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CITY of ANDOVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 17,1998
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to
order by Chairperson AI Grabowski on September 17, 1998, 7:33 p.m. at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad, Jeff Kieffer (arrived at 8:11 p.m.),
Jim Lindahl (arrived at 7:42 p.m.), Dave O'Toole
Brian Barringer
Park Coordinator, Todd
Commissioners absent;
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
() September 3, J 998: Correct as written.
Motion by O'Toole, Seconded by Blackstad, to approve the Minutes as written. Motion carried on
a 4- Yes, 3-Absent (Barringer, Kieffer, Lindahl) vote.
UPDATE OF PARK BOARD REFERENDUM/IP98-18
Commissioner O'Toole updated the Commission on the public informational meeting held on
September 10 for the residents to explain the proposed park bond referendum. As a result, the
Commission suggested the bond be on a special election in May. The City Council voted to put the
bond on the November ballot, though some were concerned with having enough time to promote it.
With the proposed changes to the project, the total park bond is $3.74 million. The next step is to
promote it. Hopefully the youth associations will help. Chairperson Grabowski stated he and
Commissioner Blackstad will contact the associations and provide the information they will need
for a flyer.
Mr. Haas stated a notice has been put in the City's newsletter. For the next meeting, he will have
a draft brochure for the Commission to review. Chairperson Grabowski asked for the cost of the
brochure and the cost to mail it to every single household in the City.
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(Commissioner Lindahl arrived at this time, 7:42 p.m.)
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DISCUSS 1998 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET
Mr. Haas reviewed the status of the projects of the 1998 Capital Improvement Budget. The Hidden
Creek North Park project should be completed in about a week. Chairperson Grabowski suggested
that the City have standard dimensions for two sets of backstops, a smaller one and a larger one. Mr.
Haas agreed.
Mr. Haas stated there is $9,114 remaining from the estimated budget for Sunshine Park, though the
quotes for the concrete pads for the bleachers have not yet been received. He didn't know if the
$6,000 allocated for that project will be enough. The Commission discussed possible uses for the
remaining dollar amount. It was agreed to several items and to look at the remaining amount again
at the next meeting.
Motion by O'Toole, Seconded by Blackstad, to recommend we allocate $3,000 for landscaping, plus
add an additional $500 to the concrete bids, plus $1,000 for benches at Hills of Bunker Lake East
and Hidden Creek North to be put by the playground equipment. Motion carried on a 5-Yes, 2-
Absent (Barringer, Kieffer) vote.
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APPROVE FALL SOCCER/FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Chairperson Grabowski suggested in the future the soccer and football associations will have to
apply to use the fields for their fall activities. In the past, it was just assumed that the use of the
fields in the summer would carry over to the fall leagues. Mr. Haas suggested a possible deadline
might be the applications would be approved by the Commission at the second meeting in July. Tht:
Commission suggested he contact the soccer and football associations regarding their sign ups for
fall leagues and when they would know the number of fields they need to make application. They
then agreed with the schedule as proposed.
Motion by Blackstad, Seconded by Lindahl, to approve the fall soccer/football schedule. Motion
carried on a 5- Yes, 2-Absent (Barringer, Kieffer) vote.
UPDATE OF BIKEWAYIWALKWAY TRAIVIP98-17/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. Haas stated he was at the Anoka County Board meeting. This item was tabled to September 22.
If approved, the cost for the trail along Bunker Lake Boulevard would be a split between the City
and the county. Most of the field work is done, and plans are being prepared. It appears the trail
west of Hanson Boulevard will be on the south side until Crosstown. Then it will be on the north
side going west toward Round Lake Boulevard. Some of it will depend on the location of the storm
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(Update of Bikeway/Walkway Trail/1P98-17/Bunker Lake Blvd, Continued)
water ponds and the bridge. He will keep the Commission updated as he finds out information.
Chairperson Grabowski was concerned with the funding. If the bond does not pass, what happens
to the trail? He was also concerned that the City has declared the existing trails officially open,
though the signage is not completed. Mr. Haas stated the Street Department is in the process of
making those signs now. He is encouraging them to keep the signage to a minimum.
UPDATE OF DEVELOPMENT/COMMERCIAL PARK/IP97-2
Chairperson Grabowski noted the ponding area will be surrounding by a trail, but the pond is a
requirement of the development.
(Commissioner Kieffer, arrived at this time, 8:11 p.m.)
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Chairperson Grabowski also noted the City Administrator wasn't specific in some of the comments
related to park dedication, such as "...excess TIF dollars which could be allocated..." He'd prefer to
know how many dollars "will" be allocated" to the park/trails. Mr. Haas noted the land value before
development is virtually zero, as no one would purchase that property and invest the millions of
dollars needed to clean it up. The proposal is there would be no park dedication paid but the City
will pay for the trails in the Park.
Chairperson Grabowski stated as long as the Park Board doesn't fund the development of the trails
and park in the development, he didn't have a problem with the proposal. Commissioner Lindahl
also wanted to go on record that neither would the Park Board be responsible if something goes bad.
Chairperson Grabowski stated in looking at the proposal, he wanted to be sure that the trails within
the development link to others, and not just stop or dead end. The original intent was to have a
recreational walkway for walkers and employees within the Park. The trails should also be such that
the residents have access to them. No further action was taken.
REVIEW ISSUES LIST
Coon Creek Corridor Trail - Mr. Haas stated the bonding company has been called because the
contractor has gone out of business.
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Coon Creek Corridor Trail- The Commission suggested a post-card questionnaire of three to four
questions which can be answered by checking a box be send to the neighborhoods on both sides of
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the Coon Creek trail. Also provide a place for them to comment. The card could then simply be
returned to the City. The Commission also wanted to know if the trails have had any impact on the
abutting property owners and suggested those questionnaires be coded differently to be able to
determine those responses. Questions might include how they use the trails -- walking, biking, roller
blading; how often they use the trails, etc. Mr. Haas stated he will draft a questionnaire and fax it
to the Commissioners prior to the next meeting.
Community Education - Mr. Haas stated he will follow up on this item with the Finance Director to
see if it has been moved to a new location in the budget.
Timber Rivers Park - Mr. Haas stated he will call the developer tomorrow.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
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Money from adult tournaments - Commissioner Blackstad suggested that the money that has been
received from adult tournaments be earmarked for additional staff for maintenance of the fields for
youth tournaments. Chairperson Grabowski noted the money is a donation from the Lions as
opposed to a fee, so he felt it should be able to be put toward maintenance. Mr. Haas stated he will
check into it.
Maintenance for tournaments - Chairperson Grabowski noted the agreement with the Park
Department regarding the amount of maintenance during youth weekend tournaments. He has
received a call from a Park Department employee to cut back on the number of hours even further.
He stated an agreement is needed for tournament maintenance for next year. He was also concerned
that the City is getting more and more parks, is receiving more and more taxes, that the
administrative staffhas doubled in the last five years but the park maintenance department has stayed
the same. And the inability to maintain the parks properly has shown in the parks this year. More
part-time help is needed in the summer also. Commissioner Anderson stated they need to send a
clear message to the City Council that more help is needed in the Parks Department. Mr. Haas noted
the Council is discussing the budget for 1999 on September 29. He suggested the Commission be
represented at that meeting.
M"otion by Blackstad, Seconded by Anderson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
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Respectfully submit.t:ed
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Marce"Ha A. Peach, Recording Secretary