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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION - APRIL 17, 1997
MINUTES
A Regular Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Dave 0' Toole on April 17, 1997, 7: 33
p.m., at The Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad, Al Grabowski,
Jeff Kieffer, Jim Lindahl
Brian Barringer
Park Coordinator, Todd Haas
Others
Commissioner absent:
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
April 3, 1997: Page 2, 4th paragraph, 5th line, correct "$7,000 to
$8,000..."
Page 3, Chairman's Report, Gutters for C0ncession Building, change
"Commissioner Grabowski" to "Mr. Starr".
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Lindahl, to approve with those
corrections. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (Barringer) vote.
ECHO HILLS 2ND ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT
MOTION by Kieffer, Seconded by Blackstad, to ask for cash in lieu of
land for Echo Hills 2nd Addition. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, I-Absent
(Barringer) vote.
HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH ADDITION PARK DISCUSSION
Mr. Haas reviewed the latest sketch on the layout of the ball field in
the Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition. This layout eliminates the
safety issue of parking along Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Mrs. Lvnda Levin, 13800 Svcamore - had a problem with the new proposal,
as the playground equipment is only 10 feet from their lot line. Their
lot line is only 50 feet wide at that point, and this will create
congestion and people loitering around. She did not believe in putting
up trespassing signs nor would she like to fence their yard, but she was
afraid of their things just disappearing. She would be afraid to let
their toddler outside. She also felt it will lower their property value
because of the parking lot next door, the playground equipment and
congestion with people on home plate, noise and litter. Chairperson
O'Toole explained the home plate was moved to prevent a safety problem
along Bunker Lake Boulevard. If home plate were moved to the north, it
would mean even more people going across that entire area.
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(Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition Park Discussion, Continued)
Kim Savaria. 13820 Svcamore - felt that there would be no safety problem
on Bunker Lake Boulevard. Most parents would not stop there to drop off
their children, plus no parking signs can be installed just as was done
along Hidden Creek park. Also, a fence could be put up to eliminate
access from the street. She also questioned whether there really is a
need for another ball field. Is it logical to place a ball field along
the railroad track? Couldn't that area be used for soccer, basketball
or an enlarged play area? She also had a concern with the 10-foot path
along the ball field.
Sue Richardson. 13825 Svcamore - stated along the other lots there are
trees to separate the park from the lots. Along their properties there
is nothing; it is right in their back yard. It is a nuisance and they
are asking that the field be moved down or made smaller.
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The Commissioners explained the park was taken for the specific purpose
of constructing a ball field. The number one request the Commission
receives is the need for more ball fields. The parking lot is being
developed so people will not be parking in front of their houses. The
playground equipment is located near home plate, because parents want to
be able to watch their younger children at the playground while also
watching their child play ball. The safety of the children is their-
primary concern. It has also been proven that parks result in the
appreciation of property values of surrounding lots. Also, most of the
activity during the ball season generally runs during May and June only.
Mr. Haas stated the exact location of the playground equipment has not
yet been done to scale. It is possible to move it somewhat. He also
felt that the developer may be willing to work with the City to
transplant trees to this area which could be placed between the lot
lines and the park as a natural border. The Commission agreed to try to
place a natural barrier along Lots 1, 2 and 3.
Joel Levin. 13800 Svcamore - asked that the ball field be moved west as
much as possible and the playground equipment moved away from Lot 1 as
much as possible. The Commission and Mr. Haas agreed. Mr. Haas stated
he would be willing to meet with the residents on site when it is
staked. The Commission also suggested the residents may want to "Adopt-
a-Park" to keep the area clean, and it was suggested the residents may
want to be involved in choosing the playground equipment. Those present
stated they would like to be involved in that process.
No further action was taken by the Commission.
USE OF SUNSHINE PARK/COMMUNITY SCHOOL SUMMER ACTIVITIES
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The Commission discussed the request of Anoka-Hennepin Summer Community
School to use the Concession Building at Sunshine Park, Monday through
Thursday, 8:55 to 12:15 p.m., June 16 through July 25, 1997.
Commissioner Grabowski was concerned that there be supervision to
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(Use of Sunshine Park/Community School Summer Activities, Continued)
prevent vandalism or accidents if children wander into parts of the
building they should not be in. Mr. Haas noted the program that will be
run at Sunshine Park will be supervised by a teacher, not run totally by
older teens.
The Commission then agreed that permission would be granted with the
stipulation that there would be adult supervision. Also, a checklist of
things to do or check on when opening and closing the building should be
prepared, to include such things as checking on doors to be closed and
locked, checking on lights, etc. Mr. Haas stated this can be done on a
trial basis; and if problems arise, Fran Megarry of the Community School
can be invited to a meeting to discuss it.
MOTION by Blackstad, Seconded by Lindahl, approving the issuance of the
key while expressing that we have some concerns over the access to the
building, that they would have to monitor it, that the person running
the program is a teacher and that a checklist be provided for the
opening and closing of the building. Motion carried on a 6-Yes, 1-
Absent (Barringer) vote.
SUNSHINE PARK SERVICE DRIVE DISCUSSION
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Commissioner Grabowski stated the concessioner is trying to keep all
deliveries down to three per week, which wj.ll be done at times when
games are not being played to avoid congestion. The Parks Department
has put up the barricades so people do not drive up to the building.
There is some concern with people driving around the barricades and
damaging the irrigation sprinkler heads. He has told the coaches of the
Andover Athletic Association that they cannot drive up to the building
except for deliveries. That message has also been relayed to the Andover
Baseball Association. He met with the Staff engineers, and he would
rather not see an ag lime and Class 5 road because it can wash out so
easily. With the limited deliveries to the Concession Building this
year, he preferred to wait to construct the road when the funds are
available to complete it with blacktop. The Commission generally
agreed.
Discussion was on the need for a turnaround for the delivery and City
vehicles. Mr. Haas felt that something could be coordinated with the
walkway/trails project. The Commission asked Staff to look at those
options and bring back a recommendation for the next meeting.
CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT
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Field requests Commissioner Blackstad stated he talked to a
representative of the Lord of Life Church who requested the use of four
fields on Friday evenings. It has been agreed to schedule the fields at
Rose Park, Iris, Hidden Creek and Terrace Park. Staff has already added
that to the schedule. The Commission concurred, though it was noted
there may be a conflict with park-and-ride traffic at Iris. It was
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(Chairperson's Report, Continued)
suggested during the ball season, the park be signed to require those
cars to leave by 5:00 on Friday evenings. Mr. Haas stated he will talk
with the Public Works Superintendent about it.
Red Oaks East - The Commissioners met at Red Oaks East park prior to
this evening's meeting. They noticed a lot of kids playing there, but
there has also been some vandalism and trash. A suggestion was to plant
natural grasses and leave the area natural. No specific direction was
given at this time.
Freezer in the Concessions Building - Mr. Haas stated the old freezer is
still there, but it has to be removed. He will put the item on the next
Council agenda to obtain bids for a new freezer and to have the old one
removed.
Recycling area The Commission noted the recycling area is very
unsightly. Mr. Haas noted that area will decrease in size with the
construction of the new Public Works building. The Commission suggested
the building be turned so people cannot look inside from the park road.
Mr. Haas stated he will forward that recommendation to the Public Works
Superintendent.
) MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Grabowski, to adj ourn.
on a 6-Yes, I-Absent (Barringer) vote.
Motion carried
The meeting adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
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Recording Secretary
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