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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION - FEBRUARY 6, 1997
MINUTES
A Regular Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Dave O'Toole on February 6, 1997, 7:50
p.m., at the Oak View Middle School, 15400 Hanson Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad, Al Grabowski,
Jeff Kieffer
Jim Lindahl
City Finance Director, Jean McGann
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
Parks Department, Kevin Starr
Park Coordinator, Todd Haas
Brian Barringer
Commissioner absent:
Also present:
(Prior to the regular meeting, members of the Park and Recreation
Commission held an informational meeting with residents regarding the
proposed Coon Creek Trail system.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 16, 1997: Correct as written.
MOTION by Kieffer, Seconded by Blackstad, to approve the Minutes.
Motion carried on a 5-Yes, I-Absent (Lindahl) vote.
CONCESSION STAND
Ms. McGann noted the revised copy of the concession agreement that
includes several changes. One change is the concession building is to
be cleaned by the concessionaire within 15 days of the closing of the
season. Also, there is an increased rental payment of $25 for three
categories of increased revenues, plus several wording clarifications.
The concessionaire has agreed to those changes. Chairperson 0' Toole
asked for a motion recommending approval of the agreement as presented.
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Kieffer, to so move. Motion carried on
a 5-Yes, I-Absent (Lindahl) vote.
FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1996
Ms. McGann reviewed the Park Dedication Contributions and the financial
statements for the Park Dedication Fund for the year 1996. Total
contributions received for parks was $38,760. With a carry forward from
1995, the total contributions remaining is $64,066.39. Those dollars
are included in the $194,341.71 cash remaining in the Park Dedication
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Regular Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1997
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(Financial Statements Through December 31, 1996, Continued)
Fund. She also explained that the General Fund budget has $18,700
specifically for Sunshine Park. Because of the high cost of irrigating
that complex, she felt the Commission should be looking at ways to
reduce those irrigation costs. She estimated the irrigation costs for
1996 were $30,000. Of that amount, $10,000 was allocated from the
contingency fund and the remainder from park dedication because it was
considered start-up costs for the park. Those expenses for 1997 must
come from the General Fund, not park dedication.
Mr. Starr felt the cost to irrigate Sunshine Park in 1997 will be even
more. With all the new sod and new plantings, they want to irrigate to
the level of one inch per week. Several Commissioners questioned the
$30,000 figure, as they were under the impression it was considerably
less. And if it is that much, there is quite a disparity between the
budget and projected costs. Some noted that figure alone would have
paid for an irrigation well had it been authorized at the beginning of
the Sunshine Park project. Ms. McGann stated she will double check the
irrigation costs for Sunshine Park for 1996 and bring that information
back to the Commission.
DISCUSS IRRIGATION WELL/IP96-9/SUNSHINE PARK
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Mr. Haas stated after the quotes were received on an irrigation well for
Sunshine Park, Staff decided to bring it back to the Commission for
further consideration. Besides the cost of the well, it will cost
$10,000 to $15,000 to prepare a wellhead protection plan, about $10,000
to $15,000 every ten years to pull and rehab the pump, motor and well,
plus about $2,000 per year operating costs. There would also be other
expenses associated with the mechanical room in the concessions building
to convert the irrigation system from the municipal well to the
irrigation well.
Commissioner Grabowski calculated the well would pay for itself in three
to four years. Mr. Erickson explained because it is one Ci ty fund
paying another City fund, it is a question of economics. Mr. Starr
stated for the next meeting he will have the calculations of water flow
from each irrigation head for the year so an accurate estimate can be
made on irrigation costs for Sunshine Park. Mr. Haas thought that some
zones may not need to be irrigated as much as the fields themselves.
Commissioner Anderson noted one of the concerns with using the municipal
system is the watering bans.
The Commission felt more accurate information is needed on the cost of
irrigating the park with the municipal water system before a decision
can be made on the construction of a separate irrigation well. Mr.
Erickson suggested the possibility of charging a specific maintenance
rate for park irrigation. It was agreed that Staff will prepare and
bring back a more detailed cost comparison of irrigating the park using
the municipal system versus a separate irrigation well.
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Regular Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1997
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APPROVE 1997 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET
Mr. Haas explained the items listed include the pond construction and
grading for Strootman Park. That was budgeted in 1995 but was not done,
and $2,000 was carried over to 1996 and then to 1997. The Commission
asked Mr. Starr if the Parks Department could do the project and what he
thought it would cost.
Mr. Starr stated he was not involved in the Capital Improvements Budget
for this year, but the Parks Department does not have the correct
equipment to do something that deep. It would look nice to have a
standing water pond in that park, however. Right now it is rather
unsightly.
The Commission noted nothing is budgeted for trees and shrubs for the
parks in general. After further discussion it was agreed to accept the
budget as proposed with the understanding that some revisions could be
made in the future. (A revision was made later in the meeting, See Page
4 of these Minutes, Discuss 1997 Park Dedication Expenditures.)
MOTION by Grabowski, Seconded by Kieffer, to accept the 1997 Park
Capital Improvement Budget as submitted. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 1-
Absent (Lindahl) vote.
