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CITY of ANDOVER
Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
January 14, 1997
Oak View Middle School
7:00 p.m. 1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes - December 10, 1996
3. Public Hearing: Rezoning (REZ 96-05) - R-1, Single
Family Rural to GR, General Recreation - Section 9 - Jeff
Leadens.
4. Public Hearing: Special Use Permit (SUP 96-27) - Golf
Driving Range and Putting Course - 2989 - 166th Lane NW
- JeffLeadens.
5. Ordinance Review Continued:
Ordinance No. 200, Moving of Buildings
Ordinance No. 201, Regulating Manufactured Home Parks
Ordinance No. 202, Planning and Zoning Commission
Ordinance No. 203, Sewer ServicelReserve Capacity Costs
Ordinance No. 204, Driveway Construction Standards
Ordinance No. 205, Minnesota State Building Code.
6. Other Business
7. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JANUARY 14, 1997
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jay Squires on January 14,
1997, 7:04 p.m. at the Oak View Middle School, 15400 Hanson Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Maynard Apel, Lynette Barry, Jeffrey Luedtke,
Randy Peek, Lorna Wells
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City Planning, Jeff Johnson
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 10, 1996: Correct as written.
MOTION by Luedtke, Seconded by Wells, approval as presented.
carried unanimously.
Motion
o PUBLIC HEARINGS: REZONING (R-l, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL, TO GR, GENERAL
RECREATION - SECTION 9) and SPECIAL USE PERMIT (GOLF DRIVING RANGE AND
PUTTING COURSE) 2989 166TH LANE NW - JEFF LEADENS
Mr. Johnson explained the applicant has revised his plans to incorporate
more land into the proposal; therefore, public hearing notices must be
mailed to other property owners. The items are tentatively scheduled
for the January 28, 1997, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
MOTION by Wells, Seconded by Luedtke, to table Items 3 and 4 to January
28 due to notification. Motion carried unanimously.
REVIEW ORDINANCES - ORDINANCE NO. 200, MOVING OF BUILDINGS
Mr. Johnson explained the proposal is to repeal Ordinance 4 and Section
4.11 of Ordinance 8, and Staff has drafted a new Ordinance 200 and an
amendment to Ordinance 8, Section 7.03, Special Uses. Special Use
Permits will now be required for homes to be moved onto residential
properties in the City. He then highlighted the sections of the proposed
Ordinance 200. A public hearing before the Planning Commission is
scheduled for January 28, 1997.
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Commissioner Peek asked if this only affects moving a building off a
person's property. Mr. Johnson stated no permit would be needed for a
building to be moved to another location on the same property as long as
setback requirements are needed, but a new building permit would be
needed if a foundation is added.
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Minutes - January 14, 1997
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(Review Ordinances - Ordinance No. 200, Moving of Buildings, Continued)
Commissioner Wells was concerned about the height of a building and the
safety of the moving equipment. She proposed the movers submit proof
that the equipment has been inspected recently. Mr. Johnson stated
other ordinance provisions regulate the height requirements. The movers
must be licensed by the state, so the safety questions are addressed by
the state. The other Commissions agreed it would not be necessary to
add further requirements for the movers.
The Commissioners were comfortable with the ordinance as proposed,
though the items under Section 3 must be corrected to be in numerical
order.
ORDINANCE REVIEW - ORDINANCE NO. 201, REGULATING MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS
Mr. Johnson explained the intent is to repeal Ordinance 6 and adopt the
redrafted Ordinance 201. The new ordinance is in line with those
ordinances of Ham Lake and Ramsey. He briefly reviewed the sections of
the ordinance, noting this only applies to manufactured home parks. If
a manufactured home is placed on a single family lot, the single family
lot regulations would apply.
) Commissioner Barry suggested the sentence in Section 4 be amended to
state, "The owner of the manufactured home park shall furnish a copy of
covenants, restrictions, and by-laws of the manufactured home park to
the City." The Commission agreed. There were no further comments.
ORDINANCE REVIEW - ORDINANCE 202, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Mr. Johnson explained Ordinance 11 would be repealed and replaced with
Ordinance 202. In reviewing the proposed ordinance, the following
comments and recommended changes were made:
Section 3, Membership and Composition: Change "shall consist of seven
members from the City" to "shall consist of seven residents from the
City". There was some question as to whether a provision on membership
should be that the member be an eligible voter. There was no consensus
for that change. Commissioner Wells wondered if consideration had been
given to having minor representation or student members, though they
would not vote. After discussion, the Commission noted that is
sometimes done for councils or school boards, but they were not aware of
such members serving on commissions. There was no consensus for that
idea.
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Section 4, Absences: The Commission discussed the issue of absences. A
concern raised by Commissioner Wells is when only two members show up
for a meeting and there are important items to consider, which happened
once last year. Possibly there should be some provision for the person
who will be absent to fax or mail their opinion on the items.
