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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -AUGUST 11,1998
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to
order by Acting Chairperson Randy Peek on August 11, 1998,7:30 p.m. at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
Maynard Apel, Mike Gamache, Don Jacobson, Lorna Wells
Jeff Squires, Jeff Luedtke
City Planning, Jeff Johnson
Others
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 28, 1998: Correct as written.
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Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Wells, the Minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, 1-
Present (Peek), 2-Absent (Squires, Luedtke) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT - RETAIL TRADE AND SERVICES IN AN I,
INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT -13440 HANSON BOULEVARD NW - JBS LANDSCAPING, INC.
7:32p.m. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of JBS Landscaping and Irrigation, Inc., to operate a
commercial landscaping retail trade and services operation at 13440 Hanson Boulevard NW.
Landscaping and irrigation supplies, such as poly, edging, irrigation, supplies, tools, fertilizer, etc.,
would be offered for sale on-site. All supplies and materials would be stored in a building with no
exterior storage. If approved, Staff is recommending several conditions to the Resolution.
Acting Chairperson Peek opened the hearing for public testimony. Commissioner Wells asked if
there would be any live vegetation on the site.
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Norm? . 18S Landscaping and Irrigation. Inc. - stated there will be no landscaping plants or sod on
site. The only things that will be sold are fabric, ploy, fertilizers, landscaping tools, lighting, drain
tile and irrigation parts. They will have a display area for customers and clients from which they
pick out the products. No material will be stored outside. There will be two warehouses and offices.
They are not sure about the fertilizer in the building. The building is not finished yet. The
Department of Agriculture has issued their license to apply fertilizer but they have not been able to
inspect the building to see if it is safe to store it. Commissioner Jacobson noted as a retail trade
store, people from off the street can walk in to buy their product. He wondered if there is adequate
parking. Mr. Johnson stated that will have to be reviewed by Staff.
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(Public Hearing: Special Use Permit - Retail Trade and Services, JBS Landscaping, Continued)
Mr.? - stated they will not be advertising items for sale. Only special clients and people they have
been associated with for the last five years in this area will be coming to view the display. They do
not handle pesticides, only fertilizers and what a city requires. Each city gives a list of what they can
apply, and they only buy as needed. Many of their clients are in Delwood and Minnetonka. He lives
in Coon Rapids about two blocks from this site. He has been trying to move to Andover on five or
six acres for the past several years. When the 80 acres came up, he bid on it but didn't get it. He has
been talking with the Mayor and the Planning Department as to where he can locate to get his
equipment off the street and the business out of his house. Hours of operation would probably be
8 a.m. to 5 p.m. The rest of the time would be closed door to do designs. Commissioner Jacobson
noted the Resolution is for no outside storage; however, the intent is to park a truck in the back.
Mr. ? - stated one dump truck will be parked in the back, but he believes there will be a fence. The
other truck will be parked inside the warehouse. All of his equipment is brand new. There are about
10 spaces in the building. They will have two offices and two warehouses. Mr. Johnson
acknowledged that the Resolution should be changed. Commissioner Wells asked ifthere were road
restrictions in the area. Mr. Johnson stated no.
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Motion by Wells, Seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 5-Yes,
2-Absent (Squires, Luedtke) vote. 7:48 p.m.
Commissioner Jacobson thought the Special Use Permit should apply to the specific locations or area
within the building itself. Acting Chairperson Peek was concerned with the potential effect of
creating more of a demand for parking.
Mr.? - didn't think they will need much clientele parking each day. He would expect a client or
a couple to come to the office once or twice a week. There are over 35 parking stalls on the one side
of the building. They are allowed four parking stalls up front with several in the back. Anything
more than that, they will have to store vehicles inside. Mr. Johnson stated the square footage can
be included in the Resolution.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Apel, the Resolution as presented with the following changes:
First WHEREAS, the appropriate address be very specific for this particular use be inserted inside
of the general address which is indicated in the Resolution. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, First section, change to, "No outside supplies associated with the operation except
vehicles shall be permitted." Add section 4, "Subject to attaining the necessary permits from the
permitting state agencies for fertilizer storage if fertilizer needs to be stored." Section 5, "Subject
to adequate parking space per City ordinances." Motion carried on a 5- Yes, 2-Absent (Squires,
Luedtke) vote. This will be on the September I, 1998, City Council agenda. 7:54 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDED SPECIAL USE PERMIT - TEMPORARY ABOVE GROUND
FUEL TANK - 3118162ND LANE NW -ACE SOLID WASTE
7:54 p.m. Mr. Johnson reviewed the request of Ace Solid Waste for an Amended Special Use Permit
to replace a 3,000-gallon underground storage tank with a temporary 2,500-gallon above-ground
storage tank for diesel fuel at 3118 162nd Lane NW. Staff is recommending approval with
conditions. Acting Chairperson Peek opened the hearing for public testimony. 7:58 p.m.
