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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 2, 1999 .'-", V o o CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 · (612) 755-5100 AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - DECEMBER 2,1999 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chairperson Dave Blackstad on December 2, 1999, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad, Valerie Holthus, Jim Lindahl (arrived at 8:18 p.m.), and Dave O'Toole Al Grabowski and JeffK.ieffer Commissioners absent: RESIDENTS FORUM None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES o Item was tabled. / \ U RECOMMEND PARK DEDICATION/SUNRlDGE Chairperson Blackstad stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review and recommend the park dedication requirements for the proposed development of Sunridge as proposed by D.H. Land Co. During sketch plan review the Commission was leaning towards cash in lieu of land plus the trail fee. Also, a trail easement would be dedicated to the City along the east side of Lot 1, Block 1. The City would be responsible for 100% of constructing the traiL Kevin Stanton. D.H. Land Co., questioned if the park dedication can be reduced based on purchase price. He explained that when they purchased the property they were estimating 10 percent in park-dedication and now they are having to paying double. Commissioner O'Toole replied that the current ordinance is $1,100 per unit for park dedication and $300 per unit for trail fee which the Park Commission is looking to increase. Their proposed development has increased density and will have more of an impact on parks, trails and the City as a whole. Mr. Stanton explained that they completed a buyer profile on 236 townhomes in the area and found that there were only four children in those 236 townhomes. Commissioner O'Toole replied that the Park Commission operates with the idea that the park system is not exclusive to children. / , / '\ 'J o 0 Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission JUeeting Minutes - December 2, 1999 Page 2 Chairperson Blackstad explained that it is because of the higher density developments that many Cities are going to the per unit park dedication fee rather than a percentage. Mr. StaiJ.ton replied that the basis of the law was based on 10 percent and now they are being required to pay double that amount. Commissioner O'Toole noted that under the ten percent ordinance that was previously in place the City would bring in their own appraiser to appraise the value of the land. Doug Hanson. D.H. Land Co., stated that the park dedication rates should not be increased because of developments like theirs which end up paying much more than 10 percent in park dedication of the purchase price. Chairperson Blackstad noted that if they can get preliminary plat approval before the first of the year they will be required to pay the $1,100 per unit fee. Mr. Stanton inquired if the Commission could guarantee them the current rate if preliminary plat is approved before the first of the year: ,. -., V Commissioner O'Toole replied that he could not guarantee them the current rate. Chairperson Blackstad stated that he was under the impression that any plat that was in the process would follow the old ordinance. Mr. Hanson stated that it would only be fair that any plat that has preliminary plat by the first of the year be allowed to pay the 1999 fees. Commissioner O'Toole replied that the Park Commission can make the recommendation, but the decision is made by City Council. Mr. Hanson requested that the City give developers some time in the year 2000 at the old park dedication rate, if they already have plats up for approval since in the City of Andover requires a plat be completed before the end of the year if they are going to begin construction the following year. Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Anderson, to recommend cash in lieu of land for park dedication plus the trail fee for the Sunridge Development. Motion carried on 4 - ayes, 0 - nays, 3 - absent (Grabowski, Kieffer, and Lindahl), and 0 - present vote. C) RECOMMEND PARK DEDICATION/SHADOWBROOK 6TH ADDITION Chairperson Blackstad stated the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review and recommend the park dedication requirements for the proposed development of Shadowbrook 6th r , , r- , " '\ '. I , , \ 'J o () Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - December 2, 1999 Page 3 Addition as proposed by Bunker, LLC. During the sketch plan review the Commission was leaning towards cash in lieu of land plus the trail fee. Mike Quiglev. Bunker LLC, reviewed the sketch plan of the development. He proposed cash in lieu of land for park dedication, but noted they have 1.42 acres in credit from the previous addition and would like that applied to the park dedication owed. Commissioner Holthus inquired as to the value of the credit. Mr. Quigley replied that the he paid $13.206 per acre. Commissioner Anderson requested that Mr. Quigley give Mr. Haas the 13.206 per acre estimate. Pending approvalcifthe credit nwnbers BlackstadlO'Toole Motion by Blackstad, seconded by O'Toole, to recommend cash in lieu of land for park dedication plus the trail fee contingent upon approval of the accurate credit for Shadowbrook 6th Addition. Motion carried on 4 - ayes, 0 - nays, J - absent (Grabowski, Kieffer, and Lindahl), and o - present vote. ,- \ \......