/ DISCUSS 1997 PARK DEDICATION EXPENDITURES
Mr. Haas noted the big project is the estimated $200,000 for the Coon
Creek Trail. If the DNR grant is accepted, the proj ect must be
completed and funds expended in 1996. Ms. McGann stated there are no
TIF funds available for the trail proj ect at this time. It is
anticipated that funds will be available in several years as the
commercial property is sold in the Commercial Park. The City is still
collecting a trail fee with each building permit, but that money is
being escrowed until the issue is resolved by the courts. It is also
anticipated that approximately $100,000 will be received in park
dedication funds in 1997 from the various developments. An option would
be to pay for the City's portion of the Coon Creek Trail entirely out of
Park Dedication Funds now, with the understanding that park dedication
would be reimbursed by TIF funds once they are available.
Mr. Erickson stated about $50,000 to $60,000 a year is accumulating in
the trail fund. The idea behind that fund was to construct those
portions of the trail through already developed areas that are needed to
connect the trail. Also, based on tonight's meeting with the residents,
Staff will look at the option of constructing the Coon Creek trail
closer to the creek.
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The Commission noted the plans for the Coon Creek Trail have been in
place for years, but there are also other imminent proj ects being
considered such as Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition for which the Lions
have given a sizeable donation, the trail along Bunker Lake Boulevard in
Shadowbrook, the trail in Woodland Estates and along Crosstown Boulevard
and the improvements still desired in Sunshine Park.
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Regular Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1997
Page 4
(Discuss 1997 Park Dedication Expenditures, Continued)
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Blackstad, to recommend the Commission
propose to spend up to $200,000 this year using Park Dedication Funds
for the construction of the Coon Creek Trail to get matching funding
from the DNR. It would be on a loan basis assuming there is a commitment
from the City Council to repay those funds with TIF funds when they are
available. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, I-Absent (Lindahl) vote.
Discussion continued on the other proposed projects. Mr. Haas stated
they can define the list further for the next meeting. The Commission
noted the itemized list from Mr. Starr for improvements in Sunshine Park
for an estimated cost of $15,565. The general feeling at this time was
that the funding allocated for Strootman' s pond from the Capital
Improvements budget should be reallocated to Sunshine Park. That $5,900
plus another $10,000 from Park Dedication would complete the items on
the list. Mr. Starr stated the goal is to get Sunshine Park looking
nice for the big tournaments that are scheduled. There is about a six-
to eight-week delivery on some items.
MOTION by Blackstad, Seconded by Kieffer, to amend the Capital
Improvements Budget, take $3,900 from Strootman park and $2,00 from
unexpended 1996 Park Capital Improvements and add another $10,000 from
Park Dedication, use that $15,900 for the Sunshine Park list of
improvements. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, I-Absent (Lindahl) vote.
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DISCUSS PARKING LOT LIGHTING/SUNSHINE PARK PARKING LOT
Mr. Haas explained the ordinance indicates lighting requirements for
public uses. Technically, the parking lot at Sunshine Park is in
violation of the ordinance. The Commission noted that would be a
significant expense which has not been included in any budget. They
asked for an estimated cost of lighting that parking lot. The intent
would be to have some decorative lighting to provide the minimal
lighting needs. Mr. Haas stated he will talk with the contractor who is
doing the plans for the City Hall parking lot lights and bring back an
estimated cost.
DISCUSS BIKEWAY TRAIL FUNDING
Mr. Haas stated at this time the City does not have a set policy on new
developments as to who is responsible for the costs of trails. In the
past each development has had a different scenario as to what the City
and what the developer pays for. Staff feels a policy should be in
place so all developers are treated fairly and consistently. A
suggestion is if the trail is included in the Comprehensive Plan, it
should be included in the development with the developer paying for the
entire cost.
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The Commission agreed with the original idea that the trail fees being
collected with building permits should be put toward the development of
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Regular Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1997
Page 5
(Discuss Bikeway Trail Funding, Continued)
those portions of the trail through existing developments that are
needed to connect the system. Anything within the development should be
paid for by the developer. They asked that Staff prepare a policy for
their consideration.
The Commission also felt that this item should be discussed with the
City Council. Mr. Haas stated he will ask the Council to set a special
meeting to meet with the Park and Recreation Commission to discuss this
item as well as the Coon Creek Trail project.
DISCUSS 1997 CDBG FUNDING EXPENDITURES
Mr. Haas noted an idea to use the 1997 CDBG funds allocated for
handicapped accessibility would be to extend a walkway from the
concession stand in Sunshine Park to the T-Ball fields on the south end.
Mr. Starr recommended the trail be la-feet wide, which is the standard
for multiple use trails, so it will tie into the trails that will
ultimately be constructed throughout the complex. Would the trail dip in
the low area or does the Commission prefer to have a culvert through
there? The Commission felt that should be determined during the design
stage.
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Blackstad, to use the $6,000 CDBG
funding to extend a walkway from the concession stand to the T-Ball
fields on the south end of Sunshine Park. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 1-
Absent (Lindahl) vote.
CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
Non-profit organization tournament application - Commissioner Grabowski
stated at the present time any non-profit organization from outside the
City can request to use the Andover fields for a tournament at no
charge. He felt a fee should be charged. The Commission asked Mr. Haas
to update the application form for the Commission's review.
MOTION by Blackstad, Seconded by Kieffer, to adjourn. Motion carried on
a 5-Yes, 1-Absent (Lindahl) vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary