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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 18, 1999 o o o CITY of ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 18,1999 MINUTES The Regular Bi-MontWy Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chaixperson Dave Blackstad on February 18, 1999, 7:35 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Commissioners absent: Also present: Dave Blackstad, Al Grabowski, and Dave O'Toole Tom Anderson, Brian Barringer, Jeff Kieffer, and Jim LindahL Park Coordinator, Todd Haas Others RESIDENTS FORUM No one was present to address the Residents Forum. APPROVAL OF MINUTES o Febrnary 4,1999 Motion by Grabowski, seconded by Barringer, to approve the Minutes as written. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW OFFER OF MARKET VALUE/CHESTERTON COMMONS 3RD ADDITION. Jerry Windschitl. President of Ashford Development, stated the appraiser has been unable to complete the work and now by City ordinance he has only 30 days remaining tofile the plats. Because of that, he used the appraisal from the property adjoining Chesterton Commons 3rd Addition to determine an appropriate evaluation and park dedication fee. Mr. Windschitl offered to pay a park dedication for Chesterton Commons 3rd Addition in the amount of $29,701 (Total acres in the plot=23.2496 x $12,775/acre=$297,014 total value, park dedication fee is 10% of the total valuation, or $29,701). Motion by Grabowski, seconded by O'Toole, to approve the offer of Ashford Development for payment of park dedication in the amount of $29,701 for Chesterton Commons 3rd Addition. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW OFFER OF MARKET VALUE/CHESTERTON COMMONS 4TH ADDITION. o Mr. Windschitl explained this property originally paid park dedication as residential property so the intent is to make up the difference from the residential park dedication rate versus the f -\ F , Regular Park and RecCJtion Commission Meeting Minutes - Febnlary 18, 1999 Page 2 u \ , } commercial park dedication rate. He explained he used the original appraisal for Hamilton Square, Mr. Watson's subsequent appraisal, and had conversations with a number of people in the appraisal business. Based on that, he detennined a comparison keying off the Hamilton Square appraisal which is recent, and then making a comparison and deducts to take into consideration the Chesterton Commons 4th Addition parcel. He reviewed his analysis which indicated the parcel is 5 acres or approximately 217,000 square feet (including the Hanson Boulevard right-of-way) Of the five acres, 1.91 acres are under a power line easement which does not allow for any structures, 154th Avenue divides the parcel, and previous park fees have been paid on the parcel at the rate of ten percent of the value, or $12,000 per acre. It also noted the adjoining Hamilton Square property with the same zoning classification was appraised at $.90 per square foot for land outside of the pond. Also, Hamilton Square is a corner location with access from two major County roadways and is substantially larger than the parcel in question. Mr. Windschitl stated the size of the parcel, location, and access from County roads are major considerations when detennining appraised value. He reviewed his calculation suggesting a land value per square foot of $.45, a total value of site equaling $97,650, park dedication fees (10% of total) equaling $9,765, and deducting the previously paid $6,000 which results in an amount due of$3,765. ., In response to Commissioner Grabowski, Mr. Windschitl stated he used the high number from Watson's appraisal of $.90 (which did not include the pond area but does include the square footage of the road right-of-way property). '- / Commissioner O'Toole asked if the pond was added to the Hamilton Square consideration at a later date. Mr. Haas stated the pond on the east end was not added. Commissioner O'Toole stated the Park and Recreation Commission had indicated the pond had to be added in. Mr. Haas stated that while this was the recommendation of the Park and Recreation Commission, it was not added. Chairperson Blackstad noted there are 135,000 buildable square feet which, based on $.90 per foot would equal a park dedication fee of $12,143. Mr. Windschitl stated he could live with that amount. Chairperson Blackstad stated his calculation considers the 3.1 buildable acres times $.90 per foot minus $6,000 which has already been paid. Motion by Grabowski, seconded by O'Toole, to approve park dedication for Chesterton Commons 4th Addition in the amount of$6,143. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW OFFER OF MARKET VALUE/CHESTERTON COMMONS NORTH. / The Commission noted the offer made by Ashford Development for Chesterton Commons North to pay park dedication fees in the amount of $28,463 (Total acres in the plot=22.28 x $12,775/acre=$284,627 total value, park dedication fee is 10% of the total valuation, or $28,463). It was noted that Jerry Windschitl, President of Ashford Development used the Regular Park and ReC100n Commission Meeting Minutes - February 18, 1999 Page 3 u ., , ) same amount per acre as was calculated In the February 17, 1999 Cambridge Estates appraisal report by the Allen Company. Motion by Grabowski, seconded by O'Toole, to approve the offer of Ashford Development for payment of park dedication for Chesterton Commons North in the amount of $28,463. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW OF APPRAISAVGREY OAKS. Mr. Haas reviewed the appraisal for Grey Oaks which estimated the market value at $1.5 million. He explained this is being presented for informational purposes. Mr. Windschitl stated he just received this information and has been able to review it in detail. DISCUSS ORDINANCE 10, SECTION 9.07/PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review and recommend proposed amendments to Ordinance 10, Section 9.07 to the Planning and Zoning Commission which will be holding a public hearing on February 23, 1999. F \ Mr. Windschitl suggested they consider whether this is a reasonable amount of money based on land values in Andover. He noted that six units per acre would project a land value of about $60,000 per acre. He stated that certain areas, such as Lake Minnetonka, may experience that type of land value, but not land in Andover. He noted that Plymouth is charging a park dedication fee of $1 ,500 per house. Two units per acre results in a land value of $30,000 per acre but the remaining land available in Plymouth is probably worth twice that amount. Mr. Windschitl suggested the Commission use the per unit method rather than a percentage method. ,--I Commissioner Grabowski agreed that the park dedication fee charged by the City of Piymouthis high. He noted the charges being used by several cities which have recently been updated and increased. He noted that Andover is the only city on the list that has not changed their method of calculation. Commissioner Grabowski pointed out that the fewer homes, the less burden on the park system. He noted that all of the cities listed use a per unit basis which he also supports. Chairperson Blackstad suggested since Rockford and Coon Rapids are significantly lower than the others, that they be removed from the average calculation. Mr. Haas stated he will ask the Planning Department to verify the information contained on the list. Commissioners Grabowski and O'Toole suggested the trail fee be highlighted on the chart to draw attention to it. , ,_ J Commissioner Grabowski noted the language on Page 5 and indication that it includes wetlands and open space. He asked what is defined as "designated open space." Mr. Haas stated that language was used by the City of Lakeville and designation of open space is Regular Park and Rec2tion Commission Meeting Minutes - February 18.1999 Page 4 u '\ '. ) becoming common in other cities. He noted the City of Blaine collects $1,300 with a portion of the fee going toward the purchase of open space. Commissioner Grabowski suggested that a defmition of these terms be included. Commissioner Grabowski suggested that sentence be reworded to end with the word "wetlands" and a new sentence be added to indicate: "Open space by developer is not applicable." Consensus was reached to make no other changes to the resolution as drafted. DISCUSS NEW WELL AT HA WKRIDGE PARK/99-2. Mr. Haas noted the preliminary cost estimate for the Hawkridge Park irrigation well and water system, Project 99-2. He stated he has not had an opportunity for a thorough review and would like to receive any Commission comments so they can be addressed at the next meeting. Commissioner O'Toole asked staff to calculate the cost of the well if the Fire Department was not going to use it. Mr. Haas stated he will request that information. , REVIEW REVISED SITE PLANIW/LD IRIS PARK. ,/ Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the revised site plan for Wild Iris Park based on recommendations from the last meeting. Commissioner O'Toole suggested a cost sharing situation if this parking lot is used by the Park 'N Ride. Following review and discussion, the Commission indicated support of the revised site plan fur Wild Iris Park. REVIEW REVISED SITE PLAN/ROSE PARK. Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the revised site plan for Rose Park based on recommendations from the last meeting. He noted the relocation of the shelter away from the ballfield and parking lot to an area that is more private. In consideration of fly balls, Chairman Blackstad asked if the ballfield and shelter should be "flip flopped." Commissioner Grabowski stated he likes the basketball court but it has a light and will encourage night time use which may be an annoyance to near by residents. Mr. Haas suggested the light be relocated to the area of the playground. Commissioner '. Grabowski stated it could also be relocated to the parking lot. , ./ Regular Park and Red-_'tion Commission Meeting Minutes - February 18,1999 Page 5 u ; , J REVIEW SITE PLAN/PARCEL SOUTH OF WDE SITE/99-7. Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the site plan for the parcel south of the WDE site, Project 99-2, that is being recommended by the Andover Review Committee. He reviewed a topographic map of the area, pointing out the location of a sledding hill, ball fields, skating rinks, and concession stand. It was noted that if the recreational area is shifted to the west, it frees up more space along Hanson Boulevard for development and provides additional parking area. Following discussion, consensus was reached to direct staff to revise the site plan to shift the recreational area to the west, add an additional ballfield, relocate the road access, and overlay a potential hockey arena. If the sledding hill is relocated to the west, the Commission suggested staff research whether there will be an impact from drainage into the wetland. The Commissioners indicated they would like to review the revised site plan prior to Council consideration. REVIEW SITE PLAN/TRAILS AT SUNSHINE PARK/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #1. , J Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the site plan and associated costs for the trails at Sunshine Park/City Hall Park Complex #1. He presented a site plan of Sunshine Park, noting the location of existing trails, proposal to make it handicapped accessible, and add bleacher pads. Mr. Haas