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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 21, 1997 o "--1 ~ u o CITY of ANDOVER k & l<ecreatlOn CommlSSlOn Meetmg - August 21, 1997 - Minutes A Regular Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called. to order by Chairperson Dave O'Toole at 7:30 p.m., Thursday, August 21, 1997 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Tom Anderson, Brian Barringer, Jim Lindahl, Jeff Kieffer - AI Grabowski, Dave Blackstad Todd Haas, Park Coordinator; others Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Approval of Minutes August 7, 1997: Correct as written. Motion by Barringer, seconded by Anderson to approve the minutes of August 7,1997 as written. Motion carried on a 4-yes (O'Toole, Lindahl, Barringer, Anderson), 1-present (Kieffer), 2-absent (Blackstad, Grabowski) vote. Terrace Park/"No Parking" Signs Discussion Mr. Haas explained that "no parking" signs were installed in May of this year along 135th Avenue and Poppy Street near Terrace Park. We have a request from Sandy Mielke to do something different. Sandy Mielke, 13516 Poppy StreetNW asked that the signs be removed during the off-season. The way the resolution that was adopted by the City Council wa~ written indicates that parking is prohibited year around. She noted that the issue is parking on the west side of Poppy and the north side of 135th Avenue. She suggested that if the signs are notremoved perhaps they could read "No parking either side, May - July." Commissioner Kieffer felt it would make sense to have the signs on Mrs. Mielke's side of the street; however, the other concern is that one of the other residents brought this issue to the city's attention. Mr. Kieffer felt that perhaps that resident should be contacted. After further discussion, the Commission agreed that the "no parking" signs on " '\ the east side of Poppy Street along the park be removed. V , \ , I \......_/ \ " -) " Regular Park and Recreation Commission Meeting August 21, 1997 - Minutes Page 2 , / (Terrace Park, Cont.) Motion by Kieffer, seconded by Lindahl to remove the "no parking" signs on the east side of Poppy Street along the park. Motion carried on a 5 yes, 2 absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. This item will go to the City Council on September 2, 1997. Sandy Mielke suggested that the parents of the ballplayers be reminded to clean up after themselves. Shadowbrook 2nd Addition/Park Dedication Requirements Mr. Haas explained that Mike Quigley of Bunker, LLC has sent a letter to the city offering $14,000 per acre for park dedication fees on Shadowbrook 2nd Addition. This is based on the current appraisals for Crown Pointe East 2nd Addition and Cherrywood Estates. , ./ Commissioner Anderson felt that we should have an appraisal on all properties because values can change in 6 months. Mr. Quigley noted that the appraisals for Cherrywood Estates and Crown Pointe East 2nd are only 60 days old. Mr. Anderson was concerned that if we accept the $14,000 per acre that would be $20,000 the Park Commission is not going to get. Motion by Kieffer, seconded by Barringer that we accept $14,000 per acre for Shadowbrook 2nd Addition as prior appraisals were done in June an those properties were in close proximity to Shadowbrook 2nd Addition. Motion carried on a 4-yes, I-no (Anderson), 2-absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. Hamilton Square/Park Dedication Requirements Mr. Haas explained that approximately a month ago the city had the Hamilton property appraised and the Hamilton's asked that they be allowed to have their own appraisal done. Their appraisal came in a lot less than the one done by Richard Erickson of Appraisal Engineering Bureau, Inc. The Commission felt that we should go with Mr. Erickson's appraisal as the ordinance says that the market value shall be determined by an accredited appraiser chosen by the Park and Recreation Commission. , '\ ./ '-) - '1 ." ) , / Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting August 21, 1997 - Minutes Page 3 (Park Dedication/Hamilton Square, Cont.) Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Barringer that we accept Appraisal Bureau Engineering's appraisal amount in accordance with the ordinance. Motion carried on a 5-yes, 2 absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. This will go to the City Council on September 2, 1997. The Fannstead/Park Dedication Requirements Mr. Haas explained that Presbyterian Homes is going to go through the platting process and the City Council has left it up to the Park and Recreation Commission as to what the dedication fee should be. The City Council is also thinking about amending the ordinance to eliminate the 2% dedication requirement for each additional dwelling unit over 3 units per gross density. '. John Mehrkens of Presbyterian Homes presented two different drawings of their proposed project. The first drawing has been shown to the neighborhood, council and staff. This will be a 3 phase project for senior housing. There will be cottages for independent living seniors, apartment style units and assisted living facilities. The design has incorporated a lot of green space, the Round Barn and walkways. They would like to use these items as part of their park dedication requirement. The second drawing shows the long portion of the barn being eliminated and a pond in that space. One of the duplexes has also been eliminated. They would be willing to look at a different use for the Round Barn, such as a museum for the city. . / Mr. Haas stated that the city attorney explained that the courts have said that 10% is what is reasonable for park dedication. He also noted that the western portion of the proposed development originally was part of the shopping center and a