Doug Lawrence. representing Ace Solid Waste - explained Federal regulations require the
underground tanks to be removed by December 31, 1998. The temporary storage tank will then be
placed in about the same location. They have permission to install a 10,000-gallon underground
storage tank, but the drawings haven't been done for the new buildings, so they don't know where
that location will be yet. That is why they are requesting the temporary storage tanks. Commissioner
Wells asked if both the underground and temporary tanks will be used at the same time. Also, what
happens if they find contamination of the soil when the old tank is removed.
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Mr. Lawrence - stated no. The underground tank will be removed and destroyed the day it is pulled
out. Test wells haven't shown any problems with the soil, but more tests will be taken and the soil
sent to the lab for analysis. The Fire Chief will be on the property when the old tank is pulled out.
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Motion by Apel, Seconded by Wells, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-
Absent (Squires, Luedtke) vote. 8:01
Commissioner Jacobson felt the proposed Resolution is confusing, as it is to address only the
temporary above-ground storage tanle Commissioner Wells wanted a contingency that the above-
ground tank would not be installed until the below-ground tank is removed and empty. She was
concerned with spillage and cleanup, especially with houses only 700 feet away. Other
Commissioners did not see the relevancy, as the intent is the old tank will be removed and a new one
installed, but in the meantime, this is a temporary tank.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Apel, the Resolution with changes under the NOW,
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: 1) That the applicant shall provide to the City, in writing, proof
that the above-ground tank meets all State and Federal requirements and installation regulations. 2)
That the Andover Fire Chief inspect the above-ground tank's installation. 3) That a one-year time
limit be imposed from the adoption of this Resolution for the removal of the proposed above-ground
tank from the site. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-Absent (Squires, Luedtke) vote. This will be on
the September 1,1998, City Council agenda. 8:08 p.m.
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DISCUSSION - ORDINANCE NO.8, SECTION 8.24, JUNK VEHICLES - PROVIDING MORE
RESTRICTIVE CONTROLS FOR REPEAT VIOLATORS
Mr. Johnson explained before the Commission is a draft ordinance regulating abandoned, wrecked,
junked, partially dismantled or in operative vehicles which is similar to the one used by the City of
St. Paul. It would adopt a tag and removal process for these types of vehicles. The resident would
have 20 days to correct a violation. Also before the Council is a letter from the City Attorney's
office dated August II, 1998, indicating concerns on the legality of the proposed ordinance in its
present form. The suggestion is that residents be given an opportunity to be heard by the City
Council before the property is declared a nuisance and an abatement ordered. Then the matter would
go to district court to authorize going onto private property to remove the vehicles. That w\luld
extend the length of the process to about two months. He noted the proposed ordinance is working
in St. Paul, but he could research as to whether or not it has been challenged in court. Hov.ever,
there are other options that the Commission could explore such as the citation process or fining
process.
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Commissioner Wells was concerned about the cost of a process that requires going to court, as it
becomes an expense to the taxpayers. There should be some way that the violator must also be
required to pay all of the costs. Mr. Johnson didn't know if the City Council wanted to hold a
public hearing for such junk vehicle violations. Commissioner Apel suggested more research on the
St. Paul ordinance be done such as how long it has been in effect, what problems they have had with
it and why their City attorney would recommend it and Andover's does not. Do they recover their
costs of enforcing the ordinance?
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Commissioner Jacobson had marked a number of problem areas on the draft ordinance; and before
giving his copy to Mr. Johnson, he pointed out the following:
Page I, Section 2, Abandoned Motor Vehicle: "...which has been voluntarily surrendered by its
owner..." Commissioner Jacobson felt the wording is a concern. Is the City going to be accepting
vehicles that people voluntarily give to it?
Page 4, Section 8, Entry on Public and Private Places: How does a City employee get onto private
property to obtain the make, model and serial number of a vehicle? The City must be careful of
what it can and cannot do legally.
Pages 5-6, Sections 12-14: Commissioner Jacobson felt the sections are in conflict with each other.
Section 12 states an abandoned vehicle is immediately eligible for public sale without notice, but
Section 13 requires a IS-day notice and Section 14 doesn't allow a time for vehicles to be reclaimed.
He understood the frustration on how long it takes to resolve violations; but at the same time, the
City cannot take away rights people have regarding their property.
The Commission continued to discuss options, the need to notifY the person who owns a vehicle that
is in violation, the right to be heard, the need for a timely resolution to the problem, the question of
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(Discussion - Ordinance 8, Section 8.24, Junk Vehicles, Continued)
whether or not the violator can be made to pay for the expenses of correcting the situation similar
to assessing for other costs and the preference that the process have the vehicle removed from the
property as opposed to issuing a citation.
Mr. Johnson stated he would talk with the City attorney and do more research on the St. Paul
ordinance. He stated he would have more information for the Commission at the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Plans for the Commercial Park - The Commission understood they were to see the proposal for the
Andover Commercial Park and the theater project. It was felt the Commission should be made
aware of proposals and projects that are taking place in the City. Mr. Johnson stated the Planning
Department is aware of that.
Mining permit proposal- Mr. Johnson stated Staffhas not been in contact with the applicant, Tony
Emmerich, about the mining permit request. The developer is rethinking the request at this time.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Wells, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 5- Yes, 2-Absent (Squires,
Luedtke) vote.
The meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary