SPECIAL USE PERMIT - BULK STORAGE OF LIQUI::J FUELS - BILL'S SUPERETTE - 14041 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW - RADEMACHER COMPANIES, INC. 7:04 p.m. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of Rademacher Companies, Inc., to install five below-ground storage tanks for bulk storage of diesel and unleaded gasoline at 14041 Round Lake Boulevard NW. The property is zoned SC, Shopping Center. The new tanks will comply with the new Federal regulations that become effective in 1998. They will also replace the five existing below-ground fuel tanks located on the north side of the building. Mr. Johnson noted the applicable ordinances and Commission options. , \ J Commissioner Barry wondered how close the nearest house is from the proposed location. Mr. Carlberg pointed out the location of the houses, noting the new tanks will be located further from any residential housing than those tanks in the current location. He also noted the next " / o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 2 J (Public Hearing: Amended Special Use Permit - Bulk Storage of Liquid Fuels - Bill's Superette, Continued) item deals with a variance from the green space requirement to allow vehicles to travel through that area. That variance is similar to one granted to G-Will Liquors to the immediate south of this location. Traffic will travel between the tanks and the islands. As proposed, the filling of the tanks will take place away from the fuel dispensing area and the traffic isle so there will be no conflict with the tankers. Chairperson Squires noted the Resolution and Staff report show three 20,000-gallon tanks, one 10,000-gallon tank, and one B,OOO-gallon tank. The fact sheet from the applicant shows three 20,000-gallon tanks, one 12,000-gallon tank, and one B,OOO-gallon tank. Joe Nemo, Rademacher Companies, stated the correct request is three 20,000-gallon tanks, one 12,000-gallon tank and one B,OOO-gallon tank. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Putnam, to open carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. public testimony. the public hearing. 7 : 14 p. m. There Motion was no MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Barry, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. 7:14 p.m. / The Commission liked the fact that the tanks would be upgraded to the new federal regulations and that the location will create a safer situation for dispensing fuel. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Luedtke, to forward to the City Council a recommendation for the approval of the Amended Special Use Permit as presented by Staff with the addition in Section 1 talking about regulations, add State and Federal requirements; change the 10,000- gallon tank to a 12,000-gallon tank. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1- Absent (Peek) vote. This will be placed on the September 3, 1996, City Council meeting agenda. 7:17 p.m. VARIANCE - GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT/OFF-STREET PARKING SETBACK - BILL'S SUPERETTE - 14041 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW - RADEMACHER COMPANIES, INC. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of Rademacher Companies, Inc., to vary from Ordinance No. B, Section B.OB, which requires all off-street parking facilities to be set back 20 feet from the front yard; and Section B.04 which requires a 20-foot landscaped yard along all streets. The request is to encroach in that setback by 15 feet to provide for an off-driveway dispensing area for fuel tankers to park while delivering fuel to the site. It will also alleviate traffic congestion arollnd the fuel pumps, provide an unobstructed service lane for traffic, and provide a safer environment in that area. He reviewed the applicable ordinances and Commission options. / Mr. Carlberg explained Staff will review the proposal for green space and landscaping during the commercial site plan process. He did not " / o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 3 (Variance - Green Space Requirement/Off-Street Parking Setback - Bill's Superette, Continued) feel there was a safety factor from the driving portion of Round Lake Boulevard, as there will still be five feet to the property line plus over 20 feet of ditch area to the travel lane on that road. He also felt the variance provides a much better plan by having the fueling tankers to the side and allowing traffic to continue to flow through the area. The Commission discussed the desire to have some signs placed in the fueling area so vehicles would not park there. They also wanted to be sure that any parking by the propane tank would not interfere with the fueling tanker operations. Joe Nemo, Rademacher Companies, stated the fueling area will be striped and no parking permitted. Chairperson Squires noted since a similar variance was granted for the property to the south, traffic would be very inconsistent without this variance. He felt it is very appropriate with the condition of signing for No Parking. Mr. Carlberg stated Staff will make sure the area is signed properly during the commercial site plan process. Terry Schander, Rademacher Companies, explained that parking for the / propane