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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 17, 1999 C) " " ......) C) o o CITY of ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 17,1999 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chairperson Dave Blackstad on June 17, 1999,7:35 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Tom Anderson, Dave Blackstad, Al Grabowski, Valerie Holthus, and Dave O'Toole Jeff Kieffer and Jeff Lindahl Park Coordinator; Todd Haas Commissioners absent: Also present: RESIDENTS FORUM None. APPROVAL OFMINUTES June 3, 1999 Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Grabowski, to approve the Minutes as written. Motion carried on 4 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2 - absent (Kieffer and Lindahl), and 1 - present (Blackstad) vote. APPROVE ADULT SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT APPLICATION Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to recommend approval of the tournament application form for North Suburban Mutual Aid for August 21,1999. He explained that the directors of the tournament are requesting to waive the fees although they still would need to submit the damage deposit fee of $250 for non-profit organizations. Commissioner Grabowski questioned if they wanted to have concessions open. Tom Johnson. Tournament Director, stated that if they wanted the stand open they could, but the tournament will be providing their own food. Commissioner Grabowski stated that he didn't think it would then be necessary for the concessions to be open. Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Grabowski, to recommend to City Council approval of the tournament application form for North Suburban Mutual Aid for August 21, 1999 waiving the tournament fees. Motion carried on 5 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2 - absent (Kieffer and Lindahl), and 0 - present vote. r " , / u (.J Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - June 17, 1999 Page 2 ) WOODLAND ESTATES i"'D ADDITION SKETCH PLAN Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the sketch plan of Woodland Estates 2nd Addition as being proposed by Woodland Development Company. Mr. Haas explained that on-street bicycle routes need to be identified. Currently, Uplander Street NW in the existing Woodland Estates development located on the west side is designated as a bike route with no parking on both sides. The existing bike route is a little wider (35 feet back of curb to back of curb) to accommodate this. Currently the typical street section is 33 feet back of curb to back of cub in the urban area Byron Westlund. Woodland Development. stated that they are proposing to the Park and Recreation Committee cash in lieu of land for park dedication. Commissioner O'Toole stated that he was okay with accepting cash in lieu ofland. Commissioner Holthus questioned if 149th Avenue NW had signs posted as a designated bike route. Mr. Westlund stated that was correct. ...-/ Commissioner O'Toole recommended cash in lieu ofland with the widening of the street to 35 feet. Mr. Westlund updated the Commission on the status of the Timber River Estates fishing pier and noted that he hopes to have it completed by the end of July. SHADOWBROOK 6TH ADDITION SKETCH PLAN Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the sketch plan of Shadow brook 6th Addition as being proposed by GaR-EM, LLC. Mr. Haas noted that it appears at this point there are no trails that are being planned along the south side of Coon Creek so, therefore, the Commission may want to consider dedication of cash in lieu ofland plus the trail fee. Mike Quiglev. GQR-EM, LLC, reviewed the sketch plan of Shadow brook 6th Addition and stated that they are proposing cash in lieu ofland. Mr. Quigley questioned if the Park and Recreation Commission would consider if an excess in park dedication was paid on Shadowbrook Phases I through 5 if that could be applied to Shadowbrook 6th Addition. I , / ') U Regular Andover park\nd Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - June 17, 1999 Page 3 \ , / Commissioner Grabowski stated that Mr. Haas will have to inform the Commission if there are excess funds once the preliminary plat is submitted to the Park and Recreation Commission for a recommendation. HUPP SKETCH PLAN Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the Hupp sketch plan as being proposed by Bill Hupp. Mr. Haas explained that the current comprehensive plan and the comprehensive plan that is currently being worked on identifies a bikeway/walkway trail segment along the north side of Coon Creek. It appears at this point that a trail will be constructed along this segment to the west end of the parcel and most likely end up going across Coon Creek to the south side. Also, a trail on the west side of Hanson Boulevard NW between Coon Creek and Andover Boulevard NW may be necessary which will help users of the trail be able to get across a busy Hanson BoulevardNW. The developers will be responsible for 100% of the trail cost along the commercial parcels. A trail should be considered along Andover Boulevard NW west of Hanson Boulevard NW to the new street on the south side. A trail should also be considered from the cul-de-sac south to the proposed trail along the north side of Coon Creek to allow easy access. / Bill Hupp stated that he is a 20 year resident of the area and that his property is located at the intersection ofHarlson Boulevard and Andover Boulevard. Mr. Hupp reviewed the sketch plan and the proposed trails that would run on the east side of the property consistent with the trail plan. Mr. Hupp stated that he is proposing five acres of land in lieu of cash for park dedication. Commissioner Grabowski stated that he would like to walk the property before any decisions are made. Commissioner O'Toole stated that he would also like to view the property. Commissioner O'Toole suggested moving the trail more to the north side because there would be more homes to use the trail. Mr. Hupp stated that he is willing to place the trails anywhere that is acceptable to the Commission. The Commission discussed different options for the placement of the trails. Mr. Hupp noted that