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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 23, 1996 u (j ~ ~ 11.3I'1lp / \ ,~./ CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JANUARY 23, 1996 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jay Squires on January 23, 1996, 7:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Lynette Berry, Jeffrey Luedtke, Jerry Putnam, Lorna Wells Maynard Apel, Randy Peek Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas City Planning Director, David Carlberg Others Commissioners absent: Also present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES January 9, 1996: Page 1, first paragraph, delete "in front of". Sentence to read: built behind the existing barn, the barn exterior construction. Page 3, last word on page, second to last sentence, If, however, the house is will have to have similar :J delete "Regular". MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Putnam, to approve the Minutes as amended. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-absent (Apel, Peek) vote. PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED: MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - SEWER 7:03 p.m. Mr. Carlberg explained the proposed amendment to the Andover Comprehensive Plan for a sewer expansion of 1,315 buildable acres. It would cover a 10-year period, which would be divided into two phases of five-years each, the years 1995 through 2000 for the first phase, and the years 2000 to 2005 for the second phase. The zoning map shows the phase of about 650 buildable acres in each five-year time frame. The map is a guide that can be changed with future amendments. He explained there is still the issue of affordable life cycle housing. Because the City did not adopt the Livable Communities Act, affordable life cycle housing has to be incorporated into the Comprehensive Plan. The Council was told by Metropolitan Council representatives that the issue will not hinder the approval of this amendment, though it is an on-going issue that will continue to be discussed. The City has submitted the results of its on-site septic system study which was requested by the Metropolitan Council Staff, so that issue should be resolved. /- "- 'J Mr. Carlberg also explained that the intent would be to develop about 200 acres in each year of the two phases, so not all development will occur at once. Criteria will need to be established to determine which of the t200 acres will be slated for development each year. Criteria used in the past has been the ability to serve the parcel with utilities '- / , ) Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 23, 1996 Page 2 (Public Hearing: Major Amendment To Comprehensive Plan Sewer, Con tinued) and when the owner requested the property to be included in the MUSA. Consideration might also be given to the impact on externalities and consideration of other elements in the Comprehensive Plan. Just because a parcel is proposed for development within a specific time frame does not mean the owner must develop at that time. This allows for flexibility in planning and provides the ability for a property owner to develop after a certain time. The Commission asked about the impact on transportation and the road system. Mr. Carlberg explained the City did a major transportation study with Anoka County using the Metropolitan Council guidelines, which satisfied the Metropolitan Council that Andover's growth will not impact State Highway 10 before major improvements are made. Also, the City sends all development plans to the Anoka County Highway Department, so they are aware of the growth and can plan improvements to the road system as needed. The Anoka County 2010 Highway Plan is planned in phases, and signalization is added as the traffic meets warrants. Mr. Carlberg noted a letter received from Walter and Rosemary Laptuta's attorney requesting property described as S 1/2 of the SW 1/4 of Section 22, Township 32 North, Range 24 West, be included in the MUSA. Staff did not receive the letter until the proposed MUSA map was drawn up. That property has been proposed for the second phase of development between the years 2000 and 2005i however, the property owner is asking that it be incorporated into the MUSA as soon as possible. The property is contiguous to the current MUSA. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Putnam, to open the public hearing. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (Apel, Peek) vote. 7:28 p.m. Walter Laptuta. property owner - stated he has lived on the property for 60 years. His wife and he are getting older and builders have expressed an interest in his propertYi however, as soon as they found out when utilities were scheduled, they backed off. He would like to have this done as soon as possible. The property is generally high ground. He would retain some acreage for himself and continue to live on his homestead. He pumps his septic system every year and understands he would have to hook up to sanitary sewer within a specific time frame after the service becomes available. He has no problem with that. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Berry, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (Apel, Peek) vote. 7:32 p.m. / The Commission discussed a means of changing the schedule for the Laptuta property to the 1995 to 2000 phase of development. Mr. Carlberg stated it could be done with a swap of equal buildable land from the 2000 to 2005 phase. One suggestion of the Commission was to consider the phased development in the southeast corner of the City. with a phased development from west to east, possibly some of that land on the eastern edge could be moved to the second phase. There may also be other pieces of property on the perimeter of the proposed development , I , ) Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 23, 1996 Page 3 i (Public Hearing: Major Amendment To Comprehensive Plan Sewer, Continued) area that could be switched to the second development phase, such as that area immediately north of the proposed Shadowbrook plat. Prior to the Council meeting, the Commission suggested that the consulting firm TKDA review the map again to see if there is 80 acres that could be changed to the second development phase to help Mr. and Mrs. Laptuta. Commissioner Wells had a real concern about the impact on the schools with the development of several hundred homes per year in the City. She thought the City Council has to work at giving the school district some relief. Mr. Carlberg noted the Council has been working on the externalities issues and there have been discussions with school officials. The school district is doing a lot of planning and is trying to protect Andover Elementary to be sure Andover students will be going there. MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Putnam, that the P & Z forward onto the City Council for the 6th of February meeting this item with the addendum on the possibility of adding the 80 acres of the Laptuta property and subtracting or amending the map with the 80 acres from the next phase. Motion carried on as-Yes, 2-Absent (Apel, Peek) vote. This will be placed on the February 6, 1996, City Council agenda. I DISCUSSION - SKETCH PLAN - HUNTER'S HOLLOW - SECTION 9 - NOVAK FLECK Mr. Haas reviewed the sketch plan of the proposed Hunter's Hollow development which consists of 22 single family rural residential lots. The developer has explored the idea of developing as a PUD but has decided against it. Septic systems will not be allowed on fill areas, and he believed the City Council and Planning Commission will have to amend the ordinance to be compatible with changes made by the State. The Fire Department is concerned with 164th Lane, which is currently a dead end. Their recommendation, and the Andover Review Committee concurred, is to require the developer to extend a street between 164th Avenue and 164th Lane. The Fire Department would like to see that extension continue further north to the street proposed in the northwestern portion of the plat. Staff does not know where the general flood plain is, and poor soils through that area may make it unfeasible to construct a road through there. The developer is proposing to construct a center median at the entrance to Round lake Boulevard which would add to the aesthetics of the area. Public Works generally likes the idea, acknowledging that it will create additional maintenance to the City. Outlot A will need to be identified as a lot, though it is Staff's understanding that outlot will be sold to the property owners directly north of the outlot. The developers have also showed a proposed development on the three 10-acre parcels immediately south of the southeastern parcel as required by Ordinance 10. The street in the northwestern parcel will cross the ditch twice with some type of reinforced concrete culvert that will be sized accordingly. / / , . ) Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 23, 1996 Page 4 (Sketch Plan - Hunter's Hollow - Section 9 - Novak Fleck, Continued) The Commission noted a person could not get to the southern portion of the plat from the northern portion unless the connection is made because the parcels only touch on the one corner. John Bero. Loucks and Associates - stated they have done extensive soil testing on the site. They know where the water table and the lOO-year flood are, plus they have done extensive drainage calculations. An extension of a road from 164th Lane north would go through a flood plain. It also becomes an expensive road to build because no lots would front on it. He understands the Fire Department would like to have a road loop for health and safety reasons, but the temporary cul-de-sac is not unlike any other in town. They have done site perk tests and two different wetland delineations. Strangely enough, the only wetlands are in the ditch. There is not enough water moisture content in the sod fields to make them a wetland. The developer has agreed to do something different to make the subdivision more unique not only in dividing the entrance but in providing pathways for pedestrians over the culverts. They looked at a PUD development; but with the development and the size of homes being planned, it did not work. The developer and the builder are the same, and they are trying to keep a certain theme throughout the whole project site. The Commission was concerned that the new residents moving into the development know about the sod business and the trucks that will be using those residential streets. They also wanted to be sure the people there now can continue with their operation without problems even after other residents move in. Mr. Haas stated to avoid complaints, the thought has been to write into the Development Contract that the developer will agree to inform future property owners that the street going to Round Lake Boulevard will be used by commercial traffic. That is the only legal way the City can handle that problem. The