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CITY of ANDOVER
Park and Recreation Commission Meeting - October 2, 1997
Minutes
A regular meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order
by Chairman David O'Toole at 7:35 pm, Thursday, October 2, 1997 at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present:
Tom Anderson, Brian Barringer, Dave Blackstad, Al
Grabowski, Jim Lindahl, Jeff Kieffer (arrived at 8:30 pm)
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Todd Haas, Park Coordinator;
Kevin Starr, Parks Supervisor;
others
Commissioners Absent:
Also Present:
Approval of Minutes
September 18, 1997: Correct as written
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Motion by Blackstad, seconded by Grabowski to approve the minutes of September 18,
1997 as written. Motion carried on 6-yes, 1-absent (Kieffer) vote.
Pool Presentation/City of Anoka
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Brian Lindberg, member of Anoka Park Commission and Chairman of the Pool Finance
Committee explained that the City of Anoka is building an aquatic center to replace the
Charles Horn pool. The swimming pool will be a zero entrance pool and will
accommodate senior citizens, children and handicapped persons. The pool can be used
simultaneously for recreational swimming and swimming lessons. It will have a much
larger deck surface and have no definitive edge. The life of the pool is about 50 years.
The bath house is also being replaced with a new structure and will contain a
concession area, changing areas for females and males and a unisex changing area. The
total cost of the center is 1.539 million dollars. The city is attempting to raise funds from
public and private sources. Bricks are being sold at a cost of $100 each and will have the
name of the person donating the money engraved on them. There are also different
levels of corporate sponsorships. Mr. Lindberg noted that the water slide shown in the
drawings is not included in the 1.5 million dollars. The cost for that is $200,000. They
are also looking at installing a sand play area which will be an additional $18,000 and
pool furniture needs to be purchased at a cost of approximately $42,000. Mr. Lindberg
stated that they want this to be a community type facility and not something only for
the residents of Anoka. In 1993, the majority of the people using the Charles Horn pool
were not from Anoka. At this time, they are asking the City of Andover for a donation
in the amount of $4,000 per year for a period of three years which will buy access for
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our residents (our residents will pay non-resident rates). They understand that there
may be some competition from the wave pool, but that facility is not designed for
young children.
Chairman O'Toole asked if the donation they're asking for is to cover the cost of the
water slide. Mr. Lindberg stated yes, also noting that once the pool opens they will not
end their fundraising efforts. They plan to sell shirts and caps with the aquatic center
logo on them. He stated that their priority now is to get the water slide installed this
year. They hope to open the center in June 1998.
Commissioner Barringer asked what the difference is between resident and non-
resident rates. Mr. Lindberg explained that for a season pass the difference is $20-25.
Daily passes for both residents and non-residents will be $3.50 without the water slide
and $4.50 with the water slide. He noted that there is an area of the pool that will be
used for lap swimming.
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Chairman O'Toole felt that after the 3 years our residents should still be able to get a
break on the rates. Mr. Barringer stated that would be looked at then.
Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Barringer that we set aside $4,000 per year for three
years for the aquatic center for the resident discount with the money coming from the
park dedication fund.
Motion carried on a 6-yes, 1-absent (Kieffer) vote.
Update of Park Dedication Funds
The commission reviewed the listing of the projects for which park dedication fees have
been committed. Mr. Haas explained that the trails for Chesterton Commons and
Hamilton Square are not covered by State Aid because only one side of the road is
eligible, which is the trail along Hanson Boulevard to Oak View Middle School.
Public Works Update
Kevin Starr, Parks Supervisor, noted that the city has put about $3,700 worth of
landscaping at the Crooked Lake boat landing. Some work is being done at the
pumphouses and some of the ballfields. He stated that he will put together a summary
'. of what they have been doing. Mr. Starr also noted that he went to an auction and
, .' obtained about $2,400 worth of trees for $700.00.
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Update of Donations/Cushman
Chairman O'Toole noted that the Andover Athletic Association has donated $1,000
towards the purchase of Cushman for maintaining the city's parks. Mr. Haas explained
that all of the associations have been contacted but none have been heard from as yet.
Commissioner Grabowski expressed disappointment with the associations who have
not donated. Mr. Haas will contact the associations again to ask for contributions.
1998 Andover Community Calendar Discussion
Chairman O'Toole explained that Cindy DeRuyter, the city's Recycling Coordinator, is
seeking donations to publish the 1998 city calendar. He felt that it would be nice to
have a park map and list of the parks included in the calendar.
, Commissioner Anderson didn't think that park dedication funds should be used for this
j as it is a city expense. Commissioner Grabowski disagreed. noting that if the Park and
Recreation Commission sent out a separate mailing with the map and list of parks, it
would cost at least $1,000 and most people would end up throwing it out.
(Commissioner Kieffer arrived at this time: 8:30 PM).
MOTION by Blackstad, seconded by Grabowski to contribute $1,500 for the 1998
community calendar as long as the trail and park maps ore included in the calendar.
Discussion: Chairman O'Toole requested that someone from the Park and Recreation
Commission work with Cindy on the calendar.
Amendment to Motion by Blackstad, seconded by Grabowski that this be a one time
donation and next year the cost will come out of the city's budget.
Motion carried on a 6-yes., I-no (Anderson) vote.
Timber River Estates Park/Playground Equipment
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Mr. Haas reviewed the request for the Park and Recreation Commission to approve the
installation of playground equipment for ages 2-5 for Timber River Estates. Byron
Westlund of Woodland Development felt that it would be in the city's best interest to
install equipment for younger children as it appears that the trend is for younger
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families to move into these types of neighborhoods. The equipment would be similar to
the equipment installed in Oak Bluff and Pleasant Oaks parks.
- The Commission agreed with Mr. Haas's recommendation.
Tournament Application/Sunshine Park
Mr. Haas reviewed the request for an adult softball tournament to be held at Sunshine
Park on October 4th & 5th. The tournament sponsor is the United States Slowpitch
Softball Agency and the tournament directors are Steve Hansen, Brad Povlitzki and
Dave Purtle. The application was received Wednesday, the damage deposit has been
paid and four fields have been paid for. He noted that the concession stand will not be
open.
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Chairman O'Toole noted that the issue here is timing. The application was not received
until this week; however, this tournament was published in February. This is the 2nd
time this applicant has not submitted his application in a timely manner. Chairman
O'Toole stated that another issue is that Mr. Povlitzki has requested not to have a
Sheriff's Deputy present at the tournament. Mr. O'Toole noted that the purpose of
having a Sheriff's Deputy is to protect the city's property and the residents. The City
Council at their budget meeting agreed that a Sheriff's Deputy should not be required.
The Council also noted that they had not approved the application form.
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Mayor McKelvey stated that anything that the Park and Recreation Commission passes
has to be approved by the City Council. He also noted that he called the Sheriff and to
have an officer at the tournament would cost $47.00 per hour.
Discussion center on whether or not the park was cleaned after last year's tournament
with Mr. Grabowski noting that an older man clean up about 100 cans after the
tournament. Commissioner Lindahl felt that the concern of the commission is damage
to the fields, not people drinking. Chairman O'Toole stated that the City Council
requested that one of the bouncers from Pov's be present at the tournament.
Don Legge, Andover resident, felt that there was no planning for this tournament as the
application was only recently submitted. He noted that with a tournament of this size,
there could be 700 people present and there's bound to be liquor. As a resident, he
didn't want to pay for someone's lawsuit. He felt that Pov's should pay for a Deputy to
be present and also pay a maintenance fee.
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Brad Povlitzki stated that he will clean the park, provide security and clean the
bathrooms when the tournament is over.
Commissioner Kieffer stated his main concern is that when you have an adult league
playing, there is more potential for something to go wrong.
Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Barringer to approve the application as submitted
noting that it was not received in a timely manner, provided that Mr. Povlitzki provide
security and clean the park and restrooms after the end of the tournament.
Motion carried on a 6-yes, I-abstain (Grabowski) vote.
Curt Laidlaw, Andover resident, stated that it was his understanding that Sunshine
Park was built for youth only. Commissioner Lindahl explained that it is for youth, but
if the fields are not being used, we will rent it to adult leagues.
Chainnan's Report
Commissioner Blackstad questioned the fence at Pine Hills park as he didn't think it
would be possible to retrieve a ball that is thrown over the fence. Kevin Starr will check
into this matter.
Motion by Blackstad, seconded by Anderson to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 9:35 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
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Vicki Volk
Acting Recording Secretary