tank averages five minutes. Their fueling tankers normally come in the early mornings to avoid interfering with customers dispensing fuel, and the tanker takes only 20 to 25 minutes to unload. The vast majority of the sales for propane is for barbecue-type cylinders that many people hand carry to the tank. Occasionally there will be a motor home and a fuel tanker at the same time, so some jockeying in parking may be required. But there is plenty of room that he did not see a problem. The propane tank will be protected as it is now. They are not allowed to place the propane tank below ground. Mr. Carlberg stated during the commercial site plan review, they will use templates to look at traffic flow so there will be no conflict. Possibly the propane tank will have to be moved further away from the area. Chairperson Squires felt there should be an exclusive area created for the tankers where there is no potential for overflow parking. Commissioner Wells wanted to see the propane tank moved further away so there is no possibility of conflict with parking of a motor home with a semitrailer and a fuel tanker. MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Apel, to recommend the Resolution approving the variance of Rademacher Companies to Ordinance 8, Section 8.08 as drafted by Staff with the following changes: Second to last paragraph, "...approves the variance request of Rademacher Companies, Inc., on said property, with the following conditions:" Add conciition 1, "Add appropriate signage to indicate "No Parking" at the tank filling area and propane tank filling area. A sign for parking exclusive of those two operations only." Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (Peek) vote. This will be placed on the September 3,1996, City Council agenda. , '\ ,-..J o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 4 PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - CAR WASH IN SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT - BILL'S SUPERETTE - 14041 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW - RADEMACHER COMPANIES, INC. 7:34 p.m. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of Rademacher Companies, Inc., to construct a car wash at Bill's Superette. It would be located north of the building and would meet all setback requirements. He noted the applicable ordinances and criteria to be examined when considering Special Use Permits. Terry Schander, Rademacher Companies, explained there will be a dryer. They have not decided on the specific system. Commissioner Barry noted the problem of slippery streets in the winter from cars coming out of the car wash down Hanson Boulevard. Mr. Carlberg stated that is also a concern of Staff. Blowers or heated pads would help, and that will be reviewed during the commercial site plan review. He also explained the elimination of one of the curb cuts and relocating another one further east. There will be three entrances to the site, two from 140th Lane and one from Round Lake Boulevard. Commissioner Wells had a concern with the traffic patterns around the car wash, suggesting the possibility of an "out only" exit for the most eastern exit to 140th Lane. Mr. Carlberg felt it would be a safe!: situation by not restricting the direction of traffic on that eastern J exit, as it may be necessary for cars to enter there if traffic is backed up on 140th Lane blocking the entrance nearer to Round Lake Boulevard. Mr. Schander did not feel there would be stacking lines for the car wash, as the one they are considering has been tested to do 60 to 65 cars an hour. He too did not feel a one-way on the eastern entrance would work, that the proposal as shown works the best for the business. He didn't want to inconvenience customers by having them travel all the way around to the south side or to have to go back onto 140th and make the radius to come in. Commissioner Putnam raised the issue of noise and hours of operation because of the proximity to residents. Mr. Carlberg pointed out the City limited the hours of operation of the car wash at the SuperAmerica station on Bunker Lake and Round Lake Boulevard to 8 a.m to 9 p.m., seven days a week. Mr. Schander explained the car wash will be a single lane and self service with a conveyor that pulls the car through. It will be long enough to have 2 1/2 to 3 cars in the tunnel at one time. The tunnel will be long enough so the noise from the dryers and machines will not be transmitted to the neighboring properties. While the suggestion is t~ have a main bay of 42 feet, their's will be in excess of 70 feet to allow for dripping and to contain the equipment within the bay. He had no intention of having the car wash unattended or having the doors open. He would agree to having the doors automatically shut each day. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Barry, to open carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. public testimony. the public hearing. ~otion 7:50 p.m. There was no \ , '-J o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 5 J (Public Hearing: Special Use Permit/Car Wash/Bill's Superette, Cont.) MOTION by Barry, Seconded by Luedtke, to close the public hearing, Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. 