he has talked to a couple of his neighbors about possibly selling some of the property by the creek to them. Commissioner Holthus questioned if the neighbors have agreed to purchase the property or have they only talked about it at this point. Mr. Hupp stated that it has only been talked about. / () l) Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - June 17, 1999 Page 4 , ) Mr. Haas suggested talking to Mr. Hupp about placing an easement on the property before it would be sold to the neighbors. The Commission discussed the idea of a trail being placed east and west along Andover Boulevard, and the Commission did not feel that a trail would be necessary. Chairperson Blackstad stated that he thinks the sketch plan is a very good start. Commissioner O'Toole questioned if it would be possible to have a parking lot on the property. Mr. Hupp stated that he did not think so, but was not sure. Commissioner O'Toole stated that people who do not live on the creek would want to walk the trail and need a place to park without parking in front of other peoples houses. The Commission requested meeti.,g at the property before the next Park and Recreation Commission meeting. CONSIDER EXPANSION OF AAA BUILDING/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #1 Mr. Haas explained that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss the possibility of considering an expansion of the existing AAA building which is located behind / City Hall. Mr. Haas reviewed the current building and the proposed addition explaining that the minimum area needed for a men's and women's bathroom would be 21 feet by 21 feet. Chairperson Blackstad explained that the addition would be used for a storage facility initially until the WDE sight is developed and then the Andover Baseball Association (ABA) would have storage at the \\lDE site and the addition would then be converted into bathrooms. Dale Lang. Andover Baseball Association, stated that they could get enough volunteers to do the construction. Conunissioner Grabowski stated that Mr. Haas needs to find out if footings need to be used because the addition will eventually be converted into bathrooms. Chairperson Blackstad suggested having Mr. Haas talk to the building department to get started on the plans and have Mr. Lang put together a list of volunteers. Mr. Haas stated that he will get the needed information and bring it back to the Commission. DISCUSS PRAIRIE KNOLL PARK/PARKING / o U Regular Andover Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - June 17, 1999 Page 5 Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss Prairie Knoll Park and the parking problems that have existed the last few years as for parking on the street as requested by Gary Aas, who lives directly across the street from the park. Chairperson Blackstad stated that the Commission met at Prairie Knoll Park prior to the meeting and he agreed that the parking lot is too narrow and should be widened. Commissioner Grabowski suggested issuing a work order to Public Works to widen the lot to 60 feet. Commissioner O'Toole questioned how much time is left in the season. Mr. Haas stated about a month. Commissioner Grabowski stated that it wouldn't take much work to widen the parking lot, probably no more then a day. UPDATE OF 2000 PARK LAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET Mr. Haas explained that the 2000 park capital improvement budget was submitted to the fmance department ai1d are now waiting for the City Council budget meeting datc to be established. / DISCUSS HA WKRIDGE PARK WELV99-2 Mr. Haas stated that at the last meeting the Park and Recrcation Commission had requested the most current site plan that was reviewed. The Commission needs to determine what the park is going to consist of: soccer, baseball, softball or a combination. Mr. Haas stated that City Council approved including the alternate option for installation of the pump. Mr. Haas reviewed the location of the well, warming house, and septic area. Chairperson Blackstad questioned if it would be possible to get two soccer fields at the park if they were placed east to west. Mr. Haas stated that it is better to run the fields from north to south because of the sun, but explained that he could scale the sight to see if it would be possible. Commissioner Grabowski stated that one big soccer field that could be utilized as two small east and west fields would be the best alternative. Commissioner Grabowski stated that he didn't think there was a need to move the ball field anymore. Chairperson Blackstad agreed, but suggested increasing the size of the parking lot. Commissioner Grabowski stated that he thinks the parking lot holds a hundred cars and is more than adequate. Mr. Haas stated that he will verify how large the parking lot is. / Regular Andover parQd Recreation Commission Meeting () Minutes - June 17, 1999 Page 6 Commissioner O'Toole suggested moving the skating rink to make more room. Mr. Haas stated that it would be a large expense. Commissioner Grabowski also noted that it would cause a problem with the location of the wanning house. Mr. Haas stated that another hockey rink may need to be added. Commissioner Grabowski stated that there should be enough room to include another hockey rink without moving the field. UPDATE OF HIDDEN CREEK NORTH PARKING LOT Mr. Haas stated that at this point, City Staff is not recommending to consider the contractor that is reconstructing Bunker Lake Boulevard Northwest, noting that Staff would prefer that the construction be a separate contract on its own when they are ready to pave the parking lot. REVIEW ISSUES LIST Mr. Haas reviewed the items on the issues list. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT Chairperson Blackstad stated that he talked to Kevin Starr of Public Works to make sure signs were up at City Hall Park Complex #1; one for no pets and no golfmg. Commissioner Grabowski gave a suggestion for the new building at the WDE sight that he had seen at Vadnais Heights. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Anderson, seconded by O'Toole to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, N anci Libor, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. ,