City is responsible for maintenance of the road, though there will be load restrictions from the end of February through the middle of May. Generally the roads can handle that traffic during the summer. Th~ Comprehensi ve Plan shows a proposed trail system along Round Lake Boulevard; however, the Park and Recreation Commission is looking at trails only in the urban area at this time. Commission discussion was then on the proposed north-south connection between 164th Lane and the street in the northern portion of the plat. Mr. Berq - stated they spent several weeks determining the flood plain, so they now know the exact location. That connection would go through the flood plain, and there would be a potential for flooding over the road. There could also be a large amount of peat soil through there, which would make the road very costly to construct. It would also be a tremendous cost to make the road bed high enough so it would never flood. They have no problem constructing the road between 164th Avenue and 164th Lane, which is mostly high ground. Also, in proposing a future development for the adjacent property to the south, it was his view as an experienced developer that a horseshoe through it would , / Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 23, 1996 Page 5 , I (Sketch Plan - Hunter's Hollow - Section 9 - Novak Fleck, Continued) provide the best arrangement for developing that area. He didn't tie the two parcels together. To do so would create problems with storm water because of the different elevations and with the problem of dealing with different land owners. Mr. Berg also noted they will be making Outlot A a lot. The sod farmer is in the process of purchasing that parcel to continue his operation. Further Commission discussion noted that if the connection north of 164th Lane is not constructed, it is unlikely a connection will ever be made. It is likely that only one lot will develop to the east off the proposed cul-de-sac on the northern parcel. Mr. Berq - stated both of the easements now being used by the commercial sod operation will be voided, and the operation will then use the main city streets. The Commission suggested Staff do more research on the feasibility of that connection north of 164th Lane, as it appears it would be beneficial for the use of Outlot A and the sod farmer. There was agreement that the connection between 164th Avenue and 164th Lane should be constructed. This will be forwarded to the City Council for further review. / DISCUSSION - WALKWAYS I BIKEWAYS AND TRAILWAYS Mr. Haas reviewed the examples he provided the Commission as to where Staff thought sidewalks could have installed in the Woodland Terrace and Northglen Additions and where they would be possible in the proposed Shadowbrook development. The suggestion is to place sidewalks along one side of the higher volume collector streets of the subdivision to provide a safe walkway for internal pedestrian traffic and to funnel the internal traffic to the future bikeways and walkways. Sidewalks within the development would typically be funded and constructed by the developer. In addition, it has been suggested that new developments be charged a fee to fund the City's development of a bikeway/walkway system throughout the City. Commission discussion was that the platting ordinance should be amended to require sidewalks within new urban developments and that there would be the flexibility to look at each proposed subdivision to determine where the sidewalks should be located based on general guidelines. They generally felt the sidewalks should channel pedestrian traffic to the schools, parks, and commercial areas. On the other hand, the general characteristic of the area needs to be considered as not every collector street will need a sidewalk, and there may be other streets that need to have sidewalks. The safety and needs issues must be determined on a case-by-case basis. Mr. Haas thought language to that effect could be incorporated into the ordinance. The Commission also suggested that a maintenance program be established and funded, as sidewalks can become a real liability when they start to break up. I , ~ .r) Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 23, 1996 Page 6 (Discussion - walkways, Buikeways and Trai 1 ways, Continued) Discussion on the bikeway/walkway system was on whether or not the City can require a developer in the urban area to construct that walkway along the edge of the plat if it is in the comprehensive plan. Can a fee be charged and used for acquiring additional segments along property that has already been developed to complete the system and for maintenance? It would be another cost similar to park dedication. Another suggestion was to add a fee to the building permits for new construction specifically for bikeway/walkway development and maintenance. This would be paid with building permits from both the urban and rural areas of the City, as everyone in the City would benefit by the system. Mr. Haas stated he will bring these comments to the City Council for further discussion. OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Carlberg updated the Commission on the actions of the City Council on Planning Commission items at their January 16, 1996, meeting. MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Wells, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (Apel, Peek) vote. , / The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m. RespectfullJ[ s~, ~~Ch ,~L Recording Secretary