7:50 p.m. MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Putnam, that we send to the City Council the recommended approval of the Resolution granting the Special Use Permit for the car wash as prepared by Staff word for word. DISCUSSION: Commissioner Apel felt the hours of operation issue in this particular situation is different enough and the technology is different enough that he would not be interested in limiting the hours of operation. That can be reviewed on an annual basis; and if after a year it is determined that the operation should be limited, it is simple to amend the Permit. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. This will be on the September 3, 1996, City Council agenda. 7:52 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: ORDINANCE AMEND ORDINANCE NO. 10, PLATTING AND SUBDIVIDING Mr. Carlberg asked that the item be tabled to the next meeting. If the material is not available for the next meeting, Staff would readvertise the public hearing. / MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Wells, to table the public hearing on Ordinance No. 10, the Platting and Subdividing Ordinance. (to the Augus~ 27, 1996, meeting) Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-Absent (Peek) vote. SKETCH PLAN - WOODLAND ESTATES - SECTION 22 - WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY Byron Westlund, Woodland Development Corporation, reviewed the sketch plan of the proposed development of Woodland Estates, which consists of 160 lots on 78 acres. The Laptudas wish to reside in their existing home on a one-acre lot, which will be located on the northeast portion of the proposed plat. The proposal would be that they will continue to use their on-site septic system and well with the understanding that they meet the 39,OOO-square feet. If something would go wrong with their septic system or well, they would hook up to the municipal sewer and water. The Laptudas have asked that the pole building be kept in place and they would lease it for three to four years. At the end of that term, the building would be removed. Because the plat will be phased, that area could be put in the second phase so the pole building does not encroach into the view of other people. J Mr. Westlund explained the Anoka County Highway Department has expressed concern with their northern exit to the plat. They are amenable to th2 County's suggestion to end that exit in a cul-de-sac and provide the second exit even further north which is now shown as a cul-de-sac. There is also some talk about revising the intersection of Nightingale and Crosstown to make ita T intersection. That is out of their control. It is a heavily wooded parcel, and they are making an effort . \ ; , \..J' u Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 6 " ) (Sketch Plan - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Develoment Company, Continued) to minimize the tree loss. Staff has asked them to show how the areas to the north, west and south can be subdivided, which they have now shown for an R-4 zoning. The lot sizes in the plat exceed the minimums, as the average lot size is 95 x 140 feet. Mr. Westlund stated there was discussion by Staff regarding an MSA road through the area. To address that, they pulled the soils maps to determine the feasibility of a road going further west out of their plat. To the west is primarily peat which is currently being farmed. Plus there is hugh significant wetland. They don't see a future connection of an MSA route through their plat, thinking it would be very difficult to do. It would also have a significant impact on the layout of the plat. Mr. Haas reviewed the designation of an MSA route to connect Round Lake and Crosstown Boulevards, the requirements of development abutting an MSA route and the reasons for such designations. It is now possible to float roadways through wetland areas or to dig out the peat. This is a very important road to consider at this sketch plan stage. There have been a few times that an MSA street was a part of a development, such as the Hidden Creek plat. Commissioner Apel raised the issue of the taking of private property for public use if the City would require an MSA road / through a development. Mr. Haas felt that an MSA route could be implemented easily on the north property line of this proposed plat. He'd like to go back to the Andover Review Committee to talk about this again and to further research the feasibility of an east-west MSA designation. The Commission felt this item is significant enough that they would like to see that information before making a decision on the sketch plan. The Commission also discussed the desire to have a trail system through the development to connect with Sunshine Park. There was some frustration that there is no updated comprehensive trail system for the City to use when considering trails in new developments. Mr. Weatlund then showed a proposed 20-foot wide trail system through back yards and street right of ways with a small tot lot in the center. His concern is that the trail would go somewhere once it comes to the edge of the plat. They will continue to work with the City on this issue. Mr. Carlberg stated if