park dedication was paid on that property. This is also true of the portion on the north side of the property. Mr. Mehrkens stated that the site is 10 acres. The walking paths will be open for anyone in the city to use. The donation of the Round Barn and use by the city as they choose and the amount of green space being dedicated would make 10% a reasonable fee. , , / ) '_ J \ U \ Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting August 21, 1997 - Minutes Page 4 , j (The Farmstead Park Dedication, Cont.) Chairperson O'Toole would be in favor because this is considerably different than other developments that have been done. As far as the Round Barn, he didn't know if the city would want ownership. Mr. Haas suggested that the south trail be the main trail and meet bicycle guidelines. Then the city would not need to have a trail along Bunker Lake Boulevard. He felt that the city could pay 50% of the cost and the developer could pay 50%. Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Barringer that we accept a 10% park dedication fee for the property being platted as The Farmstead. Motion carried on a 5-yes, 2-absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. This will go to the City Council on September 2, 1997. Anoka Area Arena Discussion, Cont. , i Mr. Haas explained that at the last meeting Fred Hamacher gave a presentation about the ice arena and the Park Commission decided not to donate any money at this time. There was no change in the Park Commission's decision. 1998 Park Capital Budget Update Chairperson O'Toole explained that he attended the budget meeting with the City Council and that all of the capital expenditures the Park and Recreation Commission had requested have been removed from the budget. The Commission expressed their disappointment noting that the older parks in the city need to be updated as they are hazardous and do not meet ADA requirements. Commissioner Kieffer asked for a breakdown of what the park dedication fees are earmarked for so that the Council knows the Park Commission really has no money. Review BidjPark Fencing Improvements/97-25 : ) The Commission reviewed the fencing bid submitted by Mid-Metro Construction for Project 97-25. The alternate bid was to add fencing and mow strips along the foul lines on the ballfields at Sunshine Park and Pine Hills Park. The Commission didn't feel that the alternate should be awarded at this time. , \.) , '\ .'--./ \ \ , Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting August 21,1997 - Minutes Page 5 (Review Bid/97-25, Cont.) Motion by Anderson, seconded by Kieffer to accept the base bid from Mid-Metro Construction for $51,277.50. The alternate bid will be added to the Park and Recreation Commission agenda on September 4,1997 for further discussion. Motion carried on a 5-yes, 2-absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. Review Bids/Sunshine Park Bikeway TraiV97-27 Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Kieffer to accept the trail bid from Barber Construction in the amount of $12,990.00. Motion carried on a 5-yes, 2-absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. Ordinance 10, Section 9.07 Amendments \ / Mr. Haas noted that the important change in Ordinance 10 is Section 9.07.08, Credit for Private Open Space. He explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission will be holding a hearing on this on August 26th. Chairperson O'Toole stated that his concern is with including commercial and industrial development. He felt that those businesses that want to provide a trail or outside lunch area for their employees should not have to dedicate park space or money as it would be a benefit for the employees rather than the Andover residents. The Commission did not have a problem with eliminating the 2% requirement for additional units. Mr. Haas felt that the attorney should give a written opinion that the 2% above the 10% requirement is not acceptable. Chainnan's Report Commissioner Barringer asked if the city had ever considered a community swimming pool. It was noted that the Oak View Middle School has a pool and the wave pool is located in Bunker Hills Park making it unnecessary for the city to construct one. \ ) Hills of Bunker Lake Pond - Chairperson O'Toole asked if we are doing anything on this item. Mr. Haas noted that it's been a lower priority due to the number of other important projects that are in progress. .. \ I \. _J .:--.J \ J Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting August 21, 1997 - Minutes Page 6 (Chairman's Report, Cont.) Coon Creek Trail - Mr. Haas noted that because of the wet weather, the blacktopping has been slowed. In addition, the bridge over Coon Creek has not arrived as of yet. Snowmobiles - Chairperson O'Toole mentioned that he received a letter from a St. Francis regarding snowmobiles and he would like this on an agenda for discussion. Hills of Bunker Lake 5th, Kelsey-Round Lake and Oak Bluff Parking Lots - Mr. Haas noted that the prices are too high so we'll re-bid this winter and blacktop in the spnng. Irrigation Well - Mr. Haas noted that he is working with Frank Stone and is recommending that we not build another well but use the existing well system and pay our fair share for the chemicals, maintenance and upkeep of the system. This will be discussed with the City Council at the September 2,1997 meeting. Soccer Fields - Mr. Haas explained that because we're not getting very good prices, the bleachers and pads for the soccer fields will be done next year. Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Anderson to adjourn. Motion carried on a 5- yes, 2-absent (Grabowski, Blackstad) vote. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 pm. Respectfully submitted, d.:L- fu-lb Vicki Volk Acting Recording Secretary '. -'