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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION - MAY 1, 1997
MINUTES
A Regular Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Dave O'Toole on May 1, 1997, 7:35 p.m.,
at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Commissioners absent: .
Also present:
Tom Anderson, Brian Barringer, Jim Lindahl
Dave Blackstad, Al Grabowski, Jeff Kieffer
Parks Department, Kevin Starr
Park Coordinator, Todd Haas
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Robert Zdenek. Andover Invaders Soccer Club - received the approved City
of Andover soccer schedule and was very concerned, since they have not-
yet received the summer soccer schedule for games from the state. That
schedule should be made available this coming Sunday. When the
scheduling of soccer fields was discussed at a previous Park Board
meeting, he understood that the soccer clubs were to work together to
schedule the fields. . Now he finds out that the Anoka soccer club is
scheduled on the Tower field for every night of the week. He noted the
incident of coming to Tower field with his teams last Sunday evening
only to find out that the Anoka club has been assigned to use it.
Mr. Haas explained he received a copy of the practice schedule that he
understood was agreed to by all three clubs. That is what the Park
Board approved. That practice schedule will only be in place until the
game fields are allocated by the soccer clubs themselves. The Anoka
club asked him for another practice field, and he assigned the Tower
field because the schedule didn't show anyone using it for Sunday
evenings. Chairperson O'Toole understood that the use of the fields for
games and practice was to be scheduled by the three clubs. Therefore,
if additional practice fields are needed, he felt the proper direction
would be to go to the other soccer clubs before coming to City Hall.
Mr. Zdenek was concerned that the Anoka club first asked for one under-
ten field, but now they have asked for a full-sized field. He was very'
willing to work with the Anoka club to schedule an under-ten game field
as originally requested. His question was whether those soccer
associations that have been in the City, that have volunteered hours to
lay sod, that spend hours voluntarily striping the fields, and that
provide nets for the. fields have any priority over the use of the
fields. Their two clubs have the time and dollars invested in the
community; whereas the Anoka club does not. He was also concerned that
the fields be schedule such that they are not overused and the sod
destroyed. Just because a field is not being used a particular evening
doesn't mean that it is available for use. Mr. Zdenek went on that he
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and another gentleman called the City of Anoka about the availability of
soccer fields for their games. At first they were told there are fields
available; but as soon as they said they were from Andover, the position
changed to not having any fields available. He felt that there are
fields that would be available in the City of Anoka for Anoka soccer.
Mr. Zdenek stated they will have the use of the soccer fields at the
school but on a limited basis, plus he had to sign an agreement that
their club would replace the sod if it was destroyed during the summer
games. Given everything that the Andover Invaders and North Metro
Soccer clubs have given back to the City over the years, Mr. Zdenek
suggested the Anoka club be assigned the Fox Meadows field, an under-ten
field which they had originally requested; but they would be required to
provide nets and stripe it just as the other two clubs have been doing.
The Commission expressed gratitude for all of the volunteer efforts by
the soccer associations over the years. They suggested the Andover
Invaders and North Metro Soccer schedule the field use for games once
the state schedules are received, providing fields for the Anoka club as
well. The Commission's commitment to the An0ka club was to try to fit
them in as fields are available. They generally agreed with Mr.
Zdenek's proposal of assigning the field at Fox Meadows to the Anoka
/ club with the expectation that they will provide the same volunteer
services as the other two associations do. Mr. Starr noted the
importance of letting the fields rest to allow for maintenance and to
keep the turf from being over used.
Mr. Haas again noted the existing schedule is for practice only. That
will change once the game schedule is received from the associations.
Mr. Zdenek agreed to move his two teams away from the Tower field for
practice and to continue to work with Mr. Starr to help were needed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
April 17, 1997: Correct as written.
MOTION by Lindahl, Seconded by Anderson, to approve as written. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, 3-Absent (Blackstad, Grabowski, Kieffer) vote.
NIGHTINGALE PRESERVE PRELIMINARY PLAT
The Commission noted it has been their philosophy not to accept park
land in the rural developments, plus the City Hall park complex is
within a mile of this area. They also emphasized that the open space
areas in Planned Unit Developments have not been considered part of the
park dedication in previous plats.