the intersection of Nightingale and Crosstown Boulevard is reconfigured, it would be a four-way intersection. At that time it would be a safer intersection to get people across to the City park system. Mr. Haas stated he will be meeting with representatives of Anoka County on their 2020 trails plan, which may incorporate a bikeway system through parts of Andover. \ J Mr. Carlberg then presented the Staff report on the details of the proposed development. The Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing the parks and trails issues. In addition, the City will be looking at another well location in this area to service the additional developments as called for in the Water Resources Management Plan. , "... ../' , I ) . _/ Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 7 (Sketch Plan - Woodland Estates - Section 22 - Woodland Develoment Company, Continued) MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Barry, to table this to the Review Committee for MUSA water storage facilities and for addressing the park or trail system, define the significant amount of trees and deal with the MSA road system. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (Peek) vote. SKETCH PLAN CROWN POINTE EAST SECOND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, INC. SECTION 25 ASHFORD Jerry Windschitl, Ashford Development Corporation, reviewed the sketch plan of his proposed plat of Crown Pointe East Second. The property is currently zoned R-l and will need to be rezoned to R-4. It consists of 70 single family lots. The road locations were predetermined by the Crown Pointe East plat. Sewer and water lines are on the property. There is an existing residence, and the owner of the house is intending to remain on the property. That lot has been sized to meet the requirements in setbacks and size and will be hooked up to sewer and water plus the existing well capped. The other structures on the site will be removed during the platting process. No variances are needed, but there is an existing variance that was issued when the City acquired right of way on prairie Road. There will be some overlap in the / drainage of this plat and Crown Pointe East, but there will be a new drainage plan that will have to be approved by the City and the LGU. This is the last remaining parcel in that area to be developed, and there is no contiguous property to develop. Commissioner Wells asked if a trail system was considered along the creek and then south along Prairie Road to Bunker Lake Boulevard. Mr_ Windschitl stated when the trail system was done years ago, the thought was to go north rather than east with that trail. There is no proposal to go east in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Carlberg stated there has been talk of a trail on the east side of Prairie Road along the Shadowbrook plat. The Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing this on August 15. Mr. Haas stated there is no easement along the creek on Crown Pointe East, which should have been done in order to have a connection between Prairie Road and the location of the proposed trail to the north. The Commission asked that in the future they be pr0vided with a small trails map and State Aid designation map to facilitate in planning as the plats come in. Commissioners Barry and Wells raised their concerns with developments will have on traffic and schools. Mr. highlighted the Staff comments on the sketch plan. further comments. the affect the Carlberg then There were no OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Carlberg reviewed the actions of the City Council at its July 16 and August 6 regular meetings. Also, Staff expects to have the Planning , , " / Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - August 13, 1996 Page 8 \ I (Other Business, Continued) Commission hold a public hearing on the amendments for home occupations at the August 27 meeting to make provisions for those businesses that operated prior to 1990. He also noted the stakes for the new City Hall building have been placed, and a Planning Intern has been hired and will begin on Monday. He reported the Sheriff's Department is working with the Snowmobile Task Force to establish a program for this winter. The Commission asked what happened to the externalities issues that they discussed with the City Council. Mr. Carlberg stated the Council has been updated on the progress made this year. Many of the items have been completed. He agreed to provide copies of the mission statement. goals and progress report to the Commissioners. Much of that will be incorporated in the next Comprehensive Plan. The process of updating that Plan should begin soon. The Commission asked about the status of the trail system and maps showing the proposed locations. Mr. Carlberg explained the status of the GIS system, which will be able to provide the desired maps. Also, the Park and Recreation Commission is in the process of reviewing the trails system to more accurately reflect the desired system. MOTION by Putnam, Seconded by Wells, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 6- I Yes, I-Absent (Peek) vote. The meeting adjourned at 9:07 p.m. Respectfully submitted, \~~~y~ Recording Secretary