-/ PUBLIC WORKS UPDA TE The Park and Recreation Commission received a copy of the public works updates which noted that if any of the Commission members had any questions to contact Kevin Starr or Frank Stone, Public Works Superintendent. Chairperson Blackstad noted that the Anoka County Sheriffs Department recently arrested two juveniles for vandalizing the parks. DISCUSS REQUEST FOR TRAIL ALONG 7TH A VENUE _/\ 'J .:J ./ '\ V o (j Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - December 2, 1999 Page .f Jim Lindahl arrived at 8:18 p.m. Chairperson Blackstad stated that it would less costly to do an underpass on 7th Avenue rather than an overpass. He noted that there could be some municipal state aid money available for the project since 7th Avenue is designated as a County State Aid Highway. Commissioner Anderson explained that the City of Andover does not have much say on County roads. Commissioner Holthus stated that the only park the City could be involved with would be the section of trail over to 7th Avenue. _ Commissioner O'Toole stated that the Park Commission could support her efforts with the County and he would be willing to do so. Ms. Beckman explained that 7th Avenue is very dangerous, but she wasn't aware of the cooperative effort with the adjoining cities. Chairperson Blackstad noted that the property is going to go through drastic development over the next few years and that is when they will see the trails going in. Commissioner O'Toole requested that Staff to determine what the route would be from Kelsey Round Lake Park over to 7th Avenue and then support Ms. Beckman in her efforts with the County. Ms. Beckman inquired as to what type of funding might be available. Commissioner O'Toole directed her to talk to Mr. Haas since 7th Avenue is a County road. Commissioner Anderson stated that he would not be in favor of developing a trail to 7th Avenue without knowing what the County plans are. Ms. Beckman replied that the connection to 7th Avenue is nota major conc~rn. Commissioner O'Toole suggested that Ms. Beckman take the issue up with the County Park Board. APPROVE APPLICATION FOR USE OF SHELTER AT SUNSHINE PARK, CONT. Chairperson B1ackstad stated the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the proposed application for temporary use of the picnic shelter at Sunshine Park. He questioned if the wording "No Alcohol without a permit" be added. \ J I ,- '\, / ,- '\ '-J '\ '-.../ U Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission A1eeting Minutes - December 2, 1999 Page 5 o Consensus of the Commission was to add the "No Alcohol without a permit" under Facilities Available. Commissioner Lindahl stated that an hour time frame would be more appropriate. Chairperson Blackstad inquired if the shelter should be blocked off for reservation during a tournament. Consensus of the Commission was no. Commissioner O'Toole suggested reserving three hour blocks. Commission agreed with the three hour block. Commissioner Lindahl questioned if the time should be left open for any three hour block. Commissioner Anderson requested adding the wording "select three hour time". Commission agreed to keep the fee at $25 for three hours and to keep the hours open. Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Anderson, to recommend approval of the application for temporary use of the picnic shelter at Sunshine Park with corrections.. Motion carried on 5 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2 - absent (Grabowski and Kieffer), and 0 - present vote. APPROVE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING 2000 USER FEES FOR SHELTER AT SUNSHINE PARK Chairperson Blackstadstated the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to recommend approval of the resolution establishing 2000 user fees for the use of the picnic shelter at Sunshine Park within the City of Andover. Commissioner Anderson noted that the "three hour period" wording needs to be added. Commissioner Lindahl requested removing the wording "type of fee". Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Anderson, to recommend approval of the resolution establishing 2000 user fees for the use of the picnic shelter at Sunshine Parkwithin the City of Andover with corrections. Motion carried on 5 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2 - absent (Grabowski and Kieffer), and 0 - present vote. /\ APPROVE QUOTES/CHESTERTON COMMONS PARK V Chairperson Blackstad stated that this item was tabled until Staff is able to obtain quotes for the playground equipment at Chesterton Commons park. / .r , .",-... .. , , . J . , '--- . '-./ o C) Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - December 2, 1999 Page 6 RECOMMEND TRAIL FEES FOR Y2K Chairperson Blackstad stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to recommend approving the resolution setting fees for trails in commercial/industrial and residential developments for the year 2000. Consensus was to increase the trail fee to $350. Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Anderson, to recommend approving the resolution setting fees for trails in commercial/industrial and residential developments for the year 2000. Motion. carried on 5 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2 - absent (Grabowski and Kieffer), and 0 - present vote. REVIEW ISSUES LIST Mr. Blackstad reviewed the items on the issues list. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT " None. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Anderson, seconded by O'Toole, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Nani:i Libor, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. "