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REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 12, 2007
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Chairperson Deric Deuschle, September 12, 2007, 7:05 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Deric Deuschle, Commissioners Gretchen Sabel, Jody
Keppers, Winslow Holasek, Bruce Perry and Kim Kovich
Commissioners absent: Commissioner Jim Olson
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
0 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
August 9, 2007
Commissioner Keppers indicated Chairman Deuschle's name was not listed under
Commissioners present.
Motion by Commissioner Perry, seconded by Commissioner Keppers, to approve the minutes as
presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Holasek, Olson, Sabel) vote
Commissioner Sabel arrived at 7:07 p.m.
PRESENTATION OF NATURAL FEATURES INFORMATION/ANOKA CONSERVATION
DISTRICT
Mr. Bednarz introduced Josh Williams from the Anoka Conservation District who made a
presentation to the Commission regarding Natural Features information.
Commissioner Holasek arrived at 7:11 p.m.
Mr. Williams reviewed two Conservation Opportunities in Andover maps with the Commission.
0 Commissioner Perry wondered what the definition of Conservation Corridors was. Mr. Williams
explained the definition to the Commission.
Mr. Williams reviewed with the Commission the potential scope of services that are provided by the
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Anoka Conservation District along with a Memorandum of Understanding.
Commissioner Kovich stated when making up the maps, it may be nice to break down ownership,
current parks, State or County land, school land, etc. He wondered if a map like this could be put
together. Mr. Williams stated they could put together a pretty up to date map and they can do
different things with the data.
Commissioner Kovich wondered what materials would consist of. Mr. Williams stated they would
charge for printing of large maps and other items along with time.
Chairperson Deuschle stated he would like to further discuss the Memorandum of Understanding
(MOD) because he thought this would be a recommendation to the City Council.
Commissioner Kovich asked if Mr. Bednarz reviewed the MOD. Mr. Bednarz indicated he reviewed
it at the meeting. Commissioner Kovich wondered if the City Attorney should review this. Mr.
Bednarz stated they could have the City Attorney review this if needed.
0 Mr. Williams indicated he forgot to print out Exhibit A and would email it to Mr. Bednarz for
Commission review.
Chairperson Deuschle stated he envisioned the scope of service to be similar to what was presented
and he did not see any reason why they would turn this down. He stated he did not have a problem
with green lighting this project. Commissioner Keppers agreed along with Commissioner Sabel.
Commissioner Keppers stated since Mr. Williams will only be here until the end ofthe year and the
project would be done in June 2008, he thought they should move forward on this sooner than later.
Commissioner Sabel wondered if they could use the potential scope of services to indicate what they
would be interested in.
Commissioner Kovich stated being on the Board at the Anoka Conservation District, he thought they
should approve Mr. Williams because the main cost to them would be the cost of materials but he
thought the City could print out a lot of the' items. He stated Mr. Williams is the grant person but
there are other people in the organization that can carry on after Mr. Williams is not there.
Chairperson Deuschle indicated he would be willing to recommend to the City Council requesting
Anoka Conservation District (ACD) to write up attachment A with the Scope of Services. Mr.
Bednarz indicated before a motion can be made, they need to get the Exhibit A from Mr. Williams in
0 order for the City Council to review and possibly approve it.
Commissioner Sabel wondered if City Staff would have time to work with ACD on this. Mr.
Bednarz indicated they would.
Commissioner Sabel asked what the zones would mean. Chairperson Deuschle thought it was just a
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way to pair down the area and did not have significant differences. He thought it was a mapping of
keeping track of where things are. Commissioner Sabel wondered why they cannot look at this as
corridors instead of zones. Mr. Bednarz thought they would still use corridors but zoning was to
prioritize areas and to figure out who was in the phases they needed to work with.
The Commission discussed what they wanted to have the ACD to work on for them.
Commissioner Sabel thought a use for the zones would be to have goals for each zone and look at
this before they look at parcel by parcel.
Chairperson Deuschle thought they would not be getting review of any of the plat unless they
indicate they would like to review ones they were interested in for open space. Mr. Bednarz stated
they could indicate areas within the development corridor they should be communicating through the
development process.
Mr. Bednarz indicated they would refine the Exhibit A and refine the map and come to the next
meeting for recommendation to the Council.
0 Mr. Bednarz stated staff would like to have more collaboration with ACD throughout the process.
Motion by Commissioner Peny, seconded by Commissioner Keppers, to allow ACD to continue to
work on what was previously agreed to. Motion carried on a 5 ayes, 0 nays, 1 abstain (Kovich), 1
absent (Olson).
DISCUSS SITE SELECTION CRITERIAlPARKS AND OPEN SPACE CHAPTER OF
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Chairperson Deuschle reviewed what was discussed at the previous meeting with the Commission.
Commissioner Keppers thought a lot of what they have been talking about relates to this topic.
Commissioner Peny wondered if they were looking at the criteria from the Comprehensive Plan.
Chairperson Deuschle indicated that was correct. Mr. Bednarz stated the language came from their
existing Comprehensive Plan and is a draft form of the Comprehensive Plan Amendment. He
thought they could be more specific in the criteria ifthey want to be.
Chairperson Deuschle did not think the Comprehensive Plan needed to have their point system and
grading for potential open space areas but it could have more detail. He thought they could apply
0 criteria as a bullet point in the plan. He stated their criteria may be more specific than what is listed.
Commissioner Sabel wondered if they should have their criteria done and in the update for public
hearing of the Comprehensive Plan Amendment this fall. Mr. Bednarz thought it would be a good
idea. He stated there is room in there to discuss this monthly until they get the criteria figured out.
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Commissioner Kovich thought as a group they should put up all the criteria they wanted and then go
through them individually.
Commissioner Sabel wondered if it would be better to have a work session rather than a formal
meeting in a couple of weeks to go over the criteria they have started to mention and this would give
them some traction because she did not think they were getting very far at their meetings.
Commissioner Keppers stated he would be in favor of a work session in a couple of weeks rather
than waiting an entire month before meeting again. Commissioner Sabel thought it was a way to sit
down and go over the specific criteria.
Commission concurrence was to have a work session for September 26,2007 at 7:00 p.m.
Motion by Commissioner Sabel, seconded by Commissioner Kovich, to schedule a work session for
September 26, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 ayes, 0 nays, 1 absent (Olson).
0 RECEIVE INFORMATION ON 2006 CITIZEN SURVEY
Chairperson Deuschle thought the survey was very interesting. Commissioner Perry stated he found
it interesting that Parks and Open Space were high priority on the survey.
Commissioner Perry wondered how much per household the cost was for the Open Space
Referendum. Commissioner Sabel thought it was around $8.00 per $100,000.
Commissioner Sabel thought Item 3 was the most important item in the survey regarding open space.
She thought people in Andover thought differently than other communities in the area because they
have different site lines and a blend of forests, wetland and communities.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the 2007 Conservation Seminar with the Commission and recapped what was
discussed at the seminar and the different areas and places they can look for help in planning the
Open Space. He stated there are people who can assist them with communicating with the
homeowners on an individual basis. They need to find out what the property owners vision for their
land is and there are people out there that can help them with this. There are a lot more approaches
out there beside Conservation Easements. There are a number of different tax incentives and
0 programs that people can take advantage of for sales of properties and the City has different
resources they can use to communicate this to the property owners who are looking to sell.
Commissioner Kovich asked if Mr. Bednarz would recommend attending this. Mr. Bednarz stated
he would because it was very helpful.
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A. Next Meeting
October 10, 2007 will be the next Open Space Commission meeting.
Motion by Commissioner Perry, Seconded by Commissioner Kovich, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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