reviewed the cost estimates for several potential projects and advised that $8,000 is available from CDBG which must be spent by June 30th plus there is a carry over of about $7,500 for the bleachers. Commissioner Grabowski stated he understands the need to address this transportation issue but questions why it would be a priority for the Park and Recreation Commission. He suggested the City Council be asked to consider whether they should resolve this transportation issue. Mr. Haas noted the trail will also provide access from the parking lot to the ballpark area. Following discussion, consensus was reached to request a base bid for the bleachers and pad, a trail from the parking lot wrapping around Field #5, an option for a trail to the other side of the parking lot, and alternate bids for a trail from Field #2 across the soccer field as Alternate 1; and an eight foot asphalt trail along Tower Drive as Alternate 2. Mr. Haas stated staffwill look at the topography and determine the best location for the trail. It was noted that the west side of the soccer field may be better. Consensus was reached to direct staff to proceed with obtaining plans and specifications for the site plan for Sunshine Park/City Hall Park Complex # 1, as discussed. / Regular Park and Re()tion Commission Meeting Minutes - February 18,1999 Page 6 u Commissioner O'Toole commented on the need to complete the parking lot. Mr. Haas stated it may be a spring of 2000 project. Commissioner Grabowski suggested it be bid out during the winter months. REVIEW APPROVAL OF QUOTES/BLEACHERS/99-6 Mr. Haas recommended the Park and Recreation Commission table consideration of bleacher quotes to the next meeting to allow staff time to research Code requirements. He explained an inspection of the bleachers will be conducted by the Building Department. Consensus was reached to table further consideration of bleacher quotes, Project 99-6, to the March 4,1999 meeting. RECEIVE APPLICATION/ADOPT-A-PARK/ANDOVER WOMEN OF TODAY. Mr. Haas explained that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review and approve the Adopt-A-Park application by the Andover Women of Today for Terrace Park/Andover Lions Park. He indicated they want to adopt both parks. ; '" With regard to liability insurance claims by volunteers, Commissioner Grabowski suggested it be detennined by the City Council whether power tools will be allowed or will not be allowed, and then that policy be established across-the-board. He also suggested additional infonnation be requested on what injury claims would be covered along with examples being cited. \. _/ Commissioner Grabowski stated that while he supported starting the Adopt-A-Park Program, he did not think that would include demolition. He speculated that a legal issue may arise if an injury occurs and an attorney believes cutting down a tree involves demolition. Mr. Haas advised that Public Works also requires them to sign a release. Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Grabowski, to approve the Adopt-A-Park application by the Andover Women of Today for Terrace Park/Andover Lions Park. Motion carried unanimously. UPDATE OF STATUS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONT. Mr. Haas infonned the Park and Recreation Commission that the City has been granted an extension for Comprehensive Plan completion until March 31, 1999. Items to be addressed include prioritizing park and open space improvements as indicated in the Parks Capital Improvement Plan, and completion of the sewer and housing plans. Once these issues are addressed, the Plan can be brought before the City Council and Metropolitan Council for fmal approval. R l P k dR ( ). c .. AI . egu ar ar an ecreatlOn ommlSSlOn meetmg Minutes -February 18,1999 Page 7 u , DISCUSS AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT IN REGARD TO COMP TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR BIKEWAYIWALKWAY TRAILS. Mr. Haas explained that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing amending the development contract in regard to requiring developers to pay more than 50% of a bikeway/walkway trail if it is shown on the comprehensive transportation system. He explained that the City Engineer will recommend to the Council to not allocate MSA money to the trail as this reduces the City's ability to pave MSA streets. Commissioner Grabowski stated that defmitions of terms such as "corridor," "county roads," and "MSA roads" needs to be included in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Haas stated the Council would need to amend the development policy to state responsibility if locating a trail along the corridor. Mr. Haas advised that the corridors are already included in the Comprehensive Plan. Motion by O'Toole, seconded by Grabowski, to recommend that trails along corridors along existing developments be considered a transportation issue and paid I 00% by the developer and interior recreational trails be funded 50%/50%. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW ISSUES LIST . , Consensus was reached to delete the Joint Meeting with the City Council, the Transportation System/Bikeway-Walkway Trails, and Site Plans for Rose, Wild Iris, and Terrace. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT Commissioner Grabowski updated the Commission regarding maintenance of ball fields. There was no other business to come before the Andover Park and Recreation Commission. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Grabowski, seconded by O'Toole, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 9:37 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Carla Wirth, Recording Secretary TimeSaver OjJSite Secretarial. Inc.