Commissioner Apel stated there is always that problem when dealing with
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(Review Ordinances - Ordinance No. 202, Planning and zoning Commission,
Continued)
appointed, basically volunteer, positions. He felt common sense must
prevail. Commissioners can contact City Staff now with their opinion on
any agenda item if they cannot attend a meeting. It doesn't have to be
made part of the ordinance.
It was then suggested that possibly a quorum should be required to
prevent the situation noted by Commissioner Wells. But in further
discussion, it was noted that there is very seldom less than a quorum
present and that attendance has not been a major problem. The consensus
was to amend the first line to "Three consecutive unexcused Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting absences..."
With that change,
determine whether
would be required.
they have resolved
with attendance.
Chairperson Squires suggested the Council be asked
there are problems such that alternative language
He has observed that where there have been problems,
themselves and that there is not an on-going problem
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Section 5, Officers, Meetings: Mr. Johnson stated as written the intent
would be that the Commission would make a recommendation for Chairperson
and Vice Chairperson, subject to City Council approval. There was
considerable discussion on this item, as Commissioners Apel, Peek and
Luedtke did not feel the Commission should be involved in that decision.
There was a concern that it could create factions, and they felt the
procedure of a recommendation by the Mayor has worked well. They
preferred staying with the current method of selection. Commissioners
Barry and Wells felt that a secret ballot could be taken to nominate the
Chair and Vice Chair, or some method used to provide input that would
not be confrontational.
Chairperson Squires leaned toward giving the Council total discretion
for the appointments; however, when this is presented to the Council, he
suggested Staff inform them of this discussion that a majority are in
favor of leaving the practice as is but there is some sentiment to
giving the Planning Commission some input. There were no further
comments on the proposed ordinance.
ORDINANCE REVIEW - ORDINANCE NO. 203, SEWER SERVICE/RESERVE CAPACITY
COSTS
Mr. Johnson explained the proposal is to repeal Ordinance No. 13 and
replace it with Ordinance No. 203. There are no major changes in the
new ordinance other than updating Section 4 relating to penalties. The
Building Official and City Engineer are comfortable with the ordinance
as proposed. The Commission discussed the SAC charges but recommended
no changes.
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ORDINANCE REVIEW - ORDINANCE 204, DRIVEWAY CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS
Mr. Johnson explained Ordinance 7 would be repealed and replaced with
Ordinance 204. The revision includes language from the Platting
ordinance about the lowest floor elevations.
Commissioner Peek asked if there was a definition of "hard surfaced
driveway". Mr. Johnson stated he would check the ordinance.
Commissioner Barry asked the reason for the three-foot separation
between the high water mark and the lowest level of the house. FHA
requires only a one-foot separation. Mr. Johnson felt the City falls in
line with what other cities are requiring. Commissioner Apel disputed
that, thinking Andover has one of the highest separation requirements.
No change was recommended.
Commissioner Wells suggested the garage apron be required to avoid a
drop from developing between the driveway and the garage. Mr. Johnson
stated hopefully the grading, drainage and erosion control plans are
reviewed so there are no problems. Commissioner Peek felt that is a
part of the building, not the driveway. No change was recommended.
Commissioner Wells asked about the suggestion to require grates over the
ends of culverts. Mr. Johnson stated the City Engineer would issue
J permits for culverts. After some discussion, Chairperson Squires stated
Section 5 provides the Building Official the discretion to determine
when a grate is necessary. He felt that determination should be left
wi th Staff and not dictated in the ordinance. Other Commissioners
agreed. No changes were recommended to the proposed ordinance.
ORDINANCE REVIEW - ORDINANCE NO. 205, MINNESOTA STATE BUILDING CODE
Mr. Johnson explained Ordinances
replaced with Ordinance 205. The
proposed Ordinance 205.
15 and 19 would be repealed and
Building Official has reviewed the
Commissioner Peek asked about the date of the Minnesota State Building
Code by which it must be referenced. Mr. Johnson stated he will check
that out and confer with the City Attorney. No corrections were made by
the Commission.
OTHER BUSINESS
Snowmobiles - Commissioner Wells complained about the lack of respect by
snowmobilers on her property and other private properties. Mr. Johnson
explained the Andover Sno-Dragons Snowmobile Club is working with the
Ci ty and Sheriff's Department, and they are also trying to provide
trails out of the City. He suggested she contact the Snowmobile Club if
there are further problems.
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Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - January 14, 1997
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(Other Business, Continued)
Council Update - Mr. Johnson reviewed the actions of the City Council at
the January 7, 1997, regular meeting.
MOTION by Barry, Seconded by Wells, to adj ourn.
unanimously.
Motion carried
The meeting was adjourned at 8:22 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
~lla A. Peach
Recording Secretary