MOTION by Anderson, Seconded by Lindahl, to accept cash in lieu of land
for the Nightingale Preserve preliminary plat. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, 3-Absent (Blackstad, Grabowski, Kieffer) vote.
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HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH ADDITION PARK DISCUSSION
Mr. Haas stated the property owners abuttin~ the park in the Hills of
Bunker Lake 5th Addition have asked to address the City Council with.
their concerns on the proposed layout of the ball field and the location
of the play equipment. He suggested the Park Board meet jointly with the
City Council regarding this issue, plus several other items that remain
from the previous joint meeting.
The Commissioners did not feel there was a need to meet jointly with the
City Council on this issue. They noted that the most recent layout is
the third or fourth one and that Public Works and the play equipment
designers raised serious safety concerns with the layout that is favored
by the residents. Chairperson O'Toole believed the latest layout is the
second best choice, and the one favored by the residents is the worst.
It was also noted that the Commission agreed to work with the residents
to plant trees as a buffer and to move the home plate and playground
equipment as far from the property lines as possible. The Commission
agreed to let their recommendation stand.
After further discussion, it was agreed that Mr. Haas will advise the
property owners to address the Council during the Resident Forum at the
May 6 meeting. The intent would be for the Council to add it to the May
/ 20 agenda to allow Staff time to prepare the necessary documentation and
background material, and Chairperson O'Toole and other Commissioners
will be present to answer questions if necessary.
PUBLIC WORKS UPDATE
Mr. Starr stated he will be working with the volunteers for the next
three weeks. They will be doing a lot of plantings, and he asked for
other suggestions. The Commission suggested cleaning up around Red Oaks
East.
Mr. Starr also noted they have spent $9,000 spraying 12 different parks
plus the City Hall complex fields. The part-time help will be starting
in the next two weeks. They are working 10-hour days now. The building
of the new Public Works building is taking a lot of his time now.
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The Commission discussed the unsightly area around the Recycling
Building. A suggestion was to realign the building so it faces south.
They also felt it would be a safety hazard to have the sewer dump site
remain in that area. The number of trunks going in and out of that site
is great, and there are many children on Tower Drive, especially since
that is the main connection between the elementary and the middle
school. They also questioned the compatibility of a sewer dump site and
a City park. It was suggested the Commission contact the Public Works_
Superintendent and the City Councilmembers to let them know they opposed
the dump station in the park. Chairperson O'Toole agreed to bring that
item to the City Council during the Resident Forum at the May 6 meeting.
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(Public Works Update, Continued)
MOTION by Lindahl, Seconded by Barringer, to recommend we get the sewer
dump station out of the City park area to a more remote location. Also
request the recycling center be reorganized and relocated with more
control. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 3-Absent (Blackstad, Grabowski,
Kieffer) vote.
Mr. Starr felt it is important to install a sidewalk along Tower Drive
in the near future. He also reported the sprinkler systems are being
adjusted and rain sen~ors being installed.
Mr. Haas stated the Engineering Department is looking at establishing a
well field around the City Hall area. A proposed location for another
well is in the southern portion of Sunshine Park. He knew that the
Commission had plans to expand the park in the future, which may be
affected by this proposal. He also stated the proposal of drilling a
well to irrigate Sunshine Park will be placed on the next agenda.
UPDATE OF SPECIAL MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL
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Mr. Haas stated three items remain from the agenda for the joint meeting
with the City Council. He will be requesting the Council to set another
joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission either during the
Commission's May 15 meeting or prior to the Council's May 20 meeting~
He will request that joint meeting at the Council's May 6 meeting.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Timber River Estates park - The Commission asked if the flood plain area
in the proposed Timber River Estates park will be usable. Mr. Haas
stated there was no water in that area this year. It is unbuildable,
but it is suitable for ball fields and parking lots. The Commission
will have to decide whether to have a ball field or a soccer field
constructed in that park. The Commission asked that that item be placed
on the next Agenda for discussion. It was also suggested that the
construction of a soccer field at Prairie Knoll park be considered for
the 1998 budget.
MOTION by Lindahl, Seconded by Barringer, to adj ourn. Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, 3-Absent (Blackstad, Grabowski, Kieffer) vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
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\~a~ella A. Peach, Recording Secretary